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Title: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: BeerLeague on May 09, 2019, 01:35:10 PM
With the redo of the Vapor Zone, which I find to be one of the best balls in my arsenal (comprised of 90% Storm/Roto) - any chance we could see the new vintage Inferno core wrapped in the new Vapor Zone cover?

Vintage Absolute Inferno --- I'M A BUYER ... NOW.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on May 09, 2019, 02:21:15 PM
+1.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: milorafferty on May 09, 2019, 02:43:38 PM
+1.

Come of BowlingForDonuts, be honest. If they release it today, you will wait until it's discontinued(probably in two weeks) before you buy one.  ;D
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on May 09, 2019, 02:50:38 PM
+1.

Come of BowlingForDonuts, be honest. If they release it today, you will wait until it's discontinued(probably in two weeks) before you buy one.  ;D

TL;DR longer than that.  Probably would end up getting a single drill off ebay to replace my AI OG in 2025 or so (instead of being smart and getting it from Buddies for $75, 6 weeks after release).  AI OG still owns house shot today (so good +1 on name alone lol).  This supposed "vintage" stuff is too strong.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: ignitebowling on May 11, 2019, 08:27:35 AM
Everyone complains about stuff being "too strong" and yet they keep buying it. Seems you could go down the price scale to the stuff made for less hook vs buying mid and upper mid stuff. 
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on May 11, 2019, 11:54:04 AM
Everyone complains about stuff being "too strong" and yet they keep buying it. Seems you could go down the price scale to the stuff made for less hook vs buying mid and upper mid stuff.

TL;DR yep but tend to prefer older stuff to lower strength modern stuff on house shot generally (have both though).  Only recent release I have bought is a Venom Recoil which is about as much ball as I need (drilled it a little weak even).
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: billdozer on May 11, 2019, 11:12:21 PM
With the urethane hype, a "stateside" phantom would be dope
 
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: robby on May 12, 2019, 01:22:18 AM
Vintage Absolut Inferno would be the way to go no doubt.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: sneaky PETE on May 12, 2019, 10:20:32 AM
an overseas ball i would like to see here is the quantum tour btu.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: bowling4burgers on May 12, 2019, 01:56:06 PM
With the urethane hype, a "stateside" phantom would be dope
 
Seems like that should be a lock for Vintage line, along with a Black Beauty and a Custom LTD.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: sneaky PETE on May 12, 2019, 02:11:59 PM
What about another black diamond
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: bowling4burgers on May 12, 2019, 08:31:30 PM
What about another black diamond
Good call. A Vintage Black Diamond with a diamond shaped core would actually be awesome.

Really anything they sold a kazillion of could go in the "Vintage" line.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: michael.willis9 on May 13, 2019, 08:29:04 AM
Dammit the teased the Helix before they said it was the vapor zone..... re-release the helix!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: dougb on May 13, 2019, 09:07:17 AM
My vote is for Sapphire Zone Pearl, but that is far too much of a niche piece to ever make the list.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on May 13, 2019, 11:41:51 AM
Dammit the teased the Helix before they said it was the vapor zone..... re-release the helix!!!!!!!!!

I thought I heard they couldn't make the helix the same way with the USBC manufacturing rules today.  It would be more like some Shadow Ops urethane/reactive hybrid more than likely instead.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: bowling4burgers on May 13, 2019, 01:46:44 PM
My vote is for Sapphire Zone Pearl, but that is far too much of a niche piece to ever make the list.
Anything but that!  ;D

Hated mine. Just seemed to skid, flip, look all pretty, then hit like a marshmallow. Probably my fault for just saying "I want this, drill it leverage" not even knowing what that meant or if the ball was right for the lanes.    :P
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: michael.willis9 on May 13, 2019, 02:08:57 PM
Dammit the teased the Helix before they said it was the vapor zone..... re-release the helix!!!!!!!!!

I thought I heard they couldn't make the helix the same way with the USBC manufacturing rules today.  It would be more like some Shadow Ops urethane/reactive hybrid more than likely instead.

ive heard stuff like that too... but nothing official.  and i'm pretty sure you can still use the helix so.... maybe its grandfathered in... who knows
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on May 13, 2019, 02:15:25 PM
Dammit the teased the Helix before they said it was the vapor zone..... re-release the helix!!!!!!!!!

I thought I heard they couldn't make the helix the same way with the USBC manufacturing rules today.  It would be more like some Shadow Ops urethane/reactive hybrid more than likely instead.

ive heard stuff like that too... but nothing official.  and i'm pretty sure you can still use the helix so.... maybe its grandfathered in... who knows

Yeah its definitely grandfathered in which is why you see people paying $250 for a single drill old one (double helix often even more).  But think they changed it so they can't put balls together frankenstein style like the Helixes any more.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: michael.willis9 on May 13, 2019, 02:34:24 PM
Dammit the teased the Helix before they said it was the vapor zone..... re-release the helix!!!!!!!!!

I thought I heard they couldn't make the helix the same way with the USBC manufacturing rules today.  It would be more like some Shadow Ops urethane/reactive hybrid more than likely instead.

ive heard stuff like that too... but nothing official.  and i'm pretty sure you can still use the helix so.... maybe its grandfathered in... who knows

Yeah its definitely grandfathered in which is why you see people paying $250 for a single drill old one (double helix often even more).  But think they changed it so they can't put balls together frankenstein style like the Helixes any more.

now i'm curious.  i emailed brunswick, i'll let ya know if they respond haha
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on May 13, 2019, 02:40:28 PM
Dammit the teased the Helix before they said it was the vapor zone..... re-release the helix!!!!!!!!!

I thought I heard they couldn't make the helix the same way with the USBC manufacturing rules today.  It would be more like some Shadow Ops urethane/reactive hybrid more than likely instead.

ive heard stuff like that too... but nothing official.  and i'm pretty sure you can still use the helix so.... maybe its grandfathered in... who knows

Yeah its definitely grandfathered in which is why you see people paying $250 for a single drill old one (double helix often even more).  But think they changed it so they can't put balls together frankenstein style like the Helixes any more.

now i'm curious.  i emailed brunswick, i'll let ya know if they respond haha

Cool keep me posted lol.  Would be neat to see them again even if my track is so low to not be able to make much use of it regardless.  Unique balls for sure.  Then again also heard Brunswick financially took a bit of bath on them the first time so who knows. 
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: DP3 on May 13, 2019, 03:06:17 PM
They can remake the Black Gold Helix as a Viz-A-Ball and it would sell a ton.

Helix Spare or whatever you wanna call it.
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: michael.willis9 on May 13, 2019, 08:59:50 PM
Dammit the teased the Helix before they said it was the vapor zone..... re-release the helix!!!!!!!!!

I thought I heard they couldn't make the helix the same way with the USBC manufacturing rules today.  It would be more like some Shadow Ops urethane/reactive hybrid more than likely instead.

ive heard stuff like that too... but nothing official.  and i'm pretty sure you can still use the helix so.... maybe its grandfathered in... who knows

Yeah its definitely grandfathered in which is why you see people paying $250 for a single drill old one (double helix often even more).  But think they changed it so they can't put balls together frankenstein style like the Helixes any more.

now i'm curious.  i emailed brunswick, i'll let ya know if they respond haha

Cool keep me posted lol.  Would be neat to see them again even if my track is so low to not be able to make much use of it regardless.  Unique balls for sure.  Then again also heard Brunswick financially took a bit of bath on them the first time so who knows.
I had one back in the day. I’d give my left nut to get one again.(not my right)
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: dougb on May 14, 2019, 06:09:45 PM
The subject of the Helix remakes came up here and other places a long time ago and you are correct USBC would not allow a new one. 
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: BeerLeague on September 10, 2019, 02:46:08 PM
They gave us a Vapor Zone solid ........... WHY? :o
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on September 10, 2019, 03:04:44 PM
Be nice or we'll soon see the Vintage Twisted Fury Solid <shiver>
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: SVstar34 on September 10, 2019, 03:24:27 PM
Be nice or we'll soon see the Vintage Twisted Fury Solid <shiver>

I'd doubt that. The Twisted Fury series wasnt real well liked. I liked my Twisted Fury and I think I'd actually get more use out of one now. It was definitely on the weaker side
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: michael.willis9 on September 11, 2019, 10:59:27 AM
Dammit the teased the Helix before they said it was the vapor zone..... re-release the helix!!!!!!!!!

I thought I heard they couldn't make the helix the same way with the USBC manufacturing rules today.  It would be more like some Shadow Ops urethane/reactive hybrid more than likely instead.

ive heard stuff like that too... but nothing official.  and i'm pretty sure you can still use the helix so.... maybe its grandfathered in... who knows

Yeah its definitely grandfathered in which is why you see people paying $250 for a single drill old one (double helix often even more).  But think they changed it so they can't put balls together frankenstein style like the Helixes any more.

now i'm curious.  i emailed brunswick, i'll let ya know if they respond haha

those d-bags never responded
Title: Re: New Vintage ball PLEASE
Post by: ignitebowling on September 11, 2019, 09:08:09 PM
Last I heard and I thought it was also posted on here was production cost to do the Helix would be $175ish a ball. That was 5 plus years ago.