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Equipment Boards => Brunswick => Topic started by: MrNattyBoh on March 07, 2014, 12:56:27 PM
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Hello all! I just want to know who has thrown both of these balls and what type of comparison would give the two? I currently have the melee but the last two weeks or so I have had big time problems with carry. I can get to the pocket without a problem but I am running into a few carry issues lately. I am looking for a piece with a very similar look to the pocket with about 2-3 boards more pop down lane. I have a Mystic on order and was just looking for some comparisons between the two. Thanks guys!
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The ball is going to be earlier and more even rolling from what I have seen. The hybrid cover is really good on that ball. Just make sure not to over drill the ball.
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Not much similar between the two balls-- Melee is for dryer mediums, smooth and controlled.
Mystic was designed to be longer and stronger at the break over any other Aura balls-- for me the cover was too strong/early, and I got more of a hook-set type look even with a 45 x 4.5 x 35 layout and surface alterations.
Honestly, drill up the Melee-- its better than the Mystic
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See if you can order the original Aura, instead of the Mystic (plus, the mystic will be on close out soon, so you'll be able to save major $$ on it if you wait a few weeks).
The Mystic (for me) was early, "rolly", and good for fresh flatter non-THS patterns; it needed volume even with surface alterations from 500(OOB), to 1k, 2k, and 4k with polish. I tried each surface on multiple patterns, added a weight hole when the ball wasn't reacting with a manner that I found acceptable, used it on THS, sport patterns, the Red-white-blue series of patterns..... I just didn't like the ball.
If you want something similar to the Melee, but just a little stronger, see if you can get any of these balls:
1. Aura (original, first release in the series)
2. Mean streak Brawler
3. Ringer (burgundy, first release)
4. Dude (DV8 but owned by Brunswick)-- this would be the closest ball to the Melee; its Brunswicks/DV8's version of the HyRoad from Storm
5. Diva (with polish)
Each of these balls would be a nice complement for the Melee; also, you could just drill up a new Melee, but change the surface and layout strength.
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You would definitely want the Dude. It will put you in the same part of the lane as the Melee, but have a little more pop down the lane.
If you would like a ball that you could use to bump in a couple boards to compliment the Melee, check out the LT-48. It is a lot stronger down the lane than most would expect.
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The Aura Mystic will hook sooner out of the box and be a little smoother down lane than the Melee. If the Melee isn't hooking enough or is hooking too late the Aura Mystic will work. If you are looking for the same shape as the Melee with more hook the Mastermind Genius is your ball. The Genius is more angular than the Mystic.
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Dude all the way . Strong pin up drill with a nice coat of polish. Sounds perfect for what u need. I've said it beforenrhe dude is my favorite ballr ever thrown
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I think some of you guys missed my point where I said I already have a mystic on order....i got it on a discontinued price....lol.....but your reply's are greatly appreciated.
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To answer your original question. The Mystic Aura has a more angular motion compare to the Melee. The Melee has a smoother reaction and is good for medium to lighter oil conditions. The Mystic Aura has a lower RG core and will start up sooner than the Melee and can handle heavier oil conditions. I would suggest drilling it a little stronger than your Melee to give that extra hook in the back.
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Brandon H--
Did you own the Mystic Aura? I know you love your Melee, and I just drilled mine up (throwing it tonight for league) and can't wait to see how it reacts.
I wasn't impressed with the Mystic-- was "deemed" to be longer and more angular by design and drill; didn't turn out that way.
I would drill the Mystic to "flip" as much as possible-- something like 60 x 5 x 40 for dual angles, with pin above your fingers. Will be much stronger than the Melee, but they should complement each other
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Keeping in mind that I drilled my Melee for control (2 1/2" pin to PAP), the Mystic Aura is stronger and more angular than the Melee.
I believe that with the same layout and same surface they'd be close, until the last 10 feet of the lane, and then the Mystic should be 1 to 2 boards stronger when thrown on the same line.
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BowlingBallSale, Yes I have a Mystic Aura that is drilled 85 x 5 1/2" x 35, and my Melee is drilled 70 x 4 1/2" x 40. The Mystic Aura has more length than the Melee and is more angular. I have typically used the Mystic Aura when I need to get deeper on the lane and throw it to the friction. Or, I can use it earlier but can play straighter with a stronger backend motion.
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"BowlingBallSale, Yes I have a Mystic Aura that is drilled 85 x 5 1/2" x 35, and my Melee is drilled 70 x 4 1/2" x 40. The Mystic Aura has more length than the Melee and is more angular."
Brandon-- you can call me Steve
Just threw my Melee in comparison to the 300t, and my Nexxxus F(P+S). I found the Melee to be longer (even with pin below my ring finger) than the 300t and more angular (Melee surface is at 2k + polish; 300T is at 3k + Storm Reacta-Shine, and Storm Moon Shine); I wanted to have a nice 1-2 punch with the Melee and 300T as my medium/dry lane balls..... seems like we might have a "winner".
Also, I included a pic of my Mystic Aura and Nexxxus (Bronze Pearl beauty!)-- I found the Nexxxus to be much longer than the Mystic (comparable surface texture and finish), and much more usable. For me (even with the surface at 2 or 4k plus polish) the Mystic wasn't angular-- it was "rolly" and lacked what we call "back-end"..... I've not had a ton of success with high end asymmetrical Brunswick equipment; for whatever reason, I just don't line up well with their high performance cores. Give me anything below their "High End" stuff and I'm good to go, hence my excitement to drill up the Melee.
Funny tid-bit -- the Nexxxus, even as a pearl, was burning up before getting to the pins on 3 different house shots, I simply couldn't carry (it comes at 500, plus Rough Buff) as it lost too much energy at the pocket. Took it home, hit it with 500 to get the factory polish off, then took it to 1000, and then 2000-- after that, we added Storm Reacta-Shine in an attempt to get the ball to "look" the same on the lanes while increasing the carry percentage (another option is to add a balance hole to change the rg/diff but that's a last resort). It turned out exactly as we hoped; the ball cleared the heads and mids (when previously you could see it want to start up and bleed energy) and retained more energy as it hit the pocket.
First full game with it after changing the surface? 268......... which topped off my 802 series Thursday night!
This turned out longer than anticipated, with more rambling-- sorry!
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Steve, good bowling with the Nexxxus! I'm glad that the surface change got your desired reaction.
Looking at your layouts, I would agree with your assessment in comparing the 3 balls. Not knowing your pap, speed and area of the lane you were playing, It would seem that the Mystic is drilled with a dual angle layout near 30 x 5 x 70 which would have the ball start up sooner and have a smoother reaction on the back. Sometimes with a pin down drilling it will go longer if you use a 70 or 80 as your first angle in a dual angle layout, and a 60 or 70 as the second angle which will help the ball store energy. Most of the manufacturers will suggest a 60 x 5 x 70 layout as a big crank layout.
Keep up the good bowling.
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Pap is 5 over-- ball speed around 16.5 at the pins-- played different angles, patterns, speed, surface adjustments with the Mystic. Numbers came out to be 40 x 4.5 x 35 but it didn't roll like the numbers would suggest. I'm guessing the ball and I just didn't "match up" well, which happens. Sold it to a friend and he's having success.
Thanks for the advice-- always good to talk bowling with a friend "outside" of the lanes and competition.
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Hello all! I just want to know who has thrown both of these balls and what type of comparison would give the two? I currently have the melee but the last two weeks or so I have had big time problems with carry. I can get to the pocket without a problem but I am running into a few carry issues lately. I am looking for a piece with a very similar look to the pocket with about 2-3 boards more pop down lane. I have a Mystic on order and was just looking for some comparisons between the two. Thanks guys!
I use my Melee on dryer slower conditions. On faster oilier surfaces the ball tends to skid longer. The Aura Mystic is a true animal. Clean through the heads with a more angular reaction at the breakpoint. I have 2 Mystics with different layouts, i love them both.