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abrown

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what the?
« on: February 07, 2008, 05:29:56 AM »
in the past 2 days i have drilled a red zone and a strike zone up for customers both balls new in the box and in both balls i found a red plastic drinking straw in the ball going into the weight block one in the area of the mass bias the other just there. I called the 800 number at the brunswick place to ask about this but got the runaround and ended up getting transferred 5 times and finally left a message. My question is why in the hell are there drinking straws in the bowling balls? I know mexican labor is cheaper but thats ridiculous whats next tomatoes in place of a weight block. has any one else seen or heard of this? this is the main reason why i try to defer customers from buying these balls

 

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Re: what the?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2008, 01:31:13 PM »
Can you post a picture of this?  I want to see this for myself.
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Re: what the?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2008, 01:33:07 PM »
ill take pics of them tonight there still at the shop. it was a slurpy type straw the one with the mini spoon attached to it

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Re: what the?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2008, 01:34:07 PM »
Unbelievable.
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Re: what the?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2008, 01:45:56 PM »
I have HIT what looks like core pins under the surface on a few t-zone that I 've had to put plug in and re drill . These balls had NO PINS ON THE SURFACE!!!

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Re: what the?
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2008, 05:36:00 PM »
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in the past 2 days i have drilled a red zone and a strike zone up for customers both balls new in the box and in both balls i found a red plastic drinking straw in the ball going into the weight block one in the area of the mass bias the other just there. I called the 800 number at the brunswick place to ask about this but got the runaround and ended up getting transferred 5 times and finally left a message. My question is why in the hell are there drinking straws in the bowling balls? I know mexican labor is cheaper but thats ridiculous whats next tomatoes in place of a weight block. has any one else seen or heard of this? this is the main reason why i try to defer customers from buying these balls


The red straw like material you are descibing is actually a spacer to keep the core properly spaced inside the outer core. These cores are actually made in the good old USA and shipped to the new plant in Mexico.

Not defending Brunswick, just stating the facts.
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Re: what the?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2008, 03:49:40 PM »
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in the past 2 days i have drilled a red zone and a strike zone up for customers both balls new in the box and in both balls i found a red plastic drinking straw in the ball going into the weight block one in the area of the mass bias the other just there. I called the 800 number at the brunswick place to ask about this but got the runaround and ended up getting transferred 5 times and finally left a message. My question is why in the hell are there drinking straws in the bowling balls? I know mexican labor is cheaper but thats ridiculous whats next tomatoes in place of a weight block. has any one else seen or heard of this? this is the main reason why i try to defer customers from buying these balls




cooldaddy,  Did you take the time to read this,  5 times he got transferred.
He never heard of straws in a ball. And it appears, not to many other ball drillers have.  

And I seriously doubt that you knew that.  In fact I seriously doubt if you know anything.  Your just a geek who surfs the net in his underwear while drinking coffee.

How's that for the facts!!!

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Re: what the?
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2008, 03:58:37 PM »
lol

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Re: what the?
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2008, 04:24:45 PM »
Pictures?
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Re: what the?
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2008, 09:19:29 PM »
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Facts!  Facts!  You don't really think northface and jls pay attention to those do you?  Please.


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Re: what the?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2008, 12:53:48 AM »
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in the past 2 days i have drilled a red zone and a strike zone up for customers both balls new in the box and in both balls i found a red plastic drinking straw in the ball going into the weight block one in the area of the mass bias the other just there. I called the 800 number at the brunswick place to ask about this but got the runaround and ended up getting transferred 5 times and finally left a message. My question is why in the hell are there drinking straws in the bowling balls? I know mexican labor is cheaper but thats ridiculous whats next tomatoes in place of a weight block. has any one else seen or heard of this? this is the main reason why i try to defer customers from buying these balls


The red straw like material you are descibing is actually a spacer to keep the core properly spaced inside the outer core. These cores are actually made in the good old USA and shipped to the new plant in Mexico.

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Re: what the?
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2008, 06:21:38 AM »
Strange how the B'Wick boys aren't chiming in with their words of wisdom. Curious to hear their cries of defense on this one.

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Re: what the?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2008, 07:32:44 AM »
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I had a problem with a ball and the shop called the rep that was in the brunswick catalog and he took care of it right away. It was not an 800 number, it was his reps number. they are all in the catalog. I would like to see this straw thing. Sounds very unusual. Why would they do cores like that I wonder. It sounds like sabotage from the other Michigan people making cores. I still use mostly brunswick because I bowl best with them and they always will stand behind their product. And they don't lose reaction very quick.




It isn't sabotage. As I stated previously, the red straw like material is a spacer that the core manufacturer uses to keep the inner core properly set within the outer core.

And you are correct. If you do have an issue, have the pro shop operator contact the Product Specialist, listed in the catalog, for your area.

As far as the Brunswick Reps. not coming on here. Look at the way some of you browbeat them when they do answer a legitimate question. Just remember, they are people too that are just trying to make a living. All of the decisions that were made to move the manufacturing plant to Mexico didn't involve them. They simply work for the corporation.

So the next time one of the Brunswick boys comes on here to answer a question, defend a false statement, etc. please try and remember, they are people to with feelings and a job to do. How would you feel if someone came to your place of employment and browbeat you the way some of you browbeat the Brunswick boys.

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abrown

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Re: what the?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2008, 08:09:19 AM »
it wasnt a red straw like material it was indeed a red straw like you get at 7 11 for a slurpy had the spoon tip on it the brunswick rep contacted me yesterday saying that it was a clear pin not a straw. But the fact is its hard enough to sale brunswick equipment around here with so many factory jobs lost to moving to mexico i cant push them. people are interested till they see made in mexico, well from what i was told the cores and all the other things are made here and sent to mexico so be assembled but if i remember reading they completely shut down there plant and built one in Mexico for the pics i was asked not to post them by a brunswick person but i will as soon as i get them in my computer

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Re: what the?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2008, 08:24:09 AM »
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It isn't sabotage. As I stated previously, the red straw like material is a spacer that the core manufacturer uses to keep the inner core properly set within the outer core.

And you are correct. If you do have an issue, have the pro shop operator contact the Product Specialist, listed in the catalog, for your area.

As far as the Brunswick Reps. not coming on here. Look at the way some of you browbeat them when they do answer a legitimate question. Just remember, they are people too that are just trying to make a living. All of the decisions that were made to move the manufacturing plant to Mexico didn't involve them. They simply work for the corporation.

So the next time one of the Brunswick boys comes on here to answer a question, defend a false statement, etc. please try and remember, they are people to with feelings and a job to do. How would you feel if someone came to your place of employment and browbeat you the way some of you browbeat the Brunswick boys.

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Well said Verbs.