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Title: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: BrunsMike on January 31, 2007, 02:03:35 PM: Okay guys. I dont know if its just me or if its the Octane Coverstock. Let me 1st begin with what the technical information.

Lanes AMF synthetics, newer. Just about 1 year old, 3 weeks from 1 year old. 40' long 5 to 5 wall. Pretty sweet line usually playing 30-8, can have success playing 20-5 also.

The ball is layed out with pin half inch right of ring finger, CG 1" up and slightly right of thumb. Might need a flare increasing x-hole, uncertain yet. The ball is 220 not quite rough buffed (sheen n' clean from Track).

Im a 17 MPH, cranker, with average revs i guess.

When I roll the ball perfectly on my line the ball is insanely crazy!! Love it, but if i miss 3 boards right I pay for it dearly as its a guaranteed washout every time. My rampage on the same line will recover with a 3 board miss right and strike!

What do you think I should do here? Ill have a picture up tomorrow of the ball and layout.
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Mike Zadler
Using the best brand in the nation, BRUNSWICK!!!
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
Winter season averages at Sunset Lanes in Waukegan IL.
Wed. Nite Ave: 196
Thur. Nite Ave: 216
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Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: revTrex on January 31, 2007, 10:09:55 PM: Getting a strong solid ball into too much dry too quickly will cause the ball to not quite recover, since it is probably rolling out...especially if the Rampage, a pearl ball, is responding better to the friction downlane. I would suggest taking a higher grit pad to the Total, or maybe going with some polish, so that you can to stand a little closer to the dry, and not have to get the ball into the dry too early.

Hope this helps.
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Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: timisu87 on January 31, 2007, 10:12:07 PM: I was about to ask the same question, regarding my total inferno as well. Sometimes I wonder if the ball is really that forgiving. My ball is drilled almost about the same. I have taken it to a Green scotch brite pad and it does go a bit longer but still needs a bit more.
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Current Arsenal:
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Edited on 1/31/2007 11:11 PM
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: KCarter069 on January 31, 2007, 10:13:56 PM: quote:
Getting a strong solid ball

Total is a Pearl...
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-KCarter
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: BrunsMike on January 31, 2007, 10:15:36 PM: revTrex, the Total Inferno is NOT a solid. It is a 3 color pearl. I did my research on this ball and know it fairly well.
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Mike Zadler
Using the best brand in the nation, BRUNSWICK!!!
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
Winter season averages at Sunset Lanes in Waukegan IL.
Wed. Nite Ave: 196
Thur. Nite Ave: 216
http://www.BrunsNick.com
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: metallicaaaaaaa on January 31, 2007, 10:16:20 PM: quote:
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Getting a strong solid ball
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Total is a Pearl...

Don't worry! I thought it was a solid at first too. But it is partly a pearlized ball.
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"I don't wanna go home! I wanna go to Reno!"
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: BrunsMike on January 31, 2007, 10:20:32 PM: quote:
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Getting a strong solid ball
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Total is a Pearl...

Don't worry! I thought it was a solid at first too. But it is partly a pearlized ball.
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"I don't wanna go home! I wanna go to Reno!"

How can a ball partly be pearl?? It is or its not, cant be both! Anyway, can we please keep this on topic. Thanks to all. (sorry if this came across snappy, kinda irritated with the octane coverstock) If im having this much trouble with the radical and total infernos, i will not be buying the Fury at all. But like i said, id like to try and get this thing figured out without stepping off topic too much.
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Mike Zadler
Using the best brand in the nation, BRUNSWICK!!!
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
Winter season averages at Sunset Lanes in Waukegan IL.
Wed. Nite Ave: 196
Thur. Nite Ave: 216
http://www.BrunsNick.com
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: revTrex on January 31, 2007, 10:39:17 PM: My mistake...I guess I just "think" of the Total as a solid because of how it rolls, etc. In any case, the principle is the same -- stronger ball than the Rampage = possible roll out = possible inability to recover.
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Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: BrunsMike on January 31, 2007, 11:07:54 PM: I understand that the possibility of this ball is at a higher risk to rolling out because it is stronger then most of my equipment, minus my Scorchin Inferno.

I cant really see the ball roll out visibly by rotation but since the ball seems to have virtually NO recovery at all, that says the ball is burning up in the midlane. Tomorrow before bowling I will get to the lanes at 4:30 and have Jim bring up the surface to 800 grit with the same polish. Then give it another run.
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Mike Zadler
Using the best brand in the nation, BRUNSWICK!!!
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
Winter season averages at Sunset Lanes in Waukegan IL.
Wed. Nite Ave: 196
Thur. Nite Ave: 216
http://www.BrunsNick.com
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: WSUstroker on February 01, 2007, 07:11:05 AM: Mike, I had the same issue with my Total as well. Mine is drilled 5x5, pin over bridge CG kicked slightly out, small XH on PAP. I found that my ball OOB would not recover when I had to swing the ball, I saw a similar reaction to yours. Mine did not look like it was rolling out, just failing miserably to turn. My Red Zone, drilled the same, would recover just fine but the Total looked like hell. The ball had a good reaction when I kept the angle off my hand down, playing straighter, but the dull cover took off on me far too early.

I have since put a coat of High Gloss polish over box finish and slightly scuffed it by hand with gray SB pad. The ball now reacts much better for me. While I still cannot play the deep inside angles with it as carry is suspect, I find this ball to work very well for me when I need to play straighter.

I am thinking of plugging the XH and shifting it down along the VAL to increase the flare, but right now I like the reaction I'm getting out of it. While it doesn't react like I had anticipated, it gives me a look I didn't previously have.
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Dan Chambers
www.absolutebowling.com
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: crankncrash on February 01, 2007, 01:48:19 PM: I am sure you have too much surface on it for the condition you are on, I have similar issues in one house and have ALL the room in the world on a heavier shot.. I think if you get it on a lil more oil you will love it, or polish it.
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: Strider on February 01, 2007, 03:38:38 PM: If a Rampage is already doing the job, and you rolled a much stronger ball on the same line, why are you surprised that it's laboring? The Total is made to handle much more oil then the Rampage, so it almost has to be rolling out if it's thrown the same place. Why would you even want it to react the same on the same lane condition? If it did, you would have paid for a second (more expensive) ball that would do the same thing. Move deeper inside (feet and target) where there's a higher concentration of oil or save the Total for when there's more oil period.
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Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: BrunsMike on February 01, 2007, 09:35:59 PM: Strider, because this is new to me as I am now starting to realize what the term Burning Up means.

BrunsRich, I had the ball at 220 with sheen polish (driller does not have brunswick polishes, im gonna ask if i paid for the materials if he can teach me how to sand and polish equipment. Today i had the surface brough back up to 1000 grit without polish to see if there was any differance. The ball no longer labors off the break point but still does not have the kinda move I had seen in videos. I looked at the oil rings, from the 1st oil ring by the fingers to the last ring it is about 5.5" and fairly wide apart. So a flare increasing x-hole would make matters worse in this situation, im gonna look at doing a flare decreasing x-hole with a touch of polish on the cover.
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Mike Zadler
Using the best brand in the nation, BRUNSWICK!!!
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
Winter season averages at Sunset Lanes in Waukegan IL.
Wed. Nite Ave: 196
Thur. Nite Ave: 216
http://www.BrunsNick.com
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: Draxond300 on February 01, 2007, 09:57:49 PM: quote:
How can a ball partly be pearl?? It is or its not, cant be both! Anyway, can we please keep this on topic.

Off topic, but it is possible. Storm and Roto Grip have been doing it for a while, now. Roto's Apocalypse, Silver Streak Special Edition, and Epic Saga are all pearl/solid hybrid coverstocks. Therefore, they ARE indeed partly pearl.
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Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: mrbowlingnut on February 01, 2007, 10:33:42 PM: smash/r was first solid/peral brunswick ball i believe
Title: Re: Mini Total Inferno Review (need some help)
Post by: BrunsMike on February 02, 2007, 03:35:08 PM: Holy crap, i just learned alot in the last 5 or so posts! lol I had no idea that was possible, I do now. I had no idea that the rampage was solid/pearl till just now, no wonder why I love my rampage!

Thanks again to all replies.
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Mike Zadler
Using the best brand in the nation, BRUNSWICK!!!
Below, my stats from previous seasons:
http://members.bowl.com/FindAMember/memberView.aspx?ms=12886&mp=552&s=2005-2006
Winter season averages at Sunset Lanes in Waukegan IL.
Wed. Nite Ave: 196
Thur. Nite Ave: 216
http://www.BrunsNick.com