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bowlitup

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Requesting Help, Thanks Guys
« on: March 20, 2005, 11:19:55 AM »
I have a situation for all you guys who like to give people equipment advise.

I bowl at two different centers. The first one is where I bowl in my only league,on fridays. This center has a medium to medium/heavy oil league/house shot that is generally fresh at 6:00 p.m. The other is much closer to home and therefore it is where I do a majority of my practice. This center puts out significantly less oil. I would call it medium/dry, but still a house 10 to 10 type deal. At my practice center I usually bowl in the evening, and therefore encounter a significant amount of carrydown and a pretty severe over/under reaction. My Absolute with it's drilling(1"pin at a 1:30 position, CG near grip center) and my style(tweener,medium speed medium revs)is not all that well suited to this type of condition.(While it kills on my fresh league shot.)
This difference has opened my eyes. I now belive that a new ball will benefit my game on this type of carrydown-over/under condition. It is not all that important to me that I necessarily score well in practice,especially in a different center than where I compete in league, however I feel that some time in the future, learning the proper type of equipment to use on this type of shot will benefit my future bowling. I was considering a Raging, or an Impulse, with a similar drilling, because I have heard that particle balls are good for smoothing out over/under, and still having enough bite to get through the carrydown.
My questions are:
1) Do you think I am even on the right track as to the decision to change balls?
2)Is there anything that I should know before getting a particle ball, as I have never used one before?
3)Do you have another suggestion other than what I have listed above?

Any input is GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks and have a great day/night.
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CoachJim

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Re: Requesting Help, Thanks Guys
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2005, 07:27:33 PM »
To tell if you are on the right track, you might want to try a duller surface on your Absolute. If this works you could then invest in a higher load particle ball. That is one of the best things about the Absolute, if you dull it up, it will react like a particle ball and shined up it reacts like a reactive.

If you dull the ball, and it doesn't react on the back end, it is burning up, not hitting carry down. It is hard to recognize the difference sometimes because all you see is the ball not turning the corner and assume it is carry down. If this is the case and the ball is burning up, you can polish the ball, put more side rotation on it, move deeper inside where the oil is, or just throw the ball a bit harder.

Carry down makes the ball look as if it is hooking twice, the ball goes down the lane, starts to make it's move, then skids, then starts to hook again, you have to watch the rotation of the ball as it hits the dry and starts to make it's move back to the pocket. A burned out ball is rolling end over end, and carry down the ball still has some side rotation left.

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bowlitup

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Re: Requesting Help, Thanks Guys
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2005, 07:35:43 PM »
Only thing is, I love my Absolute as is for my "Important" leauge shot.
But thanks alot Coach!!!
Anything else anyone?

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I suppose I could just dull it and move deeper in league, but with my weak drilling and medium revs, I am not confident that I could get it back if I belly it too much. I am not yet capable of using a proper cranker release, but I'm trying to lean so I can become more versatile. Thanks for replying!
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bowlitup

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Re: Requesting Help, Thanks Guys
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2005, 10:28:35 PM »
CoachJim,
Thanks for the great insight. The difference between carrydown and burning up is one that I never would have noticed. Now that I know the difference I am sure it is carry down. When the ball gets to the friction, it tries to turn the corner, but it only sort of "burps" and continues to roll pretty straight  but still with plenty of rotation. I've seen it do that hooking twice thing and I was pretty confused. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

So assuming that it is indeed carrydown... what do you (or anyone else) think I should do?

I have no reservations toward purchasing a new ball to help out the situation and to broaden my arsenal, but I would like some more info to make sure I won't be wasting my money on the wrong ball, should I decide to go for it.
I think particle is the right way to go, but it feels good to hear the truth from the fine folks here at BR.
Thanks Jim, and to anyone else who replies!
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Edited on 3/20/2005 11:26 PM

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dizzyfugu

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Re: Requesting Help, Thanks Guys
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2005, 08:37:01 AM »
Hi Bowlitup,

if you want to invest into a particle oil ball, then I'd leave the AI with its original surface to give it enough length. Dulling it will increase friction, and therefore either make the AI more suitable for longer/heavier oil but less capable of broken down lanes or a dry track.

IF you want an additional (new) ball, then I'd suggest going for a strong particle ball, e.g. the RI (look out for closeouts! May save money) in box finish or even dulled down, the Warp Zone or the BVP Goliath (the latter being the better choice: performance/price ratio).

I'd also recommend a drilling with an earlier, smoother reaction, because you should be able to play this ball in the oil on an inside line, making a wide arc, rather than sending it through the oil on a walled shot and have it touch dry ground and make its move to the pocket.

But alway keep a reactive at hand: when the lanes dry up, especially the heads, you could roll a water melon down the lane. Those particles burn up easily on dry ground, but they are the best choice when you cannot create any area with your "normal" reactive equipment.

Hope this helps?
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bowlitup

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Re: Requesting Help, Thanks Guys
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2005, 12:09:22 PM »
dizzy,
That definitely helps. I will look into those choices. Thanks alot!
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