Post by: MegaMav on August 21, 2005, 01:07:07 PM
any of you guys throw this?
what is the coverstock/core?
core stats look exactly like the original inferno
with the .050 diff and 2.6 RG
i have no idea what the coverstock is.
obviously weaker than the inferno.
what drilling suggestions would you have?
here is the ball characteristics chart
http://images.marketworks.com/hi/56/55791/hook_scale.jpg
here is the ball image
http://images.marketworks.com/hi/56/55791/quantum_elite_1.jpg
http://images.marketworks.com/hi/56/55791/quantum_elite_2.jpg
looks like a dry lane ball to me.
i could be wrong though.
thanks!
Eric
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Brunswick
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Post by: MarvinsSkeleton on August 21, 2005, 09:18:59 PM
http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2173 (http://"http://www.bowlingballreviews.com/ball.asp?ballid=2173")
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Post by: MegaMav on August 21, 2005, 09:27:45 PM
the RG/DIFF numbers dont match.
interesting info with the yellow dot coverstock.
ive looked at the bowlingballreviews page, seems very grey in regards to details.
any more info?
drilling suggestions?
Eric
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Brunswick
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Post by: MegaMav on August 21, 2005, 09:45:14 PM
since its a weak ball, should it be drilled aggressive?
i couldnt go wrong with buying this ball... its a quantum!
i got it for $38.55 shipped.
i requested 3" pin 2.7-3.2 top
is the coverstock reactive resin?
the characteristics chart says 135 length, 80 hook potential.
thats certainly stronger than urethane or the softest plastics.
Eric
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Brunswick
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Post by: MegaMav on August 21, 2005, 10:15:14 PM
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Post by: a_ak57 on August 21, 2005, 10:22:24 PM
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Post by: MegaMav on August 21, 2005, 10:25:35 PM
expect to pay around $40-$45 shipped.
alot cheaper than the XXXL.
i dunno if you've dealt with Keith Spear and bowlingball.com
but he's a great guy and matches your spec request the best he can.
usually gets to me 5 days after payment.
Eric
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Brunswick
Lane #1
Post by: louie on August 22, 2005, 07:01:36 AM
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Why does everyone laugh when I bowl?
louie
Post by: BigWillyStyle on August 22, 2005, 07:15:29 AM
quote:
Power Groove DryR weak.
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And Louie, I was contemplating getting one of these last year at a pro shop down south, and while talking to the driller there, he stated that it was a plastic coverstock with a weightblock similar to the original Inferno. Just going off what he said. It's a sharp ball, but I wasn't paying $129 bucks for a plastic that really wouldn't be diff. from my Shamrock 99% of the time!
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Post by: bowler04 on August 22, 2005, 05:12:21 PM
Post by: MegaMav on August 22, 2005, 05:29:01 PM
Hi Tom,
where would you put the BTV Quantum Elite LE Ball on the ball
comparison chart?
it sounds like it has an Original Inferno Core with a weaker Coverstock?
do you have any other information on this ball?
thanks for all the help!
Eric
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Hi Eric
Yes you are right ...........Inferno Core ........Tammer cover stock
..............my guess would H-7 or I-7 .......
I hope this helps you .....
If you have any other questions ....Please call or write me ....
Thanks
Tom Tomaras
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Post by: MegaMav on August 23, 2005, 03:11:23 PM
any idea what coverstock it is Tom?
thanks!
Eric
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PowerKoil 14 ........
If you have any other questions ....Please call or write me ....
Thanks
Tom Tomaras
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Brunswick
Lane #1
Post by: MegaMav on August 23, 2005, 03:14:19 PM
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Brunswick
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Post by: RSalas on August 23, 2005, 03:21:00 PM
quote:
any other balls use powerkoil 14?
IIRC, the original Rhino Pro Teal used this cover.
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Post by: MegaMav on August 23, 2005, 03:47:18 PM
what kind of reaction would you expect on a THS?
i bet this thing will retain A TON of energy for the pocket.
sounds like a_ak57 was right, its brunswick's dry/spare ball tank!
Eric
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Brunswick
Lane #1
Post by: BrunZwick on August 23, 2005, 03:52:54 PM
Post by: louie on August 23, 2005, 04:10:42 PM
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Why does everyone laugh when I bowl?
louie
Post by: Mankow on August 23, 2005, 04:22:41 PM
It has a N Control coverstock and the core is almost the same as the original Inferno.
I tend to believe them since as far as I know they commissioned to have the balls made by Brunswick. But everytime anyone mentions this ball a big brou-ha-ha begins and everyone yells at each other. Everyone has heard something different from somebody "in the know". Be it a distributor, someone on Brunswick's pro staff, or whatever. I can definitely say that it is not polyester. I have a huge collection of plastic balls and the cover that is on it is definitely not a Brunswick polyester. Being "reminiscent" is completely different from being the same thing. If it was plastic they would say plastic. They use the term reminiscent because the ball doesn't act like a typical modern reactive ball. The weak cover and low RG core mean that the ball does not jerk when it hits the dry. It is extremely stable and very good for med dry to dry conditions. This is what is meant by Reminiscent of the Yellow Dot.
It has a weak cover but hits very well on dry because it doesn't burn up. I have mine polished to about 5000. It looks like a mirror. I use it on complete toast in this condition. When I took it down to 600 and hit it with Perfect-It it was much stronger, but not crazy. I didn't like it with that surface prep because it rolled funky. The core would overpower the cover and it hit like a marshmallow.
It is basically a really good "condition specific" ball. Much like Track's new Desert Heat. You can't use it on everything, but on drier lanes it is a good choice.
Mankow
Post by: MegaMav on August 23, 2005, 05:46:23 PM
there is always someone that talks out of their āss,
fights about it, imposes will..
and gets blown up by people that actually know what they are talking about.
i dunno where his doctorate is from, its certainly not in equipment
doctor đickhead is more like it...
anyway, i plan on having this ball rot in my closet for a while, ill get it matched up with my quantum fire and red alert plus.
anyone have drilling recommendations?
Eric
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Average: 211
Brunswick
Lane #1
Post by: senior citizen on August 23, 2005, 06:09:28 PM
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Post by: a_ak57 on August 23, 2005, 06:12:39 PM
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Post by: MegaMav on August 25, 2005, 04:04:39 PM
i got it today from UPS and i opened the box and it was covered in a slick substance that was all over the ball, protective bag and the box.
i wiped it off with brunswick remove all cleaner and simple green.
the box was all greasy lookin...
it hasnt been hot here the past week, so i dont think heat did anything to the ball.
Eric
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Average: 211
Brunswick
Lane #1
Post by: MegaMav on August 25, 2005, 08:05:05 PM
(see picture link in profile)
Eric
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Brunswick
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Post by: a_ak57 on August 25, 2005, 09:45:39 PM
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- Andy
Post by: MegaMav on August 25, 2005, 09:48:37 PM
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Brunswick
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Post by: a_ak57 on August 25, 2005, 09:49:47 PM
quote:
a_ak57, did yours arive in the same condition mine came in?
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Brunswick- Original Inferno (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/inferno.htm")
- Combat Zone Tracer (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/combatzone.htm")
- Danger Zone Black (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/dangerzone.htm")
- Quantum Fire (Undrilled) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/fire.htm")
- Quantum Elite LE (Undrilled) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/elite.htm")
- Red Alert Plus (Undrilled) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/redalertplus.htm")
- Time Zone (Undrilled) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/timezone.htm")
- Blazing Inferno (Undrilled & FOR SALE) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/blazinginferno.htm")
Lane #1- Uranium Pearl (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/uranium.htm")
- H2O (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/h2o.htm")
Nah, I haven't got mine yet. Should get it very soon though. But why, is there something wrong with yours??
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Post by: MegaMav on August 25, 2005, 09:51:36 PM
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Brunswick
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Post by: a_ak57 on August 25, 2005, 09:53:25 PM
quote:
read above...
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Brunswick- Original Inferno (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/inferno.htm")
- Combat Zone Tracer (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/combatzone.htm")
- Danger Zone Black (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/dangerzone.htm")
- Quantum Fire (Undrilled) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/fire.htm")
- Quantum Elite LE (Undrilled) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/elite.htm")
- Red Alert Plus (Undrilled) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/redalertplus.htm")
- Time Zone (Undrilled) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/timezone.htm")
- Blazing Inferno (Undrilled & FOR SALE) (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/blazinginferno.htm")
Lane #1- Uranium Pearl (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/uranium.htm")
- H2O (http://"http://members.fortunecity.com/megamav/h2o.htm")
Ah, I see. Interesting. I'll be sure to tell you as soon as I get it.
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Post by: MegaMav on August 25, 2005, 09:54:12 PM
the plastic bag that it comes in?
or the residue that comes out of it?
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Post by: MegaMav on August 25, 2005, 10:03:02 PM
this thing was covered in liquid when i got it.
it feels like vegetable oil.
smells like nothing.
this ball is going to be interesting when i get it drilled.
it probably wont be drilled for a year, so a_ak57 you'll have to let me know how it performs for you after you get it drilled.
i think if this cover is really PK14 you might want to get it drilled just like my uranium with the pin closer to your midline (pic in sig).
i still think it will break late, just needs a little help turning over.
i have it totally clean, and i grab it with my hand and its not nearly as tacky (porous) as my inferno.
i think pin over your fingers will be a problem, i really think length drillings with this are out of the question.
there are a couple of people in this thread that have it drilled, maybe they'll chime in with what works for them.
Eric
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Brunswick
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Edited on 8/25/2005 9:55 PM
Post by: charlest on August 26, 2005, 05:35:25 AM
quote:quote:
any other balls use powerkoil 14?
IIRC, the original Rhino Pro Teal used this cover.
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In case anyone knows it, the Danger Zone Touring Ediiton 2 (green pin) also used PowrKoil 14.
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Post by: BigWillyStyle on August 28, 2005, 03:59:53 PM
Big Willy Style
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