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Pahataun

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Something for the dry/played lanes?
« on: June 23, 2007, 12:51:24 AM »
I recently played at a local tournament where in the finals the lane got so dry that my factory finished smoking got too strong and i needed something that would slide further, but my radical inferno didn't have any hitting power... i have been thinking about bvp rampage for a long time, does anyone have any other suggestions for me? i have about 23-25km/h ball speed and maybe 300rpm...
i have smokin inferno, radical inferno, vapour zone, elite blue alien, action max, lanemasters kong, power groove reactive, bvp goliath,
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2007, 04:53:52 PM »
Loft enough said
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #17 on: June 23, 2007, 05:39:45 PM »
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zmansmustang

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #18 on: June 23, 2007, 10:03:00 PM »
I say cut it down the middle and find a urethane ball. would be perfect, I still have an amf sumo that is about 15 years old. I still use it even on regular patterns. when I came back to bowling 3 years ago, this was my main ball and avg'd 217that year. just saying urethane is still valuable for todays game and probably for a long time to come. but I also agree he should have tried his power dry/r.
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2007, 10:08:53 PM »
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I'm not understanding something -

Why is everyone insisting he use a Dry/R or a plastic ball, when he never even attempted to try the Power Groove Reactive (probably the pearl), which is MUCH milder than the Rampage or ANY Inferno???

Why? Why? Why?????

Nobody knows how dry it really was if all he tried was a Smoking Inf. and  Radical Inf.
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The Power Groove is much stronger than most people give it credit for, so if the lanes are truely dry then its going to be too much ball. I own both a Radical Inferno and a Power Groove and the Radical isn't much stronger than the Power Groove. The original question was which ball would be best for dry lanes and in my opinion the Groove Dry/R is much better suited for the dry.
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BrunsBob

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2007, 12:08:50 AM »
"Bruns you are wrong about what u said".

John D. Davis, what part of my post was wrong.....was it the whole thing? I'm still learning most of this stuff, so please bear with me.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2007, 01:53:01 AM »
John D. Davis you've not entered a profile..

However, your views sound very much like that of the head honcho over at Kegel, John Davis.

Whether or not you are one in the same....I don't know...

In regards to your views on throwing plastic, I completely agree. Recently at the CNCs (Canadian National Championships) the conditions we encountered were similar to those put down by Kegel at various FIQ tournament, a long and a short pattern (though slightly easier due to the design and to the lane surface).

While I only witnessed one bowler score well with plastic, myself along with many others including Brunswick Staffer Corey Clayton (who I bowled with on day 2) scored well around the gutter throwing urethane.

Basically, I'm just saying that on similar conditions plastic and urethane often offer more room than reactive and can carry as well, if not better under the right conditions.

Just my 2 cents based on my experiences....

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2007, 06:23:46 AM »
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quote:
I'm not understanding something -

Why is everyone insisting he use a Dry/R or a plastic ball, when he never even attempted to try the Power Groove Reactive (probably the pearl), which is MUCH milder than the Rampage or ANY Inferno???

Why? Why? Why?????

Nobody knows how dry it really was if all he tried was a Smoking Inf. and  Radical Inf.
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The Power Groove is much stronger than most people give it credit for, so if the lanes are truely dry then its going to be too much ball. I own both a Radical Inferno and a Power Groove and the Radical isn't much stronger than the Power Groove. The original question was which ball would be best for dry lanes and in my opinion the Groove Dry/R is much better suited for the dry.
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BUT the point was and is the PG is still weaker than ANY Inferno, clearing the heads MUCH more easily and HE ALREADY HAS A POWER GROOVE!!!

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alloutsmith3

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2007, 10:02:52 PM »
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quote:
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I'm not understanding something -

Why is everyone insisting he use a Dry/R or a plastic ball, when he never even attempted to try the Power Groove Reactive (probably the pearl), which is MUCH milder than the Rampage or ANY Inferno???

Why? Why? Why?????

Nobody knows how dry it really was if all he tried was a Smoking Inf. and  Radical Inf.
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"None are so blind as those who will not see."



The Power Groove is much stronger than most people give it credit for, so if the lanes are truely dry then its going to be too much ball. I own both a Radical Inferno and a Power Groove and the Radical isn't much stronger than the Power Groove. The original question was which ball would be best for dry lanes and in my opinion the Groove Dry/R is much better suited for the dry.
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BUT the point was and is the PG is still weaker than ANY Inferno, clearing the heads MUCH more easily and HE ALREADY HAS A POWER GROOVE!!!

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I'm not trying to start an argument here, I'm just saying what my opinion is based on my experiences with my PG. If I hit what I consider dry then there is no way I could use my PG and the Dry/R has to come out of the bag.
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alloutsmith3

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2007, 10:25:30 PM »
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I'm still learning most of this stuff, so please bear with me.

RoB LaW

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2007, 02:28:02 PM »
I play at a center with wood lanes and guardian overlay.  Recently their oil machine broke so they've had really, really dry conditions.  The whole middle section, from boards 10 onwards was dry.  Once it hit the midlane, it made a B-line to the left gutter. None of my reactive or particle balls would work.  Plastic would even hook.  I was forced to play the 1-5 boards on the outside with a plastic ball since it didn't overreact.  There was not much dry on these boards so I was able to keep it in play through the heads and midlane.  I was able to get my plastic ball to hook at the backends without it being uncontrollable.  It was impossible to do crosslane shots to hit the 10 pin because anything hitting the middle of the lane would hook.

The plastic did carry.
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Pahataun

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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2007, 04:02:07 AM »
well you guys have been really helpful, i see that most people recommend dry/r...
answer to the question about me using my pg reactive pearl i did use it but it was stronger then the radical... i have it drilled to hook early too so i think that was my problem... radical again is drilled to hook late...
i am now in between finding a punisher witch i have seen played well on dry lanes, and buying a dry/r which i think is easyer to find...
And one other thing, pg reactive is one of the meanest hooking balls in my mind
just add a little more hand to it and you get a great ball for longer oil patterns!! and the spin it has really makes the pins fly!
thanks alot to all who had time to help a amateur bowler!
I'll let you know what i decide and how i am satisfied with it.
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2007, 04:06:22 AM »
As an alternative to a Punisher, you might also consider MoRioch's Sahara. Same coverstock, but a medium mass bias asymmetrical core. Yields a very different reaction from the Punisher, and has IMO more punch on the same light conditions. But it could be too much for what you are planning with new ball, so it just an idea.
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Re: Something for the dry/played lanes?
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2007, 05:50:41 AM »
If you don't wanna go for plastic, I have had very good success with my BVP Punisher drilled weak.  Has lots of pop on the backend and hitting power to spare.
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