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Jay

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Big B Covers
« on: October 07, 2009, 07:34:48 PM »
In the current line, there are balls that share covers either with other current balls or past balls.  I'm talking about ConneXion, Activator, Enmotion, and PK18 specifically.  I'm just wondering if anyone can tell me the order in which these covers would go from strongest to weakest.
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Re: Big B Covers
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2009, 03:42:10 AM »
What is "strong"? If you think of responsiveness to the dry, I'd rate PK18 the smoothest/earliest, followed by Activator and the EnMotion. Not sure about ConneXion, since I lack experience with it, but I feel that it should fall between Activator and EnMotion.

That said, this NOT a rating to actually call a coverstock absolutely stronger than another. It is more (a subjective) order about how early a coverstock builds up traction, or fast it responds to friction (for a sharper breakpoint). There are many ways to cover X boards.

Sure, surface prep and the coere inside will also have impact.
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kidlost2000

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Re: Big B Covers
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2009, 06:07:29 AM »
Plus most of the balls are a mix or covers. I think you really have to go off of the overall hook rating of the ball on their chart.


The Python is the first ball with EnMotion coverstock available at the Advanced Performance price point. The Python uses a Pearlized version of the EnMotion coverstock. EnMotion combines the best elements from our PowrKoil™, Activator® and N'Control™ coverstock systems.
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Re: Big B Covers
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2009, 09:23:28 AM »
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Plus most of the balls are a mix or covers. I think you really have to go off of the overall hook rating of the ball on their chart.


The Python is the first ball with EnMotion coverstock available at the Advanced Performance price point. The Python uses a Pearlized version of the EnMotion coverstock. EnMotion combines the best elements from our PowrKoil™, Activator® and N'Control™ coverstock systems.



Honestly, I would not put too much into this marketing statement. But I'd admit that EnMotion - at least the standard pearlized stuff - reminds me much of the N'Control coverstock family, just with better oil handling capabilities. But from the overall reaction and response to wet/dry, both are IMO very similar.
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Jay

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Re: Big B Covers
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2009, 01:48:03 AM »
Stronger = stand deeper in my book.

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Plus most of the balls are a mix or covers. I think you really have to go off of the overall hook rating of the ball on their chart.
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Would you guys say that their chart and their hook ratings are accurate on a comparative level(with other Big B balls)?
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Re: Big B Covers
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2009, 03:01:39 AM »
In general: yes. But they had in recent times some balls which had very optimistic hook potential and breakpoint shape ratings. I'd prefer the chart, though, because it yields IMHO a good overview for relative utilities at OOb finish. Just an indication, but the concept is good.
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Re: Big B Covers
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2009, 08:30:21 PM »
Just as a reminder about how our chart is developed. All balls are thrown by Throbot in their "out of box" finish with the same layouts. As with any/all balls, they can move all over the chart by changing both of those factors. We just use the chart as a guide in how to choose the right ball to start with so that it minimizes the need for overly exotic layouts.

We always state "Don't try to make a ball do something it was not designed to do, rather, choose the ball that is meant to do what you are looking for a ball to do". I think it's best for each bowler to come up with two favorite Symetrical layouts and two favorite Asymetrical layouts and stick with those and just try them in different balls with different surfaces.

Hope that helps,

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Re: Big B Covers
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2009, 09:16:00 PM »
I agree with Brunswicks ratings for equipment. I use it plus the archives to compare current balls with older ones. That way I can have a good idea of what the ball is intended to do, and compare it with others I''''ve already drilled. I then have a better image of what the ball is designed to do, and try to match that to a drill pattern accordingly.

My current chart for what I have, drilled and undrilled.(I use for reference)

Ultimate Inferno
HP 150      Len 55      BP 60      FP .050      RG avg 2.6

Chance Zone
HP 160      Len 65      BP 65      FP .042      RG avg 3.4

Solid Zone
HP 155      Len 90      BP 75      FP .056      RG avg 3.7

Red Alert
HP 140      Len 90      BP 75      FP .044      RG avg 2.8

Kick Zone   
HP  125      Len 105      BP 85      FP .049      RG avg 5.1

Cold Fury
HP 125      Len 130      BP 85      FP .036      RG avg 3.8

Avalanche
HP 80      Len 145      BP 75      FP .024      RG avg 4.2


We always state "Don''''t try to make a ball do something it was not designed to do, rather, choose the ball that is meant to do what you are looking for a ball to do".

That is so true for any bowling ball, and so often over looked and the blame for why something doesn''t roll good in most cases. Not every ball out there is designed to go long and hook, but that is what most people ask for.
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Edited on 10/9/2009 9:17 PM
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Re: Big B Covers
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2009, 03:46:39 AM »
Thanks for the info guys, and some good points have been made also.
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