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Tarasevich

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Mexican Production
« on: January 21, 2007, 01:06:49 PM »
Although they managed to limit their layoffs to only a third of the Michigan workforce, this is a sad event.

I currently don't throw Brunswick, but have in the past.  My Wine Rhino, Rhino Gold Pearl, and Grizz were all great American made balls.  The Brunswick corporation has seen recalls and quality problems as a result of some of their other divisions' production centres currently located in Mexico.  Already, arrival of their new viz-a-balls will be delayed to may distributors by several months as a result of their relocation efforts.

Although brunswick is not, thankfully, outsourcing its sales and support stucture to India or otherwise off shore, the bowling community is going to be drastically impacted by these changes.  Brunswick is not the only brand of balls that they manufacture, as many of us are aware.

While we are in a strong economy with low unemployment (actually below frictional unemployment of 5% which is considered acceptable), the fact that many noin-residents account for many of these positions, while natural or naturalized citizens suffer.  My heart does go out for the great production team in Michigan.

This decision by Brunswick has already forced myself and others I know to no longer support Brunswick's centres or bowling and other recreational products now being shipped to Mexico.

My hopes are that the Big B finds a way to maintain qualiyt control and assurance of their once superior product.  Has this decision caused unease or boycott by any bowlers in your areas?

 

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2007, 03:28:48 PM »
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God Bless the USA....well, unless I can save a few nickels on my motorized tie-racks. Welcome to the race to the bottom. Justify it all you want, it's nothing but corporate externalization (in this case labor costs). One day all Americans will learn the trusty phrase, "do you want fries with that?"

(Disclaimer: In no way do I fault Brunswick, they are playing the only game possible to survive. I still like and respect the Big B...they are, like many good companies, victims of the plague.)


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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2007, 03:29:26 PM »
I do live in Muskegon, Michigan and the guys I bowl with are union employees and they bowl with Brunswick balls.  There is no easy answer to the made in America vs abroad debate.  Hard to find a microwave, Tv, clothes, lawn furniture etc that is made in this country.  Maybe our community should have done a better job with economic development incentives to give them an option to stay.  I don't know if that would have been possible.

If the move kept Brunswick in business then it saved many US jobs in engineering, sales, marketing, distribution, etc.  There are still Brunswick employees here who service lane equipment, etc.

It was hard for me to accept this move at first, but I have.  It would have been a much greater tragedy to lose a great company like this.

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2007, 03:39:00 PM »
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When is the last time you have seen a ford go 100,000 miles before a problem has occured.


If your Ford, GM, Chrysler, or any other car hasn't lasted 100K miles, you aren't changing the oil enough.  Change your oil regularly, say, around every 100 miles or so, and any car will last longer than the driver.

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2007, 03:48:44 PM »
So since they moved to try and improve the bottom line how many of the top guys got the ax and how many took pay cuts? I've got a feeling none, its called corporate greed how much more can we the upper eschalon get ?
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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2007, 03:52:51 PM »
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When is the last time you have seen a ford go 100,000 miles before a problem has occured.


If your Ford, GM, Chrysler, or any other car hasn't lasted 100K miles, you aren't changing the oil enough.  Change your oil regularly, say, around every 100 miles or so, and any car will last longer than the driver.

SH


Change oil every 100 miles??

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2007, 03:59:13 PM »
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Change oil every 100 miles??


That's what I hear, anyway.  Personally, I drive through the oil change place on my way home from work every day, sometimes twice if I have errands to run.

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2007, 04:11:52 PM »
You know there is no right nor wrong in this situation. Brunswick decided to move and that is what they did no changing it now. It was brought up by someone on this thread about buying all sorts of things from TV's, VCR's, DVD players, Cars, etc. Somethings you have little or no choice in where the products are made, produced, or assembled  but in this situation there are plenty of other companies to choose from. I myself have decided not to purchase Brunswick products of any kind since I found out about the move that is MY choice/decision. Everyone has the right to make their own decision and they should not be criticized or ridiculed for their choice/decision. Anyone can look at my profile and see what equipment I have purchased recently, will it hurt or impact Brunswick who knows but I sure feel great about my decision and that is all that matters.
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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2007, 04:37:59 PM »
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Change oil every 100 miles??


That's what I hear, anyway.  Personally, I drive through the oil change place on my way home from work every day, sometimes twice if I have errands to run.

SH


you do realize that there are other parts on a car that wear, that oil doesnt touch right?

every 100 miles, at that pace, you could buy another car in a few years from the money NOT spent on that rediculous ritual.

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2007, 04:58:12 PM »
Well, I haven't had any problems with any American car lasting more than 100k miles - just got rid of a Ford Probe with 130k+ miles - okay, maybe that was Japanese since it was basically a Mazda!

Anyways, if (and when) the Democrats win the next election (especially if that evil Hilary Clinton wins), I'll be buying items made in the country where I reside - do they make anything in Canada?

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2007, 06:28:22 PM »
hey how do you think china is geting all that economic power? yeah right by paying a dime a week of work, and besides it isnt like the u.s. has played fair always, get over it stop being a criying baby.
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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2007, 06:41:37 PM »
As wage go up so do prices but the north American consumer wants to pay less so companies are trying to sell product but are having trouble profitting so the make THE move abroad. I just moved from Windsor, Ontario becuse there was no work there. A lot of people are so against Honda Toyota and other overseas companies but they fail to realize that toyotas and hondas sold in NA are primarily made in the US and Canada and possible have more american made parts than ford, gm and DCX. Personally I will buy GM products as I like their styling.

As for car lasting 100K. GM and DCX have added their 100000mile warranty. Also perform regular preventative maintenance(Oil-every 3000miles, Tranny flush-say 20000miles, Chassis Lube every so often) and your car will last


As for Brunswick moving to Mexico. Who Cares if you don't want to buy them fine(won't hurt their feelings any) if you do great(they appreciate your business).

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2007, 07:16:05 PM »
Oh my god, YIKES!!!  I have often disagreed with Shelly and not said anything, but this time.  Every 100 miles.  Lord, help us all with that comment.
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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2007, 07:31:21 PM »
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Oh my god, YIKES!!!  I have often disagreed with Shelly and not said anything, but this time.  Every 100 miles.  Lord, help us all with that comment.


That's just what I heard from a reliable source who said his brother or cousin did that.  The car companies want you to go 3K miles between changes because they know their engines won't hold up that long.  200K, 300K later, the engine is shot.  But do it every 100 miles and that puppy will last forever.

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2007, 08:12:41 PM »
100 miles? You are out of your mind!

So a person that has to drive 100 miles roundtrip to work and back should change their oil every day? Hmm, okay 5 days a week and 25 a pop. $125 a week, $500 a month. $6,000 a year!

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Re: Mexican Production
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2007, 08:19:13 PM »
wow shelley, what kind of car do you roll everyday?  and do you see yourself sitting in it 200k later?


 
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Oh my god, YIKES!!!  I have often disagreed with Shelly and not said anything, but this time.  Every 100 miles.  Lord, help us all with that comment.


That's just what I heard from a reliable source who said his brother or cousin did that.  The car companies want you to go 3K miles between changes because they know their engines won't hold up that long.  200K, 300K later, the engine is shot.  But do it every 100 miles and that puppy will last forever.

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