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Title: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: CoorZero on June 13, 2017, 11:49:43 AM
http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/vintage-inferno/

http://www.bowlwithbrunswick.com/balls/detail/magnitude-035/

Uh oh. The Inferno line is back. I know lots of people who will be lining up for that one. This is a pearl with the Activator 2.0 coverstock. The Magnitude 035 looks like a mid-range solid with the Relativity Flip coverstock. They're pumping it as a control front-to-back ball so this one might be popular for sport shots.
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: tkkshop on June 13, 2017, 12:17:57 PM
So the new inferno is a Respect Pearl? ;)
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: leftybowler70 on June 13, 2017, 01:26:08 PM
I have been begging for this ball since the vintage Danger Zone came back finally.
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: northface28 on June 13, 2017, 07:51:05 PM
Not a Brunswick guy at all. However, that Inferno should be a slam dunk.
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: Impending Doom on June 13, 2017, 09:08:31 PM
I think I was the only person on the planet that hated his Ultimate Inferno. Hated it.

But everyone else loved the Infernos! Lol
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: ignitebowling on June 13, 2017, 09:17:12 PM
So the new inferno is a Respect Pearl? ;)

Never understood how global was able to pull it off but it was great seeing one of their guys on here denying it. It's also funny Track has the Heat name but the core is used by Storm in  the Ride series.

… .its not the same





Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: Impending Doom on June 13, 2017, 09:41:35 PM
I love that interview. "It's totally different!"
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: avabob on July 27, 2017, 11:11:38 PM
There were a bunch of infernos.  The original, and the absolute with activator + were the best.  Also, the Vapor Zone with activator+ and an asymmetrical core was a great ball.  A lot of the others were not great core shell matchups. 

Also, the absolute was re released about 5 years ago as the Anaconda. 
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on July 28, 2017, 08:24:00 AM
Having used my Inferno a few sets now, it's the real deal.  Love it.  For whatever reason, I have never liked the color orange, but this ball might change something that's in my head for 55 years...

My very early report on the Magnitude .035 looks like it will have a place for those wanting something very controlled.  I've only rolled mine about about a game though.  First shot came up light because I tried the same line as a stronger ball, which was excellent news to me.  Made a move right on the approach and target and the ball was still very smooth, but got there and carried well. 

This ball should be money on shorter patterns as well as lanes that have transitioned and the bowler wants to stay where he started.  Time will tell, but I may try some compound on the cover, but at this stage I'm leaving it alone.  How many times do you wish you had a ball that would allow you to play close to friction AND not go crazy the last 10-15 feet of lane?  This ball didn't knock me over with hook, but will definitely make me some cash in the long run, for certain.  Nice addition to a well-rounded arsenal.

Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: milorafferty on July 28, 2017, 09:35:56 AM
Having used my Inferno a few sets now, it's the real deal.  Love it.  For whatever reason, I have never liked the color orange, but this ball might change something that's in my head for 55 years...

My very early report on the Magnitude .035 looks like it will have a place for those wanting something very controlled.  I've only rolled mine about about a game though.  First shot came up light because I tried the same line as a stronger ball, which was excellent news to me.  Made a move right on the approach and target and the ball was still very smooth, but got there and carried well. 

This ball should be money on shorter patterns as well as lanes that have transitioned and the bowler wants to stay where he started.  Time will tell, but I may try some compound on the cover, but at this stage I'm leaving it alone.  How many times do you wish you had a ball that would allow you to play close to friction AND not go crazy the last 10-15 feet of lane?  This ball didn't knock me over with hook, but will definitely make me some cash in the long run, for certain.  Nice addition to a well-rounded arsenal.



Amazing amount of information for only using it one game...
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: BrunsNick on July 28, 2017, 10:36:21 AM
Having used my Inferno a few sets now, it's the real deal.  Love it.  For whatever reason, I have never liked the color orange, but this ball might change something that's in my head for 55 years...

My very early report on the Magnitude .035 looks like it will have a place for those wanting something very controlled.  I've only rolled mine about about a game though.  First shot came up light because I tried the same line as a stronger ball, which was excellent news to me.  Made a move right on the approach and target and the ball was still very smooth, but got there and carried well. 

This ball should be money on shorter patterns as well as lanes that have transitioned and the bowler wants to stay where he started.  Time will tell, but I may try some compound on the cover, but at this stage I'm leaving it alone.  How many times do you wish you had a ball that would allow you to play close to friction AND not go crazy the last 10-15 feet of lane?  This ball didn't knock me over with hook, but will definitely make me some cash in the long run, for certain.  Nice addition to a well-rounded arsenal.



Amazing amount of information for only using it one game...

Maybe because Lane has a very experienced eye and knows Brunswick equipment better than anyone?
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: milorafferty on July 28, 2017, 10:40:06 AM
Having used my Inferno a few sets now, it's the real deal.  Love it.  For whatever reason, I have never liked the color orange, but this ball might change something that's in my head for 55 years...

My very early report on the Magnitude .035 looks like it will have a place for those wanting something very controlled.  I've only rolled mine about about a game though.  First shot came up light because I tried the same line as a stronger ball, which was excellent news to me.  Made a move right on the approach and target and the ball was still very smooth, but got there and carried well. 

This ball should be money on shorter patterns as well as lanes that have transitioned and the bowler wants to stay where he started.  Time will tell, but I may try some compound on the cover, but at this stage I'm leaving it alone.  How many times do you wish you had a ball that would allow you to play close to friction AND not go crazy the last 10-15 feet of lane?  This ball didn't knock me over with hook, but will definitely make me some cash in the long run, for certain.  Nice addition to a well-rounded arsenal.



Amazing amount of information for only using it one game...

Maybe because Lane has a very experienced eye and knows Brunswick equipment better than anyone?

Yea, I'm sure that it...
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on July 28, 2017, 11:08:13 AM
Milo,

Thanks for the insult.   Coming from you it's a compliment.   It was probably a little more than a game, but yes, I put it away because I have a tournament this weekend, and rumor has it that it's a shorter/flatter pattern.  I thought controlling the back-end will be important. 

I will post more after I use it more.  Why?   Sometimes I wonder...

Nick, thanks.  I don't know if I know Brunswick better than everyone, but I try to understand where and when to use a particular ball, and I'm a "surface freak" who is unafraid to try things.  The factory surface is good so far.




Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: milorafferty on July 28, 2017, 11:11:53 AM
Milo,

Thanks for the insult.   It was probably a little more than a game, but yes, I put it away because I have a tournament this weekend, and rumor has it that it's a shorter/flatter pattern.  I thought controlling the back-end will be important. 

I will post more after I use it more.  Why?   Sometimes I wonder...




Insult? I was trying to convey being impressed that one could get that volume of information from relatively little input.
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on July 28, 2017, 11:16:26 AM
^^^

Then thank you.

I misunderstood your post.  My apologies.

Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: bcw1969 on July 29, 2017, 07:39:33 PM
I think I was the only person on the planet that hated his Ultimate Inferno. Hated it.

But everyone else loved the Infernos! Lol

 Actually I hated that ball also....At the time it came out I let a proshop guy convince  me to get one and didn't care for it at all---it was only a while later that I realized that Particle coverstocks matched up better with me. Ended up trading it to a teammate of mine.

Brad
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: charlest on July 30, 2017, 02:11:35 PM
Guys,

I'm not sure I understand what the problems you had with your Ultimate Inferno have to do with the re-issue of the "plain" Inferno, other than both were in the Inferno family. 'splain, please.

I assume, for the sake of clarity, that you are NOT trying to say that all Infernos are bad.
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: Impending Doom on July 30, 2017, 03:24:30 PM
Oh no, the Inferno line was great for 99% of people, so I hope this rolls just as well. I'm just an anomaly lol.
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: charlest on July 30, 2017, 03:58:00 PM
Oh no, the Inferno line was great for 99% of people, so I hope this rolls just as well. I'm just an anomaly lol.

But not every Inferno was gold. The only one I liked was the mildest of them, The Clown ball, The Intense Inferno. Actually not many people here in NJ, that I saw, liked the Ultimate; just too early - required too much oil.

Still, because if several balls in a line don't have good core/cover match-ups, the line can still be good. Look at the Hy-Road. It carried the whole line by itself.
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: Impending Doom on July 30, 2017, 07:02:36 PM
Oh no, the Inferno line was great for 99% of people, so I hope this rolls just as well. I'm just an anomaly lol.

But not every Inferno was gold. The only one I liked was the mildest of them, The Clown ball, The Intense Inferno. Actually not many people here in NJ, that I saw, liked the Ultimate; just too early - required too much oil.

Still, because if several balls in a line don't have good core/cover match-ups, the line can still be good. Look at the Hy-Road. It carried the whole line by itself.


I tried an Intense... Gave it away after 2 shots.
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: charlest on July 30, 2017, 07:11:44 PM
Oh no, the Inferno line was great for 99% of people, so I hope this rolls just as well. I'm just an anomaly lol.

But not every Inferno was gold. The only one I liked was the mildest of them, The Clown ball, The Intense Inferno. Actually not many people here in NJ, that I saw, liked the Ultimate; just too early - required too much oil.

Still, because if several balls in a line don't have good core/cover match-ups, the line can still be good. Look at the Hy-Road. It carried the whole line by itself.


I tried an Intense... Gave it away after 2 shots.

Ok, I believe you: you didn't like the Inferno line. :)
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: Impending Doom on July 30, 2017, 07:45:35 PM
To be honest, I really didn't match up.to the Train core, so I'm not hating on Brunswick.

Now I can't explain why I have a NIB Freight Train... I'm hoping I can hit the magic layout
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: tburky on July 30, 2017, 10:15:01 PM
 I wasn't a fan of the ultimate inferno. Liked the original inferno and loved the absolute inferno and vapor zone.
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on July 31, 2017, 12:48:01 AM
Many of the people around here liked their Ultimate Inferno after we put a little polish on it, but was too early without.  The Absolute was great, and the Vapor Zone was even better.  Those two shared the same cover as I recall.

The Intense looked cool (bright colors) going down the lane, but was not as versatile as the above mentioned Absolute and Vapor.  The Intense was much more over/under for sure.  Blazing Inferno was pretty good for straighter lines as was the Smokin" Inferno.  The Scorchin' and Total Infernos never had the "wow factor" with me, but were good for honor scores, so I remember them fondly.

It's always fun to hear others' ideas on certain balls looking back.   As time goes by we remember the ones that were favorites, and others that turned out to be less... 

And sometimes we start out with a ball and think it's going to be good for the arsenal, but then don't use it as much as the more versatile ones and they end up in the "not good" category.  I can remember a few that were not keepers, but didn't notice it until time passed and I analyzed why I never threw it in the bag for "league night".   The Twisted Fury solid was not a good one for me, but early on I thought I'd use it regularly.  The "test" of time, I guess. 






Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: CoorZero on July 31, 2017, 11:27:04 AM
The Smokin' Inferno was the popular version around here. I had the Ultimate and it was great for me, but I also threw the ball much differently back then.

I guess the question now with this discussion is which previous iteration the Vintage Inferno is going to be closest to. It should be the original Inferno, but is that how it actually is?
Title: Re: Vintage Inferno & Magnitude 035 WWRD 8-15-17
Post by: avabob on August 01, 2017, 03:07:07 PM
See a couple more votes for the Vapor Zone.  Always wondered why they didn't remake it.  Actually, not sure they didn't.  I always thought the Pearl Fury gave me a lot of Vapor Zone last look.