Author Topic: Orig Inferno VS Rattler VS Python (Read 8645 times)

FrontTwelv · « **on:** August 24, 2009, 01:15:33 AM »

1st I'de like to say, JUST MAKE ANOTHER ORIG INFERNO...

Both the rattler and python look very tame, my OI is strong, even till this day. It has well over 500 games on it and it outhooks most of my bag.

I got to throw the rattler on a burnt 36ft sport shot, and it just seemed to wobble, not that strong OI roll. It has to do with the core?

anyone out there throw/have all three and can review them VS each other?
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ChrispyBrownies · « **Reply #16 on:** August 31, 2009, 05:43:38 PM »

lmao $150...obviously those pockets arent deep enough

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Burak Natal · « **Reply #17 on:** September 01, 2009, 02:14:44 AM »

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It was at least two years ago...I picked one up and drilled it, and it was *significantly* pushier and more angular than the original release was. In fact, I noticed this with the later Musky Infernos as well they didn't seem to want to read the mids nearly as much as the 2003 Infernos did.

Same here.. I have one original and two re-releases and reading the mids is the main difference. Re-releases are pushier (yes this is the correct word, much better than "longer" for this case) and smoother with less overall hook.

IME, with the same drillings, Rattler is longer and "significantly" sharper than re-release. Re-release is earlier, smoother and more continues, thus makes it more usable for me.

I keep one re-release in my tournament bag. Use it when I need something less than my Absolute but not as sharp as my TFD. For me, Rattler is either too strong or not enough read for most of the times. On the other hand, there is no doubt that the drilling I have chosen on my Rattler amplifies this also (5-1/2 from PAP, pin over, hole down VAL). I would prefer lower pin positions if I were to drill one again..

Hope this helps,
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FrontTwelv · « **Reply #18 on:** September 01, 2009, 08:01:41 AM »

I have 2 really orange-y pearly OIs and one hazy colored one with a lot of gray swirls. the two pearl ones roll amazing and the hazy one is good, but very condition specific. I'de try a re-release and adjust the cover accordingly if someone would come off one. My two pearl ones are going to start falling apart soon and I would like to find an alternative without spending a ton on a 'rare find'
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Columbus, OH

Edited on 9/1/2009 8:05 AM

FrontTwelv · « **Reply #19 on:** September 04, 2009, 07:11:57 PM »

what's the difference b/w the Smash Zone and Python?
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Drew Jordan
Columbus, OH

RSalas · « **Reply #20 on:** September 05, 2009, 11:36:42 AM »

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what's the difference b/w the Smash Zone and Python?

For me, the Python waits a few more feet than the Smash before it makes a move, but when it does, the move is more dramatic. This allows me to follow the oil line deeper with the Python as the lane condition breaks down.
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FrontTwelv · « **Reply #21 on:** September 09, 2009, 10:25:32 PM »

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For me, the Python waits a few more feet than the Smash before it makes a move, but when it does, the move is more dramatic. This allows me to follow the oil line deeper with the Python as the lane condition breaks down.

I ordered a smash, should be here tomorrow. I'll write up a side-by-side review for anyone who is interested. I will punch the smash the same as my (edit

favorite OI.
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Drew Jordan
Columbus, OH

Edited on 9/10/2009 7:58 AM

Buckwild · « **Reply #22 on:** September 09, 2009, 10:33:04 PM »

quote:
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For me, the Python waits a few more feet than the Smash before it makes a move, but when it does, the move is more dramatic. This allows me to follow the oil line deeper with the Python as the lane condition breaks down.

I ordered a smash, should be here tomorrow. I'll write up a side-by-side review for anyone who is interested. I will punch the smash the same as my OI.
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Drew Jordan
Columbus, OH

Very interested.

FrontTwelv · « **Reply #23 on:** September 23, 2009, 07:04:30 AM »

to buck and whoever cares...

i've gotten to throw this ball on a couple different conditions. On a med oil house shot it's got a similar roll to the OI but it's much weaker. On a heavier condition it actually gets into a roll earlier than one would think due to the lack-lustre performance on the med condition.

I definitly need to try a surface adj and go at it again. My fav OI is 500 ab w/ magic cut polish over it, sorta like ruff buff. I will try same surface on the Smash and see if that helps.
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Drew Jordan
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FrontTwelv · « **Reply #24 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:19:13 PM »

** UPDATE **

I''ve had it out of my bag 1/2 dozen times now. This is a disapointment so far, the ball just seems to hate ANY oil. I''ve had to take it down to 500 ab w/ shine to get ANY rxn out of it. My next move will be to take it up to 1000 with no shine. It''s a good dry lane ball, but not so good anywhere else...

buyer beware...
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Drew Jordan
Columbus, OH

Edited on 10/12/2009 1:34 PM

LotsaBalls · « **Reply #25 on:** October 13, 2009, 12:08:23 AM »

which ball are you speaking of.

agroves · « **Reply #26 on:** October 13, 2009, 06:54:52 AM »

I was given a Rattler, put my fav layout 4 1/2 by 3 1/2 on it. Super midlane read, trademark Brunswick hard arc. Whats not to like?

BrunsBob · « **Reply #27 on:** October 13, 2009, 07:32:12 AM »

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** UPDATE **

I''ve had it out of my bag 1/2 dozen times now. This is a disapointment so far, the ball just seems to hate ANY oil. I''ve had to take it down to 500 ab w/ shine to get ANY rxn out of it. My next move will be to take it up to 1000 with no shine. It''s a good dry lane ball, but not so good anywhere else...

buyer beware...
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Drew Jordan
Columbus, OH

What exactly do you mean by "buyer beware"? Beware of what? Did you choose the right ball for your game for the reaction you were looking for? Did you get the proper layout on that ball for the reaction you were looking for? What should the buyer beware of.....choosing the wrong ball, having the wrong layout, not playing the lanes properly for the ball choice made, or is it something else?

I have/had each of the balls you've talked about and each one of them had a place in my arsenal that was very useful. My Smash Zone was awesome for controlled hook on tougher conditions. My Rattler romps downlane, outhooking my Original Inferno. Of the Pythons I have, one is tame due to the layout choice I made, one is great in the midlane with a controlled breakpoint, and the other gets down the lane easy and moves great late, just not as much as the Rattler.

Regards,

RoB LaW

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FrontTwelv · « **Reply #28 on:** October 14, 2009, 01:47:45 PM »

the buyer beware is for us who are looking for a good OI replacement.
The ball rolls good, it just goes straight. I will keep it in my bag and replace my goto ball when the lanes are dry.

you need to read the topic and posts before making such a snyde remark buddy. check ur self fool!

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Drew Jordan
Columbus, OH

TWOHAND834 · « **Reply #29 on:** October 14, 2009, 04:23:17 PM »

Drew,

No disrespect intended. But you are telling a guy who is a winner on the PBA Tour and at least at one time, a ball rep for Brunswick to check himself. If there is anyone on here that knows the difference between all the Big B stuff, it is him.

Further more, he did come off a little harsh. So I will defend you on that one. But if there is anyone on here that can help us when it comes to Big B, it is Robert Lawrence.

Cover is 70% of ball reaction. With that being said, the Rattler has the same cover as the OI. I would just take a Rattler and knock the shine off, or wait until the Diamond back comes out which is a sanded, solid version of the same cover that was on the OI.

Do you know if there is a Brunswick demo in or near your town in the near future? If so, you can go toss all the new stuff and get an idea which will work for you.
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BrunsBob · « **Reply #30 on:** October 14, 2009, 07:07:51 PM »

I am still the Brunswick Rep for the Southwest. I did intend to come of a little snippy, not completely personally at Drew, just to the fact that sometimes people actually use their opinions about a balls reaction as gold on what a ball does or doesn''t do. If you watched the reaction of my 3 Pythons you would surely wonder which one is the "advertised" ball reaction it is supposed to have. As for the Rattler, the two I have both outhooked my Original Infernos, all with the same layouts and surface prep, so to say that the Rattler goes straight would not be accurate for most so they really wouldn''t need to beware.

I will apologize for the reaction I took on this topic and I''ll make an attempt to understand that every bowler will have their opinion of a ball and some will post that opinion based on their experience with that ball. Unfortunately, and I''m not saying that this is the case here, but some opinions are formed on false knowledge of all factors that create ball reaction, so to condemn a ball based on this gets me sometimes.

Regards,

Robert Lawrence
Product Specialist - SW
Brunswick Bowling - Consumer Division

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Edited on 10/14/2009 7:39 PM

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