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crankncrash

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comparable to an x-zone te1
« on: October 26, 2004, 04:20:51 PM »
I want a ball that will be similar to the x-zone te1, I had one, threw it great, and had a the most success with it that i had with any ball... then i fell into the lane 1 trap and sold it. Now i want another one! for those of you that dont remember.. pk18 pearl on one of the rhino cores... any help would be great

 

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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2004, 12:42:42 AM »
IIRC, the TE 1 was re-released as the Monster SmashR (and the TE 2 re-released as the Monster ScreamR).  PK 18 over a Command Zone Arc core.  However, I could be wrong about this...
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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2004, 06:00:57 AM »
From our own website here:

"The ZoneX Tour Editions are low RG, low differential RG reactive cover stock balls designed to provide increased mid-lane roll when compared to higher RG reactive cover stock balls. The TE1 uses PowrKoil 18 reactive cover stock for aggressive response to dry areas of the lane. The TE2 uses N'Control PowerStock reactive cover stock for a more moderate response to dry areas of the lane. The specifications of the Zone X TE1 (Yellow Pin) are: Part Number 60-103419; Cover stock: PowerKoil18 Reactive; RG Max: 2.546; RG Min: 2.514; RG Diff.: 0.032; RG Avg: 1.9; Hardness: 75-77; Color: Mega Blue Pearl; Surface Finish: Factory Polished; Weights: 15-16 lbs. The specifications of the Zone X TE1 (Orange Pin) are: Part Number 60-103420; Cover stock: N'Control PowerStock Reactive; RG Max: 2.546; RG Min: 2.514; RG Diff.: 0.032; RG Avg: 1.9; Hardness: 77-79; Color: Mega Blue Pearl Surface Finish: Factory Polished; Weights: 15-16 lbs."


I know the TE2 did become the ScreamR.

The TE1 core's specs are RG: 2.514-2.546, RG Diff: .032
I'd guess the core was the same as the TE2 and the ScreamR's, since the specs are identical.

Dusty, I think the RG Diff of the TE1 is much less than the SmashR's diff.
SmashR - RG: 2.536-2.577. Diff =.041

I don't believe the TE1 was ever released as named ball, but I could be wrong.
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crankncrash

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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2004, 03:55:43 PM »
i don't think it has been... but i would buy 3 if they were!

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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2004, 03:26:08 PM »
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The TE1 core's specs are RG: 2.514-2.546, RG Diff: .032
I'd guess the core was the same as the TE2 and the ScreamR's, since the specs are identical.

Dusty, I think the RG Diff of the TE1 is much less than the SmashR's diff.
SmashR - RG: 2.536-2.577. Diff =.041

I don't believe the TE1 was ever released as named ball, but I could be wrong.


I remember having seen those specs, both on this site and in literature at the pro shop, so I didn't really think so either.  However, more than a few pro shop operators that I knew at the time said that these specs were incorrect, and that the TE 1 actually used the CZA core.

Anyone out there with a TE1 who would be willing to X-ray it for us?    
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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2004, 07:00:06 PM »
I don't remember the place or where but if I remember right both balls were based on the Teal Rhino weightblock.  TE1 was polished PK 18 and TE 2 was same core and ncontrol powerstock pearl and  became the monster scream/r.

I am almost sure that the
Walter Ray though a different coverstock is same core and specs as TE1.  Let me tell you with that core and PowerSurge 15 it is enough ball!  Great backend.

I've got ONE!

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http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=1207 = scream/r = TE2 and TE1 core.
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=592 = walter ray = a little higher rg
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=99 = rhino pro same specs but weightblock reversed!



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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2004, 12:56:20 PM »
hmm I happen to know where there is an MVP on the rack!  I can get that one real cheap... must get it!

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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2004, 12:51:54 AM »
NOte starting RG on the Walter is higher than the TE1.

But I've found it to handle medium well.  I have mine drilled strong with a strong weighthole.  Actually handled more condition than my polished Time Zone did!

To start the Walter Earlier obviously more surface works or a drilling with pin and cg shifted down a tad would give a very similar roll!

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PS I never saw TE1 on lanes but obviously did see a lot of scream'rs.
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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2004, 12:54:14 AM »
NOte starting RG on the Walter is higher than the TE1.

But I've found it to handle medium well.  I have mine drilled strong with a strong weighthole.  Actually handled more condition than my polished Time Zone did!

To start the Walter Earlier obviously more surface works or a drilling with pin and cg shifted down a tad would give a very similar roll!

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Lcukylefty
PS I never saw TE1 on lanes but obviously did see a lot of scream'rs.
PPPPS Another ball with similar core specs is the Pirahna Retro.  Low rg like TE1 and similar diff.  But obviously it's not Brunswick.  I have one but have not been able to compare to Sir Walter!


Edited on 10/31/2004 0:55 AM
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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2004, 01:44:26 AM »
The core specs on the TE1 and the fact that you said it's a pearl PK18 makes it sound identical to a Fire Quantum, IMHO

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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2004, 03:46:17 AM »
The Rhino Pro X or one of the RevolutionIZE's sound around the mark, unless your Nick Smith i'd imagine finding a good one would be a bit of a battle though!
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Re: comparable to an x-zone te1
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2004, 12:08:07 PM »
i know! where does he come up with this stuff?