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Equipment Boards => Brunswick => Topic started by: Urethane Game on April 05, 2016, 07:32:23 AM
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Hi,
I noticed that Buddies is selling Strike Kings at closeout prices. Does anyone know if there are going to be color changes or will they be replaced altogether?
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Best bang for the buck.Here in the dry houseshot south.Thats all you need.I have 2 different colors one drilled pin down and one pin up.If they are closing them out grab a couple while you can.
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I've got a couple of Slingshots, one drilled pin-up and the other pin-down, so I've not been as tempted to get a(ny) Strike King(s). But I would venture to agree it's probably a very good value much like the Ringer series was.
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I'm probably going to pick one up. Hope they're not going away. Definitely kills friction environments (most house shots and broken down patterns.)
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I'll answer my own question: http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/rhino-black-pearl/
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Looks like an old Columbia Beast. Should be great for broken down patterns. Personally, I love the Strike King, though! I also have one pin up and one pin down. I have scored very well in tournaments with these balls.
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Strike king is discontinued. The NEW Rhinos are taking its place
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Strike king is discontinued. The NEW Rhinos are taking its place
I think we've all figured that out now
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Strike king is discontinued. The NEW Rhinos are taking its place
I think we've all figured that out now
Word on the street from my sources say there will be a rhino ball, 5 colors. Jk Bahahahahaha
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Although I have 1 for sell if anyone is interested in a 15 pounder.
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I picked up one for $40 from Buddies a few days ago. Just got back from throwing it the first time. Hopefully it looks better on a sport shot (or possible a fresh house shot), but it's much stronger than I expected (just like every other "weak" modern ball that I've bought). I was hoping this would take the place of two light oils balls that I don't care for. Both my Wicked Siege (lots of games on it, but keep it refreshed often) and Yeti got down lane easier (and had more hook down lane which I expected). With the Strike King I was left of 4th arrow. Any further right and as soon as it hit the dry it took an immediate left turn. We'll see how it looks Sunday on the Nationals pattern...
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I picked up one for $40 from Buddies a few days ago. Just got back from throwing it the first time. Hopefully it looks better on a sport shot (or possible a fresh house shot), but it's much stronger than I expected (just like every other "weak" modern ball that I've bought). I was hoping this would take the place of two light oils balls that I don't care for. Both my Wicked Siege (lots of games on it, but keep it refreshed often) and Yeti got down lane easier (and had more hook down lane which I expected). With the Strike King I was left of 4th arrow. Any further right and as soon as it hit the dry it took an immediate left turn. We'll see how it looks Sunday on the Nationals pattern...
That's bizarre in the extreme.
My SK goes longer than any other resin I own, including the Tropical Breeze hybrid and my older Brunswick balls: Slingshot, Loaded Revolver, and Anaconda (highly polished).
Are you sure your SK came polished?
Are you sure your Wicked siege and Yeti don't need an oil extraction?
I can't see the reason for what you're observing with the SK.
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That's why I was surprised/disappointed. I already have several "light oil" balls and most of them force you too far left, but then don't have the goods to come back with enough authority. I really wanted something I could play straighter closer to the friction.
Yes, the Strike King is polished like you'd expect OOB. The Wicked Siege was extracted 2-3 weeks ago and hasn't seen a lot of action since. I've never done anything to the Yeti. I just had the (new) pro shop re-do the thumb. I didn't throw it much since I got it (50 games max) because it seemed very condition specific (I've only bowled sport shots the last 3-4 years), but part of that may have been that I was never very happy with the thumb - I'd throw it OK during a practice session, but never really trusted it when league would start. I'll throw both Sunday on a fresh Nationals pattern - hopefully that will clear things up.
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That's why I was surprised/disappointed. I already have several "light oil" balls and most of them force you too far left, but then don't have the goods to come back with enough authority. I really wanted something I could play straighter closer to the friction.
Yes, the Strike King is polished like you'd expect OOB. The Wicked Siege was extracted 2-3 weeks ago and hasn't seen a lot of action since. I've never done anything to the Yeti. I just had the (new) pro shop re-do the thumb. I didn't throw it much since I got it (50 games max) because it seemed very condition specific (I've only bowled sport shots the last 3-4 years), but part of that may have been that I was never very happy with the thumb - I'd throw it OK during a practice session, but never really trusted it when league would start. I'll throw both Sunday on a fresh Nationals pattern - hopefully that will clear things up.
I have nothing left in my bag of tricks that can explain this.
As far as going long and still have something left on the backend for very light oil, the 2 best balls I have used are the Strike King and the Deep Freeze. The DF handles a bit more oil and has not as much length but more backend than the SK. If it makes any difference, both the SK and the DF are drilled pin in the ring for my 5x0 PAP. The next up more even reacting ball for light oil is my Tropical Breeze (now the Trop Storm) Hybrid.
(These seem to work for my rev-dominant style. If you're a matched speed/revs bowler, then you'd need stronger pearls/hybrids with more backend. Possibly the Motiv Graffiti Tag - for polished solid it gets great length and a strong consistent large backend.)
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You've got new ballitis. Put a few more games onto your strike king and it will calm down
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That's what I'm hoping. Maybe the brand new cover is just seeing the friction super hard. However, I thought the same thing about my (burgundy) Ringer, but it still seems to read friction in a bad way. Too strong to play near the friction, not enough to move deep and swing it a lot (at least with my rev rate). I've thought about redrilling it, but when a ball seems to not match your game, I'm not sure it's worth chancing another $50.
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Add a hole to your ringer
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I think maybe its the new summer bowling disease No OILlitis very common in the south.I can cover 30 boards with my Strike King.Sure hope winter comes fast.I really want to throw my new Mastermind Strategy have not even took it out of the box yet.
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I added a hole to the Ringer; I still don't like it. Too strong for the light/short shots, too weak for the long/heavy. I've tried everything from finely sanded + polish to pretty dull and everything in between.
I bowl on sports shots - summer & winter, so there's always a reasonable amount of oil. I really hope the Strike King looks better with some fresh oil or after it gets a few games on it.
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i missed out on the close out, but after reading this maybe I didn't.
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Much better today. Supposed to be the Nationals pattern, but the lane guy said it was Viper. He's pretty new and doesn't program the machine. I'm hoping they saved the Nationals pattern in the Viper slot since the machine only saves a handful of patterns. The Strike King got down very easily and made a pretty predictable move at the end of the pattern. The ball still lopes more than I'd like - not sure if it from the drilling or the nature of the ball (rg min = 2.58, rg max = 2.61). The pin is about 2 1/2" from my axis, but a little above the fingers, CG almost at grip center.
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I'd say it was the nature of the SK to lope long. As I mentioned above, it's the longest resin I own, including a Slingshot. I'd suggest it handles as light an oil these days that a resin can handle. Some older balls, of course, can handle less.
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Much better today. Supposed to be the Nationals pattern, but the lane guy said it was Viper. He's pretty new and doesn't program the machine. I'm hoping they saved the Nationals pattern in the Viper slot since the machine only saves a handful of patterns. The Strike King got down very easily and made a pretty predictable move at the end of the pattern. The ball still lopes more than I'd like - not sure if it from the drilling or the nature of the ball (rg min = 2.58, rg max = 2.61). The pin is about 2 1/2" from my axis, but a little above the fingers, CG almost at grip center.
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Sounds like my scream super lopey. My shout is much better, and I got a loco solid (thank God) in the mail as I type!
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Strider, I have experienced something similar to you on "weak" reactives. I remember getting a Punisher for dryer lanes and broken down tournament shots. Unfortunately, when that ball saw friction, it was left turn. I had to play significantly deeper with that ball than any of my Infernos or Zones at the time. As you alluded to, allergic to oil and violent on friction.
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Strider, I have experienced something similar to you on "weak" reactives. I remember getting a Punisher for dryer lanes and broken down tournament shots. Unfortunately, when that ball saw friction, it was left turn. I had to play significantly deeper with that ball than any of my Infernos or Zones at the time. As you alluded to, allergic to oil and violent on friction.
Ah, forever the dilemma. Many balls will lope easily thru light oil or very dry heads, but it's what they do on the backend that can make or break the bowler. Sometimes you want/need a stronger backend: Strike King, Deep Freeze, Joy Ride, etc. Sometimes you need/want much less of a backend: Slingshot, Tropical Breeze Hybrid, Blue/Green Centaur, (new) Blue Hammer, etc.
You've got to know what the ball is designed to do, not just buy one because someone else likes it.
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Strider, I have experienced something similar to you on "weak" reactives. I remember getting a Punisher for dryer lanes and broken down tournament shots. Unfortunately, when that ball saw friction, it was left turn. I had to play significantly deeper with that ball than any of my Infernos or Zones at the time. As you alluded to, allergic to oil and violent on friction.
Ah, forever the dilemma. Many balls will lope easily thru light oil or very dry heads, but it's what they do on the backend that can make or break the bowler. Sometimes you want/need a stronger backend: Strike King, Deep Freeze, Joy Ride, etc. Sometimes you need/want much less of a backend: Slingshot, Tropical Breeze Hybrid, Blue/Green Centaur, (new) Blue Hammer, etc.
You've got to know what the ball is designed to do, not just buy one because someone else likes it.
That's why I have a breeze and blue.