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earlyrolling

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Layout Jargon for Brunswick Fearless
« on: October 11, 2018, 05:49:13 PM »
So with regard to layouts on the Brunswick Fearless, is there such a thing still as Pin-to-PAP distance?  Or is it now called DOT-to-PAP distance?
I am thinking of the middle # in a dual angle layout (such as 65x4x30).

References:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkLQRwsgSDo
http://brunswickbowling.com/products/dot

 

tkkshop

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Re: Layout Jargon for Brunswick Fearless
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2018, 06:06:27 AM »
Exactly Ignite, Brunswick has already switched the plastics over before the Dot tech was finalized. From a shop standpoint, not having to worry about adjusting layouts for pin placement near holes will be great, for customers its hard to argue a 4 year warranty on anything now days!
does the warranty cover ball death? That would be my main concern as opposed to cracking.

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Re: Layout Jargon for Brunswick Fearless
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2018, 01:49:26 PM »
Warranties have *NEVER* been for ball reaction, only "durability" (cracking).

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Re: Layout Jargon for Brunswick Fearless
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2018, 01:54:20 PM »
Just wonder if that covers having lifts and slugs in the ball.Had that crap pulled on me before.They said was not covered if you had lifts and slug in the ball. >:(

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Re: Layout Jargon for Brunswick Fearless
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2018, 04:45:12 PM »
Warranties have *NEVER* been for ball reaction, only "durability" (cracking).
exactly. I've never pulled a 4 year old ball out to have it crack and think, "I hope the manufacturer warranties this." I have had balls puke after 50 games though. Let's hope the quality of the release is higher in terms of coverstock durability.

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Re: Layout Jargon for Brunswick Fearless
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2018, 09:59:01 AM »
Exactly Ignite, Brunswick has already switched the plastics over before the Dot tech was finalized. From a shop standpoint, not having to worry about adjusting layouts for pin placement near holes will be great, for customers its hard to argue a 4 year warranty on anything now days!

No switch over,  this has been done for a while. My Ebonite Maxim is the same way.
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Re: Layout Jargon for Brunswick Fearless
« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2018, 03:13:54 PM »
Plastics have been "Pinned" on the bottom for close to 20 years now. At least 15 minimum.

Matt C

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Re: Layout Jargon for Brunswick Fearless
« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2018, 01:24:28 PM »
Anyone else think it's a bad idea to put such a "groundbreaking" design into such a silly looking ball? We all know color schemes don't matter, but solid, symmetric, and ugly?..... Unless this gets some huge visibility on tour to spark some Sunday/Monday impulse buys, I can see the Fearless in the closeout section by Spring.



I got to throw the Fearless Wends at a Demo day.. The ball rolls amazingly well.. I would suggest you try it.   Some people have no issues with goofy colors as long as they produce results.
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Re: Layout Jargon for Brunswick Fearless
« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2018, 01:44:54 PM »
This DOT Technology isn't really something that is unheard of.  Back in the late 90's there were several occasions where my PSO would receive a shipment of Bonanza 300 blems/2nd quality balls [EBI blems].  Many times the pins were so far out, they were almost on the back of the ball.  To lay them out, the PSO would measure and draw a new pin on the exact opposite side of the ball from the actual pin.  Then layout the ball based on that newly drawn pin.  Sure, the core was basically upside down at that point.  However with the symmetrical cores back in the late 90's it made virtually no difference in ball reaction.  I had several great rolling and hitting Bonanza 300 balls (Boss Titanium, Nitro/R2 Pearl, Track Triton Coral, etc].  None ever cracked in the bridge or anywhere else on the ball.

The only difference between the Bonanza balls and the DOT Technology is that the pin is marking the actual bottom of the core, and the DOT shows the real top of the core.  If this proves to dramatically reduce cracking I imagine the other manufacturers will follow suit or develop their own unique versions of pouring and marking a ball like this.