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Equipment Boards => Brunswick => Topic started by: Aud300 on December 31, 2012, 03:43:23 PM
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O.k. Brunswick Heads, I am in a pickle. I currently have a Motiv Arsenal and I am trying to build a Brunswick Arsenal for a couple of upcoming tourneys. I currently own a Nexus Pink and Blue and a Wild Thing. I am looking for something which corners a little stronger than my Nexus. Looking at numbers and ball reviews I have narrowed it down to a Hell Raiser Revenge ( Currently in stock in my shop ), C - System maxxed -out and Nexxus F(P+R). I also have a Too Reckless but it's currently being sold because it so squirty to throw on anything here. Any Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Aura. Doesn't get more continous than this ball
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Aura. Doesn't get more continous than this ball
The shop has drilled two so far and for what our house is doing, the aura wiggled after the first game and had to be put up. One was layed out 5 1/2 X 4 1/2 to his PAP and it was taken to 2000 dull. The player is a power tweener and it was great for one game.
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Some added info for this conversation, The house the shop is in 10 years AMF HPL's with a 42' modified house pattern and massive Carrydown. So, That's why I haven't mentioned the Aura.
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One of the mistakes many are making with the Aura is drilling it too weak...
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Actually it was the customer's favorite layout. And most of the centers in San Antonio don't have fresh,popping back ends like most of you guys bowl on. There's a reason I picked the balls I mentioned. I really am looking for something the when it comes off the spot in the midlane, that it's goes sideways. I can always control my hand.
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Actually it was the customer's favorite layout. And most of the centers in San Antonio don't have fresh,popping back ends like most of you guys bowl on. There's a reason I picked the balls I mentioned. I really am looking for something the when it comes off the spot in the midlane, that it's goes sideways. I can always control my hand.
Favorite layout or not... the Aura can be drilled stronger than that and would result in a less condition specific piece.
I went to the Aura/Meanstreak seminar and we were told that because of the additives in these balls (and the higher RG core in the Meanstreak) that many tour players were finding success with stronger layouts than they were accustomed to using.
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Interesting to find that out since I never got to go to the seminar. I noticed the Brunswick guys are REALLY,REALLY high the Aura. But for the ball videos, I have it stuck in my head that the Hell Raiser Revenge looks stronger overall.
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Get a Ultimax. They are cheap on closeout and they hoooooook.
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The Hellraiser Revenge would probably handle more oil at factory surface, HOWEVER, the Aura takes to surface changes well, and I agree that it should be drilled strong!
I remember from our initial conference call that some on tour had even tried it as dull as 500 and it still looked good.
I have drilled several Revenges and they seem to handle good volume, so it's a tough choice. I think you should buy them BOTH ;).
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The Hellraiser Revenge would probably handle more oil at factory surface, HOWEVER, the Aura takes to surface changes well, and I agree that it should be drilled strong!
I remember from our initial conference call that some on tour had even tried it as dull as 500 and it still looked good.
I have drilled several Revenges and they seem to handle good volume, so it's a tough choice. I think you should buy them BOTH ;).
Thanks Not clay, I been waiting for you or BrunsNick to come on here. I bowl at a crap center and I need some to just run over the lanes.
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I think you might be surprised at the Versa Max. Even with a large volume of oil, still one of the most continuous balls I've thrown. Touch the cover 4000 play a little straighter and you wont have any prob with this ball finishing.
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Also not sure how long you can wait but Brunswick is coming out with another coverstock they are calling a Bleeder coverstock and it's suppose to be the latest and greatest.
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You can't go wrong with the choices you have picked. I would suggest doing a Nexxxus P+R. It is a pearl but don't let that full ya. Still very strong. Aslo, the Aura continues great but have to agree with the sronger layout. I have a higher rev rate and actually slightly rev dominant. I still drilled the Aura stronger than any other Brunswick to date. Had no problem with the ball getting though and cornering plenty hard.
DV8 also has a new one coming out called the Brutal Nightmare and from the videos looks like it has alot of pop downlane.
There will be new releases from Brunswick and that info will be released shortly.
Good luck with your choice, you can't go wrong with any one of those.
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Thanks Adam. Since my ball speed (too fast) doesn't match my roll ( On the side) I tend to overshoot longer patterns (I.e) my 43 foot house shot especially when the carrydown starts. Thanks for the input
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I would tell you to look at, as someone else said either an ulti max or a nexxxus. Triple x is the closest thing to a hybrid ball without calling it a hybrid. It will start earlier than the nexus pearl or the ulti max and has the cornering ability I think you are looking for.
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Wait until Motiv brings out their silver/white skid-flippy ball early Feb.. You are giving up too fast Audric. Take it to P4000 fight the carry down-move in and wheel it slightly.
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Scotts33, PM Sent.
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As others have stated the Aura and the Nexxxus would be the best choices. Both balls are both strong and handle some oil. The Nexxxus is a little stronger change of direction downlane while the Aura is more of that continuous shape your looking for. Modern "carrydown" can often times be the lane oil being absorbed by bowling balls going down the lane and not the strips of oil bowlers used to see in the past. That being said even with more speed dominant players a ball that is cleaner down lane and responds faster to friction works better. The unique thing about the Aura and Nexxxus pieces is that they are clean through the front part of the lane but pick up quicker at the breakpoint than bowling balls did in the past making them ideal choices for bowlers with higher ball speed to rev ratios. I would tend to agree with Adam that based on the surface you bowl on and your situation I like the Nexxxus a little better than the Aura. The Nexxxus also takes surface changes very well and with 500 on it can handle a bunch of oil if necessary.
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Look, I am going to keep my Too reckless and make a surface change. Also after This weekend's tourney, I will make a ball choice . Thanks for the input.