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shepd1999

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Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« on: April 23, 2006, 12:21:29 PM »
Went to my favorite Pro-Shop looking to finish my arsenal. Need a Heavy oil ball as I plan next season to be my first serious year in tournaments. I am a Huge Big B fan and Love the Inferno line to death.

right now i have an arsenal that is this

Heavy:
Med-Heavy: This Years PBA Ball
Medium/ Med-Light: Last years which took place of my old OI (Benchmark Ball)
Light: Smokin Inferno
Viz-A-ball and Ice for spears

So I was going to get a Scorchin Inferno when The guy tells me its a medium oil ball. Everyone here has had sucess with it on Heavy and thats what Big B says it is for. The Guy says I really should go with a big one. But i want to stay with the inferno Line as I have Had my best sucess with them.  So what is this guy thinking telling me Scorching doesnt handel Heavy oil.

 

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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2006, 08:29:38 PM »
I don't know if I'd go with Medium Oil ball, but he might be telling you this from personal experience.  I had a Scorchin' and a lot of other guys I know had one and sold it with in a week of buying it.  I didn't like mine AT ALL.  I know on Medium Oil it didn't do a thing, so I don't agree with his way of thinking there.

Telling you to go with the Big One wasn't bad, everyone I know who has one loves it!
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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2006, 08:45:14 PM »
Well, I just bought a Scorchin Inferno, gonna be interesting to see what it will do on a sport shot and house shot. I'll post a review on it in a few months. Summer leauges start in about 2-3 weeks.
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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2006, 08:47:13 PM »
Could also be the shop operator doesn't like Brunswick.  When I was throwing Brunswick equipment the original Inferno was just about to come out.  I said I needed a ball for medium to medium dry conditions.  He directed me away from the Inferno and to an X Factor Deuce.  The Deuce was a so so ball for me, eventually got the Inferno, and absolutely loved it, like most people did.  He said he was unimpressed with the Fuze line (I know, I'm going a little while back here), he said he didn't like selling Brunswick's and felt better about Storm, Ebonite, or Columbia in his shop.  This was in one of the centers in a Vegas hotel also.  So as a personal preference he tried to sway people away from a company he personally didn't care for.  Not really the way to do business, as I would have saved some money if I had gotten the Inferno in the first place, but live and learn I suppose.  You're going to them for their opinion, and I guess that's part of the chance you take.

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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2006, 08:54:05 PM »
well I doubt they dont like to sell Brunswick because except the Ice all balls I have got from and recomenned by them have been Big B. Smokin Inferno was suggested by them about 2 months ago and I love it as my Late Second game and Third Game Ball

Maybe your idea is right and they dont care for the Scorchin Inferno

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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2006, 08:58:55 PM »
BrunsRich  I understand that completely as with this year PBA ball if its to dry it dies and nevers comes close to the pocket. But It was suggested for most tournaments I should Get a Heavy oil ball cause most see more oil then a normal house shot. So i am looking to prepare myself for tournaments. This Year I have Pushed myself to a 210 avg and want to try and make some money.  I know it will not be easy

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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2006, 09:13:18 PM »
Hate To ask this question then  should i go with the Big One over the Scorchin  Even though I am a huge Brunswick fan????

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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2006, 09:19:59 PM »
If you read up in this post, another person said "The reason the One and Big One are more popular are because they are similar to the Zone series where they are a slightly higher RG and therefore shows more reaction in the back part of the lane." Curtosy of BrunsRich.
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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2006, 09:24:07 PM »
Yes I have seen many oil hawgs not perform well on medium oil shots.  That is because they need the head oil.  I can tell you, I put some polish on the Scorchin' and it reacted much better for me.

I'm not telling you to buy the Scorchin' or go with the Big One, but I know people have been happier with the Big One.
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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2006, 10:02:42 PM »
A lot of time people go to a tournament and find out they don't have any ball to match up the lane, yes they  can still score, but just that sometime that 1 game you can't match up you can't make the cut, that might be your 150s game.  Scorchin definitely hard to match up on the THS, but I am sure you would appreciate the nice roll when you see some oil in some tournament.  You might not be able to use it in any of your league, but I am sure you have enough balls for league.  If you trust your proshop guy, I rather go for the One rather then the Big One.

Again, if you really preparing for tournament season, you also need to plan on your layout, not only diff typeof ball.

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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2006, 10:27:09 AM »
I know this is off topic but talking to a guy that has coached me. He tells me I should try to add a partical ball into the arsenal also. So what ball would you recommend for me to get. I really want to have my new arsenal prepared before august and need to figure out how much cash i will need to get it complete. Thank you for all your help thus far.

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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2006, 11:20:33 AM »
As for the Scorchin vs. the Big One I agree with what BrunsricH said, so if your looking for a big move on the backend maybe the Big One is the way to go, but also if you want to stay with Brunswick maybe try a Strike Zone. It may not hook quite as much as a Big One but it could give you a big backend reaction if that's what your looking for. As far as a particle ball goes I would highly recommend the Impulse Zone. It's an awesome ball and since they're on their way out you should be able to pick one up for a good price.

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Re: Mis-Leading Pro-Shop guy?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2006, 12:53:48 PM »
Ok, here it is, easy to understand.  The Scorchin is not the type of heavy oil ball that's going to munch through everything and hook at 30 feet.  This is the type of ball that gives you a lot of hook without being over/under.  I didn't really like mine either, but that's beside the point.  The ball has incredible length and will come back from anywhere if you give it a tad extra time to rev up.  It's not going to be jumpy.  I had the same look from 2nd arrow as I did from 5th arrow with mine.  The key is to not launch the ball and just expect it to hook.  For me, it had the same look as my Smokin does.  If you get too firm with it, it's going to act weak unless you just have a lot of dry to work with.  However, if you get a little softer and give it that chance to rev and start moving, it'll hook from anywhere.  

So basically it IS a heavy oil ball with a different look than normal heavy oil balls.  This is a ball you can be softer and smoother with that will be very consistent and readable.  Lol, and like I said, I didn't like mine, but the more I see of the ball and the more I think about how mine reacted, and especially with what I'm seeing of my new Smokin, I understand it better.  But no, from first glance if you don't understand what the ball will do, it doesn't look or act like a heavy oil ball, it acts like it's a marshmellow that doesn't hook.  I drilled one for a friend and he absolutely hated it too, but once he's worked with it a little and gotten in tune with the ball, it's all he throws, and he scores great with it.  I honestly think it's even more versatile than the Ultimate was.  The only REAL problem the ball has is that it auto-polishes itself BIG TIME.  It'll go from box to looking like 1500 grit polish in less than 10 games, and that's not just the track, it's the whole ball.
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