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agroves

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Local Pro shop drops....
« on: October 02, 2006, 05:51:14 PM »
Brunswick from the shelves.  He'll still order what you want, but they are gone off the shelves.  Why?  Well, a variety of reasons, from my understanding.  What he said to me, was a rep from Storm and Ebonite have stopped by numerous times over the years, never has a bwick rep stopped in.  

Secondly, something regarding the equipment installed in this center when it was built, which was 5ish years ago..I think.  I didn't get the whole story.

Finally, the move to mexico was a factor too.  However, it isn't the move to mexico exactly.  It has to do more with the fact Bwick moved to mexico, where there is cheaper labor, but apparently HIS cost on balls has gone up.  Why???

As a brunswick fan, I will certainly stay on board, but I am sad to see this happen.  It looks like Ebonite is taking the shelf space now.  

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Re: Local Pro shop drops....
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2006, 08:52:39 AM »
Bwick is done.  As soon as a company uses cheap labour and then passes the price over to the consumer it really leaves a bitter taste in the one's mouth.  I think its simply because bowling has always been associated with american made products.  Move to mexico and this is what happens.  It is a retaliation of sorts.  

Honestly Bwick is done anyhow since they are selling smaller centers nationwide and building these massive family centers.  Charge arm and legs for services and equipment.  Go figure everyone is dropping them
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Re: Local Pro shop drops....
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2006, 10:01:19 AM »
Just my .02 worth.

Many customers will feel that it is the Pro Shops that are ripping them off when the ball company states that the reason for moving out of country is to cut costs in making balls, and then immediately raises the prices on said balls.  Customers do not deal w/ the distr. or Big B when they buy a ball, they don't believe the Pro Shop is paying more, so they assume the Pro Shop is the reason for higher price.

While not a Pro Shop owner, I think that the Pro Shop owners would welcome the company reps visiting their establishments.  If anything, it shows them that the ball makers care about the end sellers of their product lines.  It gives them a sounding board with the Corp. about any issues they may have with the equiptment.
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NateNice

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Re: Local Pro shop drops....
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2006, 11:12:55 AM »
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Bwick is done.  As soon as a company uses cheap labour and then passes the price over to the consumer it really leaves a bitter taste in the one's mouth.


Because your clothes, shoes, computer and keyboard you're typing on wern't made by cheap over seas labor?.....

Dude, it's not 1985 anymore.  We've accepted the face America isn't much of a manufacturing powerhouse anymore.

Why did Brunswick move to Mexico?  To save money on making balls and thus create more PROFIT.  The thousands of share holders benefit from this.  Companies have been doing this for years and years and it's been very successful.  Brunswick did this because it will make the company more money.  Some of which will be invested into R&D.
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Re: Local Pro shop drops....
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2006, 02:16:04 PM »
See there is the problem NateNice some things like
electronics, shoes, etc most people do not have a choice
but we are talking bowling balls and there are still
some great companies that produce bowling balls in the U.S.A.
That does give us a choice.
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NateNice

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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2006, 02:37:11 PM »
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See there is the problem NateNice some things like
electronics, shoes, etc most people do not have a choice
but we are talking bowling balls and there are still
some great companies that produce bowling balls in the U.S.A.
That does give us a choice.
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Why am I supposed to care where it's made?  I care about the ball.  So far the ball seems just as good as the ball was when it was made here.

I'm happy for all the Brunswick shareholders who now own a more profitable company.

I'm happy for our friends in Mexico who have been gainfully employed by Brunswick so they can support their families.

I'm sure with all the opportunities available in the USA, the displaced workers surely found new work.  The certinly are very skilled workers, right?

I don't drive American cars, but I have the choice to.  What's wrong with that?  American cars are garbage, so I buy European and Japanese cars.

Brunswick make a great bowling ball so I'm buying them so long as they are great, regardless of where they are made.

Who cares where something is made?

"Made in the USA" is meaningless for the most part now days.  It lends nothing to quality as it once did.
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Re: Local Pro shop drops....
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2006, 02:44:22 PM »
There product didnt match up with me when they where an american company imo so i am not going to try them now either.
I do have to say others in our center still enjoy brunswick and say they will continue supporting them
I dont see brunswick losing anything in this move lots of peeps are to loyal to brunswick
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« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2006, 02:46:38 PM »
The price on Brunswick balls form our distributor (Ace Mitchell) has gone up, but so has the new lines of Storm balls.  I think it's more of a market thing, not just the move down south.
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NateNice

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« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2006, 03:12:57 PM »
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I'd take a look at his distributor for why prices are going up. The shop I go to has not raised his prices since the distributor is giving him good deals and not ripping him off.


You can look at distributors all you want, but Brunswick did raise their prices. And it is a good thing they did it. No one is ripping anyone off. Look at Storm and Roto-Grip. Companies need to make more money off of equipment, everyone will be paying Lane#1 prices for a Brunswick ball within a few years.
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Except for Lane#1 balls will then cost even more.  It's called inflation.  Generally, things go up around 4% or so every year.

Brunswick balls have gone up in price because nearly everything in AMerica goes up in price.  Except gasoline lately, which is kind of nice...let's see how long that lasts.
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Re: Local Pro shop drops....
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2006, 03:43:55 PM »
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I'd take a look at his distributor for why prices are going up. The shop I go to has not raised his prices since the distributor is giving him good deals and not ripping him off.


You can look at distributors all you want, but Brunswick did raise their prices. And it is a good thing they did it. No one is ripping anyone off. Look at Storm and Roto-Grip. Companies need to make more money off of equipment, everyone will be paying Lane#1 prices for a Brunswick ball within a few years.
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Except for Lane#1 balls will then cost even more.  It's called inflation.  Generally, things go up around 4% or so every year.

Brunswick balls have gone up in price because nearly everything in AMerica goes up in price.  Except gasoline lately, which is kind of nice...let's see how long that lasts.


hummmm lane #1 is the only one who has not raised prices, I have seen the distributor list here in my area, and every ball they carry went up, some of the newer storm high line balls are currently more at MSRP then all of the lane #1 stuff.
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Re: Local Pro shop drops....
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2006, 03:49:56 PM »
Has anyone gotten any balls from Mexico yet if so any problems it doesn't matter to me I don't use Brunswick anymore I switched to Roto Grip a month ago nothing to do with their move but I am truly satisfied great equipment great prices equal happy customer
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Re: Local Pro shop drops....
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2006, 06:44:01 PM »
folks,

Get real FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE!

check the price of basics since 1970 (I was going to say, 1950)
Bread, gas, milk, clothes, meat, cars.
Then check the price of bowling balls and a game of bowling.
I think you will be shocked to your the soles of your feet with the relative price of life in these here United States.

I'm not going to quote you the prices; check for yourselves. I'd guess we should be paying about $500 for a bowling ball and about $10 for eachgame we throw.

Now tell me your whining and complaining!
Rather tell it to that guy/woman in the mirrir!
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Re: Local Pro shop drops....
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2006, 12:34:19 PM »
Well NateNice you don't have to care where things are made
you just keep driving your European cars and buying you Mexican
made bowling balls. To spell it out for you it is all about the
American economy. This problem with companies moving out of America
is that it is just not manufacturing jobs but also affects the medical,
as well as many other segments of the working economy, losing good
paying American jobs to other countries will affect all of America. Working
for minimun wage will not support the American economy much less pay for
your bowling night out when you lose your job to overseas workers.

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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2006, 06:16:00 PM »
You know Brunswick is not just selling all its products to the american market place. Do u people actually realize how popular bowling is worldwide and how many balls brunswicks sells in the international market outside the States. I would bet its more than the american market. The world of bowling no longer revolves around Americia how many million members have your associations lost over the last few decades? Bowling is now an international sport and Brunswick must do what ever it takes to supply their products as competitively priced as they can to maximize sales. Not just in Americia but also worldwide.
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