Author Topic: Monster SlayR (Great Ball) (Read 1965 times)

captzap · « **on:** August 27, 2006, 01:07:52 AM »

I don't understand some of the negitive reviews about this ball. I recently purchased this ball and had it drilled up for the conditions I had been seeing lately. Mostly flying backends. However yesterday I had a thumb slug installed to change the thumb size and decided to give it a try on the lanes. Sat. youth league was just finishing up. Saw some of my old mixed league team mates there and decided to bowl with them. We were setup to bowl league style on 2 lanes. My 1st game was a 241 with only a pocket 8-10 that I missed. 2nd game was a 236 no opens and my 3rd game was 279 again a clean game. That's a 755 series my highest ever. The SlayR was prefect for me in these conditions. By the way these were only the 3rd, 4th & 5th games ever on the ball. Looks like I my try this ball on more conditions.

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charlest · « **Reply #1 on:** August 27, 2006, 09:36:07 AM »

Yes, the Slay/R can handle lots of dry. The core is medium strength and both it and the coverstock are very and easily modifiable. This ball seems to arc til doomsday.

Problem is that many people expect EVERY Brunswick ball to be an oiler or to do exactly what they want it to do, no matter what Brunswick says or what reviews say. Then another problem is "But I drilled it to go long and flip on heavy oil" sickness. WHo cares what you drilled it to do, buddy? The ball was not designed to handle heavy oil and it was never designed to have the potential to flip. Sigh ... some people never learn.
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mumzie · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2006, 11:59:48 AM »

I have one waiting to be drilled, courtesy of CG Matters. I can't wait to see what it does!!!
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charlest · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2006, 03:51:42 PM »

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I don't know, I had this ball and it was way inconsistent at the breakpoint for me. For me, the drier it gets, the higher RG core I need (likewise I like a medium RG core on medium oil most of the time, and low RG on heavier oil), so I've had much more success with a Dry/R (I've also done better with PowerBoost coverstocks than PowerKoil coverstocks). The Dry/R for me is more forgiving in that it always takes the same path to the pocket, where the SlayR didn't.
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That problem could have been caused my several items: drill, line played or oil pattern on which it was used. Maybe you need that higher RG for drier lanes, as you say. The cover on the Slay/R is very weak indeed, weaker than the PK 17 on the plain Power Groove.

I've used 2 different drills, 2 different weight and have changed the surface for more length.

Like all Brunswick pearls the stock surface is 400 grit plus their High Gloss polish. I took my 15 plb SLay'R sanded it to 800 grit and applied the HG polish. It got more length in order to handle more dry, and hooked less in the backend. I imagine you could take the grit to an even finer level, 1000, 1500 or more (plus polish) and this would allow the ball to be used on even less oil.

I even got caught once when the house tried to trick everyone at the end of the season by applying a medium-heavy oil pattern when all year long it had been medium-light. People using Ultimate infernos and sanded solid particle balls were lost. I piped it directly up the 10 board (10 board at the arrows and at the breakpoint) and while my carry wasn't great, I outscored the other 9 people on the pair that day, and I'm not a high average bowler.
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Joe Jr · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2006, 03:58:48 PM »

The SlayR is the only Brunswick ball that I truly disliked. I had 2, one under ring the other over bridge. It was the same thing everytime with the ball, line up in the dry and have the ball check up at 40 feet and go right. Move into the oil and miss the headpin to the left. Not once did I find a condition to give me a consistant read.
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charlest · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2006, 04:09:07 PM »

Joe,

What you're describing is typical over/under of a ball too strong or too weak for the oil pattern. I wonder if you just tried to use it on too much oil, with too much dry to the outside. I think its forte is when the lanes are old wood and the starting oil pattern is medium-light or lighter and then there's a 2nd shift.

My former house meets those criteria in spades!

As far as I have seen, this is not one of powerfull hitting balls. It's one that allows you to get to the pocket on tough conditions. It has never sent pins flying, but it often does the job when nothing else will or can.
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Joe Jr · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2006, 04:23:07 PM »

You are correct charlest it was over/under and the worst over/under i've ever had in a ball. I've thrown it on lighter coniditions where it should have been fine, but on these lighter conditions I couldn't get the ball down the lane, it wanted to rev up in the mids everytime.

To me it felt like the core was too strong for the cover.
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charlest · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2006, 06:27:44 PM »

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You are correct charlest it was over/under and the worst over/under i've ever had in a ball. I've thrown it on lighter coniditions where it should have been fine, but on these lighter conditions I couldn't get the ball down the lane, it wanted to rev up in the mids everytime.

To me it felt like the core was too strong for the cover.
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I must admit that many times, it seems to skip the "hook" part of the skid/hook/roll cycle and go directly from skid into roll. While I suspect that cuts down on the hitting power, for me, it seems to add a large dose of control.

While I have mostly used my new 16 lb SLay/R for a spare ball during the Summer, it is drilled stronger, 4x4, vs my 15 lb's 5x5. This seems to make a fairly large difference. BUT I don't know what the core differences are for this ball going from 15 to 16 lbs. Also right now my 15 is finished 800 grit + polsi, while the 16 is stock 400 grit + polish.

FWIW I kind of like the "normal" core in a very weak cover. (Oddly, I also like stronger covers in weak cores: high RG and low differential. But then, as you must know by now, I do things ... differently.)

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