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Title: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: charlest on February 15, 2004, 11:35:34 PM
Having seen far too many disagreements over the makeup of the original Inferno's coverstock, I decided to write to Brunswick and let them give us the facts. To my query,
"Is this ball a pearl or a solid resin (or a combination)?"

Mr. Tom Tomaras, "Senior Trainer /Technical Engineer, Brunswick" sent this answer:

"it has Black Pearl and Orange Pearl mixed ... "

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Edited on 2/17/2004 1:20 PM
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: WiscBowler on February 16, 2004, 02:40:50 PM
That's a brilliant answer...
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: TECH SUPPORT on February 16, 2004, 02:55:10 PM
Ok so its a combination. Solid and a pearl. I dont care what its made out of because I like the ball regardless.
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Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: TTforshort on February 16, 2004, 05:57:15 PM
...so back to the original question. Is it a solid, pearl or combination?

My Inferno has predominately black and orange. So if they are both pearl,there is very little solid, reactive resin in the cover.

I would call it a pearl with a little solid.

....back to the original question....

TT
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Edited on 2/16/2004 6:56 PM
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: DON DRAPER on February 16, 2004, 10:50:14 PM
for years i've noticed that brunswicks pearl balls don't have the glittery specks and flecks that other companies balls have. technicaly these are mica chips of the dust variety. yet, you can have a pearl ball without mica. brunswick tells me the inferno is a pearl ball----so be it. i call the inferno "great".
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: HamPster on February 16, 2004, 10:55:09 PM
Lol, yeah Clemson.  Black pearl and Orange pearl would not make a solid/pearl . . .
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Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: BowlersAidProShop-Wells on February 17, 2004, 12:12:56 AM
My understanding is that the components used for the Brunswick Covers are not susceptible to attributes found in other companies "pearlization".  The R&D from Brunswick I'm guessing is basically saying pearl or not, the cover is going to read the same. Pearlizing their reactive or particle shells doesnt affect the characteristics of the balls roll. So, it may very well be a pearl, just in a different sense of the word when comparing it to other products on the market.  Then again, I could just have no clue what I'm talking about :0
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on February 17, 2004, 12:47:01 AM
The Inferno IS a PEARL.  The Ultimate Inferno is just the SOLID version of the original.  Why is there confusion on this may I ask?
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Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: agroves on February 17, 2004, 12:59:48 AM
I believe the Inferno to be a pearl.  The ultimate is a solid.  

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Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: charlest on February 17, 2004, 11:33:55 AM
I am not sure from some of the comments I see here that you are reading the same 5 words that I am reading: "black pearl and orange pearl". In the English classes I attended, that is equivalent, no, identical to saying "black and orange pearl". So the two coverstock materials which the Brunswick advertising (webpage) says are "Fire and Smoke" are orange and black and they are both pearlized materials, "pearl". Nowhere does the word "solid" show up. The "combination" is a combination of two colors as opposed to a single color pearl.

I do not understand why some people need to put some kind of "spin", some kind alternative translation upon these words. Is it so hard to understand that this is a 100% Brunswick pearl?
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Edited on 2/17/2004 12:30 PM
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: Jeffrevs on February 17, 2004, 11:42:59 AM
I hadn't seen any ORIGINAL Inferno questions, it was the Raging that was the questionable one......and that is a particle pearl....but I don't recall seeing confusion on the original.......

However, the answer you got from Brunswick is ridiculous...because he didn't read your question!
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Edited on 2/17/2004 12:45 PM
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: charlest on February 17, 2004, 12:15:11 PM
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I hadn't seen any ORIGINAL Inferno questions, it was the Raging that was the questionable one......and that is a particle pearl....but I don't recall seeing confusion on the original.......
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Jeff,

While there has been discussion about the Raging, there is much confusion and misinformation floating around about the original Inferno. In one thread someone made fun of me for daring to disagree with him that the Inferno was a solid. Many others have indicated the same thing. Indeed, read all the above replies befoe yours; several are twisting Mr. Tomaras's reply around to suit their own feelings about the ball, despite his explicit statement that it has two colors and both are pearlized formulations.

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Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: T-GOD on February 17, 2004, 02:13:58 PM
My vote is that it's a 2 color pearl resin..!! =:^D
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: no1bucsfan on February 17, 2004, 02:36:32 PM
Who cares, it rolls beautiful, has a solid hit, and is very versatile. I could care less if it's a friggin plastic shell on it. I love it!!!
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Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: kendog on February 17, 2004, 02:38:50 PM
can you say cranial rectimitus?
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Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: da Shiv on February 17, 2004, 02:52:45 PM
I've been off this site for a few days, so I'm late to this discussion, but here's my two cents.

I didn't know there was any controversy about the Inferno's coverstock makeup, but I haven't necessarily made a point of reading Inferno posts either.  I have two Infernos and I've seen many, and they all look very clearly like two toned pearls to me--with each part looking pearlized.  In fact, the Inferno looks much more clearly pearlized to me than some other balls that are designated as pearls--the Pro Purple Buzzsaw and the Power Diesel, to name two.  If the presence of some sparkly stuff somewhere (whether mica or PET or something else) makes a ball a pearl, then such balls as the old Triton Elite and the Sky Bolt would have to be called pearls.  In the case of the Inferno, the whole ball looks clearly pearlized to me.

The part of this discussion that interested me most was the part about the Inferno being orange and black.  All the ones I've seen are orange and brown.  The darkest part of the brown swirl looks almost black; and that dark part usually doesn't look very pearly, so maybe that's where this controversy comes from.

By the way, with reference to the Pro Purple and the Power Diesel; I don't want to start another controversy.  I have a Pro Purple and I can see that it has mica or something in it, but it is uniformly distributed and doesn't have that misty swirl to it that I usually associate with pearls.  I've only seen one Power Diesel, and it absolutely looked like a solid.  It even ships with a 1000 grit sanded surface--very unusual for a "pearl."  

Shiv

P.S.  I'd like to say that I'm a member of the Inferno fan club.  I think it's a great ball and I hope Brunswick leaves it in the line for awhile.  Bob Hanson has posted that the Inferno has a unique type of move all it's own and I agree with that.  I don't know about subsequent Infernos, but the original is a real keeper.

Listening to the monotonous staccato of rain on my desk top

Edited on 2/17/2004 3:52 PM
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: Phillip Marlowe on February 17, 2004, 03:15:18 PM
Excuse me, why is there a continuing controversy?  It's a pearl.  Brunswick says so.  The Brunswick rep. obviously thinks the answer is so obvious and the issue so stupid he sends back a serious answer phrased in such a way as to make fun of the other side.  Why are there all these answers to this thread.  Have I just entered ...  Oh, excuse me, I have to go follow a large white rabbit who is muttering something about a "Mad Hatter".
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Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: LuckyLefty on February 17, 2004, 03:39:57 PM
I am amazed that people would think that Tom Tomaras of Brunswick would not no what colors his people are adding to their balls in THEIR factories.

And one could no more state the facts more completely than the words,
Orange and black pearl"

Not orange and black almost pearl, but maybe let's call it a solid in Arkansas.

"ORANGE and BLACK PEARL".

As George Bush the 1st so eloquently said,
"Read my lips".

I sometimes have to say that to my children!  But they are not quite 5.

REgards,

Luckylefty
Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: da Shiv on February 17, 2004, 03:57:12 PM
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Excuse me, why is there a continuing controversy?


I dunno.

 
quote:
Why are there all these answers to this thread.


Because it's so weird.

 
quote:
 ... Oh, excuse me, I have to go follow a large white rabbit who is muttering something about a "Mad Hatter".


Well, I'm off...but just a bit and it don't hardly show.

Shiv
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Title: Re: Inferno coverstock controversy?
Post by: charlest on February 17, 2004, 04:21:37 PM
Thank you all for your interest. I posted this as verified information for all to see. I will be locking this so as not to "foment an insurrection".
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