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Title: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: timisu87 on June 19, 2007, 02:45:34 AM
What are the instructions for giving a ball a hot water soak?  I heard this really works as my balls have about 50 games on them.  I want to bring back the reaction on the Total Inferno, Black Widow, and BVP Rampage.
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: twister on June 19, 2007, 10:53:02 AM
Remember to only use hot tap water and not boiling water. I soak mine for no more than 15-20 minutes max.
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: rbroller815 on June 19, 2007, 11:13:47 AM
how much reaction did the ball loose in 50 games
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: BrunsBrent on June 19, 2007, 03:53:13 PM
directions as follows:

1- get bucket

2- fill half way with hot tap water

3- put ball in bucket

4- wait till water gets room temp


.... i know, its a difficult process but im sure you could handle it
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: timisu87 on June 19, 2007, 04:57:29 PM
Thats just an estimate, i've used the balls for 2 leagues so far.  So probably more than 50.  I was not aware it was so easy.  I thought I had to add simple green to the water.  I enjoy the sarcasm though .  The reaction has dulled down a bit and its something I thought would help it recover a bit more.  
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Edited on 6/19/2007 4:59 PM
Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: spinner031 on June 19, 2007, 07:22:58 PM
I still vote on putting them on the dishwasher.  Once again:

 

You can dry it off with a paper towel when you're done, and it'll feel like a basketball!
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: MI 2 AZ on June 19, 2007, 09:16:40 PM
I put the ball in a bucket and add hot tap water with some Dawn.  Let it soak for about 10 minutes and take the ball out and wipe it off.  Repeat as necessary using fresh hot water.  

Dishwasher method is good too but I havent used it.


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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: DON DRAPER on June 19, 2007, 09:34:29 PM
since this is a brunswick forum why not use the method they recommend to extract oil from bowling balls ? having the oil removed with a revivor or rejuvenator will make your ball like new.
Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: jensm on June 20, 2007, 03:30:54 AM
Follow the link to see what Morich recommends:

http://www.morichbowling.com/Products/Cleaning.htm

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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: dizzyfugu on June 20, 2007, 04:46:59 AM
quote:
since this is a brunswick forum why not use the method they recommend to extract oil from bowling balls ? having the oil removed with a revivor or rejuvenator will make your ball like new.


Because it costs a fee... And the DIY experience, you cannot beat that It's like barbeque!
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: MaidenheadBandit on June 20, 2007, 04:58:44 AM
I put a Black Cherry Bomb in the dishwasher last night.(300 plus games on it)
35deg, 1/4hour timer, degreasing tablet, drying cycle off. Dried with a cloth.
Cost about 50p

It came out perfect good as new.

Better than spending £25 to £40 at the pro shop in their cooker (rejuvinator), plus travelling and them trying to get you to buy another ball because rejuvenating is costly and after 4 or 5 times you could have bought one.
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: DON DRAPER on June 20, 2007, 05:54:52 AM
dizzyfugu, "because it costs a fee" ?  well, having your ball scuffed or polished also costs a fee. having your ball drilled has a fee. buying a bottle of polish has a fee. these fees are all expected when you buy a bowling ball and plan on getting the most performance out of them.
Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: MaidenheadBandit on June 20, 2007, 06:10:22 AM
Greg,

DIY at home if you have spinner/dishwasher/sink/gods sun
10 balls in arsenal = £100/year

At pro shop = £6-700/year
10 balls x2 rejuvination per year = £4-500
10 balls x2 resurface/touch up per year = £1-150.

I use 10 balls in my arsenal, figures would be proportional on a smaller arsenal.

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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: Powermachine- on June 20, 2007, 06:30:15 AM
fill up a bucket water about 65 percent and mix it with some dish soap set in the hot water overnight for it will get rid of the oil, then if you want get some of the sandpaper pads and do the resurface yourself. starting 100 grit to the factory finish or whatever you desire.
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: DON DRAPER on June 20, 2007, 06:59:05 AM
maidenheadbandit, most of us in the united states are not familiar with money measured in british pounds. despite the cost, this is what brunswick recommends. many people will waste much more money on cigarettes, gambling, alcohol, etc.
Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: MaidenheadBandit on June 20, 2007, 07:22:35 AM
£1.00 = $1.9884
DIY cleaning are variations of ball manufacturers recommendations.

As for cigarettes, gambling etc that is a differant matter which should be discussed in the Misc forum.

If you wish next time I will keep my mouth shut and not pass on my views and experiances.

cheers
MB
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: dizzyfugu on June 20, 2007, 07:38:32 AM
Just chiming in again. Sure, pro shops have to market their services, and the Rejuvenator surely is a device that's good and specifically developed for the job.

But I am with maidenheadbandit (even though I do not have a pro shop with a Rejuvenator close by, at least as far as I know) - it is costly and time consuming. You can do the bucket at home, it is a safe and very effective method, and regarding the costs more or less free if you have a civilized household.

Besides, for many players, such a treatment comes as a luxury. I guess that a lot of people out there even do not know that their balls absorb oil and that this affects performance and longevity iof their equipment. I wouldn't consider frequent visitors of this board to be that unaware, and with a ball arsenal around, cutting costs is an important issue. Bowling itself is expensive enough, the UK even worse than continental Europe.
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: dizzyfugu on June 20, 2007, 07:56:02 AM
A porous ball will soak water. I know that a friend who works in a local pro shop made an oil extraction via bucket with an EPX-T1, and he weighed the ball just before the bucket, thereafter, and again after he put the ball in a mildly warm oven. He found that the ball had soaked up almost 3 ounces of oil, which was effectively replaced by the water after the bucket and which finally vaporized in the oven.

This is a very porous ball and probably the most extreme case you might find. But the water will sooner or later disappear (the conditioenr will last), while you get a NIB-like surface.

Unless the water temperature is too high, no risk to core, filler or cover should exist. Just do not to the ball what you cannot stand with bare hands, and avoid harsh temperature changes. Give the ball time to heat up and cool down.
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: MaidenheadBandit on June 20, 2007, 07:58:56 AM
Dizzy cheers for the back up.

I do 2 balls a week on rotation, that equals 5 week intervall per ball about 30 games per ball give or take based on lane conditions.

Droopy, water evaporates from the ball very quickly, so absorbsion is not a problem, normally I leave the ball in the airing cupboard for a day to make sure all the water has gone, if I havn't got time hairdryer on low heat..

Results are impressive both ways, dishwasher or sink/bucket, just do not use a too high temp 30-50deg should be OK
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Title: Re: Looking to hot water soak bowling balls
Post by: luvtobowl2 on June 21, 2007, 11:16:50 AM
MaidenheadBandit;

I'm assuming that the 30-50 degrees you are referring to are Celsius reads.  Can you convert to F for me?  Thanks!!!
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