Post by: TamerBowling on July 23, 2011, 04:28:48 AM
Hi All,
The new videos are now available at:
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Post by: charlest on July 23, 2011, 05:32:27 PM
I'm sorry, but I have to agree with what some others have said:
Using this web site to make people go to your web site, no matter how much value you provide, is, at best, unethical, and possibly, a conflict of interest; at worst, illicit & illegal.
For Brunswick balls, I'd rather view Billy Orlikowski's videos and go with Ray Salas's opinions.
For Roto-Grip & Storm, I'd rather view Britton Reider's videos.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on July 23, 2011, 06:13:17 PM
How is that any different from you offering opinions on balls that you haven't thrown? You just regurgitate ball reviews from Bowlers Journal. Laughable.
Don't believe in the Uzi, it just went off in my hand. I, I believe in love.
Post by: chatnboy on July 23, 2011, 11:01:34 PM
charlest...first of all he's not making no one goto his website!!!he's letting people know what he has available for them IF they chose to view the videos.secondly if the moderators dont step in and tell him its wrong...then its alright!!!everyone is entitled to their opinions...but its up to the owners and moderators to tell someone if what they are doing or promoting is not allowed!!!
Go hard or go home!!!!!Bowl your best...ALWAYS!!!
Post by: TamerBowling on July 24, 2011, 05:40:27 PM
Wow, I didn't think I would get involved in this sort of thing.
If you would like to see the videos, all are welcome to view them. I'm not sure how it's different because I post the videos on my own website, while others post them on their website as well or youtube.
If you don't want to see them, then don't click the link. Don't go to YouTube. Heck, if you're not interested in ball reviews, video or otherwise, then why come to this site...
Look, I'm just sharing information with people. I don't think I've said a bad word to anyone on this site.
There are many experienced people on this site and I'm happy to get constructive criticism. I just can't understand what the issue is and how this is different than Brunsnick, videoballreviews, or anybody else who is contributing to this site but also have their own site.
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Post by: TamerBowling on July 24, 2011, 05:50:05 PM
Hi. If this is directed towards me, I can't understand this at all. You have no idea if I've thrown the equipment and the fact that reviews are written in conjunction with several testers. I don't even subscribe to Bowlers Journal and I tend to get the balls and reviews before their even on BTM.
So if BJI is saying the same thing I am, then I'll take that as a compliment.
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Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on July 24, 2011, 05:55:53 PM
Take it easy, pal. Wasn't directed at you. The guy bitching about your ball reviews being on your site is famous for offering ball reviews and recommendations based solely on what he reads about the balls. To me, don't review a ball unless you've personally thrown it.
Don't believe in the Uzi, it just went off in my hand. I, I believe in love.
Post by: Urethane Game on July 24, 2011, 06:08:17 PM
Classic Rock and Blues Net Radio
Post by: Urethane Game on July 24, 2011, 06:13:43 PM
Went directly to youtube. Just curious if the loaded was pin up or pin down?
Thanks!
Classic Rock and Blues Net Radio
Edited by Urethane Game on 7/24/2011 at 6:14 PM
Post by: charlest on July 24, 2011, 06:46:00 PM
As I said, this has been discussed previously:
It is different because you're not posting your video here. You are telling people they have to go to your web site to see your video. It's advertising your web site on this one.
I've seen your videos. They're fine, I guess, although I prefer others, as stated.
VideoBallReviews.com (Britton Reider) also posts his videos here, but he posts them here. He doesn't make you go to his web site to see them.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Post by: BrunsNick on July 24, 2011, 06:49:10 PM
I used to post links direct to brunsnick.com to see my videos... nobody seemed to have a complaint? I also received ad revenue that paid for my hosting and domain reg.
Nick Smith - Brunswick Product Specialist/NW
We like you so you should like us!
Post by: kidlost2000 on July 24, 2011, 07:51:51 PM
So it is Brunsnicks fault. lol
If there was a problem by the host site(ballreviews) I'm sure this would have been stopped. So I'm guessing it isn't an issue.
"Get out of bowling what you want because that is all there is."
Post by: slashrr69 on July 24, 2011, 08:23:43 PM
I'd like to know a little more about the bowler jacqui reese.. she seems to throw the ball really well.. slashrr69
Post by: lefty50 on July 24, 2011, 09:09:10 PM
+1 for Charlest. I definitely agree with his statements And moderators? Ha... That's funny. Agreed they can and should control what they feel is right or wrong for this site, they clearly have that right. However, that doesn't mean their opinions are infallible, or even in the majority. It's just an opinion, like we all have... Free world and all that... Don't get all wadded up about it. As for me, it's a tacky way to drive traffic to your site.
Signature? I dont need no stinking signature...
Post by: BrunsNick on July 25, 2011, 12:03:38 AM
It's always my problem... my bad! lol
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Post by: Romulus Cogswell on July 25, 2011, 06:25:34 AM
People will bitch about anything and everything. I quite like that I can come to one site and get references to others with info that I may be interested in. We all still come to BR first.
Post by: AlBundy33 on July 25, 2011, 06:51:42 AM
I think this goes back the old case "It depends who you are".....me thinks.
Personally, I don't care who posts links to what just as long as there are no viruses involved. 
"Pretty women make us buy beer, ugly women make us drink beer"
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Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on July 25, 2011, 07:22:57 AM
Help control the population of Avenging Unicorns. Arm yourselves accordingly.
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Post by: TamerBowling on July 25, 2011, 09:50:02 AM
Thanks all for the feedback. The ruckus in the post Charlest linked to had to do with the fact that I posted the videos in the ballreviews section before I had the written reviews.
Truthfully, I was trying to get the videos out as soon as I could. The written reviews came a day or so later, but a couple of people had a conniption that they went to my site and couldn't see them yet.
By the time the thread took off, the reviews were there.
In the future, I will avoid posting in the ball reviews section until I have written reviews, I guess.
I just want to thank the guys for backing me up, who do this who know how much effort it takes to do it, namely Brunsnick and Britton (VideoBallReviews). It's a lot of work and I do have a day job like everyone else. I'm really just trying to get the information out there as soon as I can and make it as relevant as possible.
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Post by: Pin Head on July 25, 2011, 11:16:40 AM
Thanks for posting your vids, always enjoy watching and checking out your site.
Post by: kidlost2000 on July 25, 2011, 03:48:05 PM
Posting the vids before the written reviews is smart since most people on here don't read. It is easier to watch and make your own conclusion then to have someone tell you what they thought.
"Get out of bowling what you want because that is all there is."
Post by: Sunshine n Lollipops on July 25, 2011, 06:55:57 PM
YOU have zero credibility when it comes to ball videos after your classless act over on the MOTIV site complaining that some video that Justin W was doing was "taking too long". You seem to have a definite opinion how everybody else should run a site or do a video. When can we expect to see your site up and running or post a ball video? Probably never. Those that can, do. Those that can't, bitch how other people are doing it.
Don't believe in the Uzi, it just went off in my hand. I, I believe in love.
Edited by Sunshine n Lollipops on 7/25/2011 at 6:57 PM
Post by: jls on July 26, 2011, 08:57:34 AM
WOW...A lot of fuss over some videos...
What seems to be missed here is this...
Brunswick has EXTENDED their REBATES...
And has even offered them on their 3 new models... Due 8-1-11
$50 off on the Ultra -Max...
$40 off on the Lethol Revolver...
$20 off on the massive damage...
Now that's a deal worth TALKING about...
jls
Post by: Artimust on July 26, 2011, 12:12:47 PM
I'd rather watch videos than read, so thanks for posting either way.
I know it sounds like I'm in denial, but I'm not.
Post by: TamerBowling on July 26, 2011, 07:10:53 PM
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Post by: RSalas on July 26, 2011, 08:14:59 PM
Well, I hope there are *some* people who are still interested in reading reviews.
I don't own a high-definition camera, so I can't create quality videos. I do own a high-definition keyboard, though. 
Ray Salas
Brunswick Amateur Staff
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Post by: chatnboy on July 27, 2011, 02:45:55 AM
uhhmmmm...in my Rodney King font...CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?????
Go hard or go home!!!!!Bowl your best...ALWAYS!!!
Post by: TamerBowling on July 27, 2011, 06:11:02 AM
No worries, I'll still write the reviews for people who do read
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Post by: DON DRAPER on July 31, 2011, 03:00:16 PM
I'm getting my new Ulti-Max drilled up this Thursday and will try it out on Friday for the first time. I'll be one of the old school people who still writes the report.........
I'll also being enjoying the $50 rebate on this ball and the Alpha-Max.
Edited by LBHS1979 on 7/31/2011 at 3:01 PM
Post by: kidlost2000 on August 01, 2011, 06:28:49 PM
"Get out of bowling what you want because that is all there is."