Author Topic: MEXICAN OR AMERICAN??? (Read 7238 times)

ACDC · « **on:** February 09, 2007, 12:04:22 PM »

I Recently purchased a total inferno from bowling.com and I noticed it said made in mexico on the box, is that why the ball only costed $130???
Are total infernos made in america and mexico?? and if so are the one's made in mexico not as good as the U.S made one's?

Is this why internet companies can sell ball's cheaper, because they are from Mexico??
Be easy on me I am a beginner and I know its a stupid question...lol???

shelley · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2007, 08:21:00 PM »

Brunswick moved its factory to Mexico last year. The Wizard, Radical Inferno, Total Inferno, and Mammoth are 100% Mexican-made. Other balls still in production are now made in Mexico, but were made in the US before the move.

SH

ACDC · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2007, 08:26:41 PM »

THANKS for the info boys and girls, its always nice to have BOWLING GODS AROUND ME TO HELP!!!

laufaye · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2007, 08:30:54 PM »

Actually made in Mexico should be more expensive, higher on shipping.

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DON DRAPER · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2007, 08:56:57 PM »

i'm not convinced that the american made balls are of a better quality than the ones made in mexico. by quality do you mean their roll and hitting power ? all of my arsenal was made in mexico ( mammoth, scorchin' inferno, wizard, and both rampages ) and the roll and hitting power are just fine. my punisher is older so it was made in the usa. my mexican made equipment has a quality look to the coverstock as well.

No Open Tenths · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:11:07 PM »

Booling eh....
Where is your evidence to the fact that mexican made balls are inferior?
The size of the pin has absolute no relavence to quality.
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BrunsNick · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:21:05 PM »

Wow, your shop attests for the entire country! The balls are fine, you are just retarded.

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BrunsWolf · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:35:57 PM »

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rackattack · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:56:17 PM »

I just drilled my Mexican Mammoth.
The ball had no physical defects.
The pin was slightly larger.(so what)
The color is blue and well...a darker color.Box says copper.(so what)
There were 2 cg marks about 1/2" apart but the one that had the white filler was the correct one.
The pin and weights were as stated on the box.
As far as roll it's in true round so that won't be a problem.
For Booling I also have recently drilled
1)Red Zone-USA
2)Black Pearl-USA
3)Vapor Zone-USA
4)Big One-USA
5)Angular One-USA
6)Hot Rod Hybrid-USA
and didn't see any quality difference.
And like ANY ball the hit and carry will depend on how it matches my delivery.
This ball came from an internet supplier and was pulled at random according to my pin and weight request and not hand choosen for quality.
And before you check my profile and say well you didn't mention this or that manufacturer let me assure I've used them all at one time or another.
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fins4ever88 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2007, 09:56:56 PM »

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Booling eh....
Where is your evidence to the fact that mexican made balls are inferior?
The size of the pin has absolute no relavence to quality.
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Whether you think you can, or whether you think you can't... you're probably right.

Well first off, I am aware the pin has no effect on ball reaction, however, if they can't even put the same size pin each ball (and they aren't putting those different size pins in intentionally) it makes you wonder if they are doing everything else correct to make them react the same. Secondly, look at the to selling bowling balls right now they are coming out of the U.S. not Mexico. My proshop sells way more U.S.A. made equipment the Mexico made. The bowlers buy the best product that is out and right now its not coming from south of the border.
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It is not the ball it is the BOWLER!

You do realize that Brunswick is the only company out in Mexico, right? Or are you just the idiot everyone is saying you are. Obviously US equipment will outsell Mexican equipment. That's just common sense.

Wait until the Fury is released. All of a sudden you'll be selling Mexican equipment like crazy, that is if you're smart enough to stock it.
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DON DRAPER · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2007, 10:02:46 PM »

i have thrown nothing but brunswick equipment since 1995---that's 12 years. i've gone from sapphire blue zones all the way to the inferno series and everything in between. we're talking about dozens of balls.....dozens. i've had plenty of opportunity to evaluate quality as it refers to their roll and hitting power. and plenty of opportunity to look at the finish on the ball. i've compared this quality to other players i know who've used the same ball and our results are the same. this applies to current balls and balls that are no longer made. my pro shop operator has thrown every ball that's come out in this span as well. our opinions on these subjects are the same.

UNObowler01 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2007, 10:25:44 PM »

Look at this guy's (Booling eh) profile:

"Hello I am Fred. I work at a pro shop. I am pretty against what brunswick has been doing lately i.e move to Mexico they are in it for the money and only the money."

I'm pretty sure Ebonite and Storm aren't making equipment because they like round things.

First of all, get one thing straight. The companies that make bowling equipment are NOT rolling in millions in profit every year. You can believe what you want, but Brunswick did what they did so they could improve the technology they use to produce equipment without sending their prices through the roof.

Secondly, of COURSE you're going to sell more balls made in the USA than Mexico. Brunswick is the only company to my knowledge that is manufacturing in Mexico.

Third, bowlers will not buy the best product, they will buy what you tell them the best product is. If your view of a product is jaded because the pin is too big, you're going to sell him the Ebonite ball that has the same size pin everytime. It might hit like a sack of tapioca, but by golly that pin is PERFECTO.

I'm not saying that the NV and the Widow are not good balls, because they are very good. But you will have a hard time convincing me that they are outselling B balls by the leaps and bounds you seem to be so sure they are.

If you can find me a ball by Storm or Ebonite that retains reaction as long as any Brunswick ball, with the ability to bring it back to out of box reaction, let me know because I'll go buy a case. If you're more concerned about the size of the locator pin and the coverstock color blend than the reaction, well then its obvious you have made your judgement without actually trying it. Too bad, you don't know what you're missing out on.

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Kinalyx · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2007, 10:35:03 PM »

I will say 1 thing about the new mexican made stuff.

A shop i went to up until a month or so ago looked at my total with 2 CG markings, & said that there was no way EITHER was right. He claims to have had ZERO brunswick balls from the last 2 years or so with the correct top weight within .5oz & the CG was normally about 1/4" off. He nearly crapped himself when not only was the CG with the white filler correct, but the top weight was 100% PERFECT.

So, just judging from that, i would say that mexico is now getting their stuff together & putting out a higher quality product than they did when the factory first opened. Im not saying its because its in mexico either, any brand new factory is going to have issues for a little bit, its just something that cant be worked around.

Shawn

Kellsden · « **Reply #13 on:** February 09, 2007, 10:54:50 PM »

I agree with everyone here who understands that a single entity with operational bases in a different country will not out perform the new supergiant Ebonite has assembled with the independents working their loyal although a little more regional fan bases. But I am a person who enjoy facts and at last check on bowlingball.com they actually come right out and say the #1 Selling ball is the Total Inferno. And that's one of the larger Internet retailers by hits on site and search hits. Amazing that a company would actually advertise a ball that sells at a faster rate and not just one of domestic origin. Those marketing classes i had will pay off at some point. And I currently own a Total, Radical, Total NV as well as a Spit Fire and V2 Sanded. 2 US and 2 Mexico

« **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2007, 08:22:40 AM »

Brunswick's new facility is state of the art. Bowling is about 10% of Brunswick's business, so in order to remain competitive and not have to pay someone between $25 and $40 per hour to make bowling balls in an outdated facility, they built a new plant.

Sorry if it's in Mexico, where they could control their manufacturing costs. If you've got a problem with this, then take off your shoes, pants, shirt, etc., because they were all probably assembled in Mexico or another country. Wake up. The economy is a GLOBAL economy, not just a U.S. economy.

No one is forcing you to buy Brunswick. Those of us who like their product will attest to the quality coming out of the new plant. Of all the balls being returned to the manufacturers (by the distributor that we use) for cracking and other problems very, very, few are coming from Brunswick's or Ebonite's plants.

Every ball company has balls with varying pins. The 1" pins are usually very cheap because they're considered "blems." The same is true with extremely long pin placements. Strange pins give the driller fewer options. I won't tell anyone to not buy from the internet sites, just realize that if the price seems extremely low, you may be limited on choices.
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