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Title: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 06:24:53 AM
I want to get a ball that would be good for medium oil. I was thinking the Red Zone or the Smokin' Inferno. I have low-med revs, medium speed, down and in.
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 26, 2006, 02:29:36 PM
Thats easy.  The Red Zone.  The Smokin with your lack of rev rate will go too long down the lane.  The Red Zone will be easier to control as it will be smoother off the break point.
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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 26, 2006, 02:30:18 PM
One more thing....you already have the Strike Zone.  What do you want different from that?
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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 02:32:12 PM
The Strike Zone is for more med/hvy and hvy at least for me it is.

Edited on 7/26/2006 2:28 PM
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: KDawg77 on July 26, 2006, 02:36:56 PM
You might want to check what Strike Zones are selling for now, get another one (if they're cheaper), change the surface to match the Red Zone and use a different drilling.
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Edited on 7/26/2006 2:32 PM
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 02:39:58 PM
I don't want another Strike Zone... I like having different balls. Plus, I can get the Red Zone real cheap, but I'll keep the place to myself.
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 02:44:02 PM
I'll be having the Scorchin' Inferno, the Stike Zone, and then I need one for medium.
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 26, 2006, 02:48:59 PM
You may want to do a step down from the Strike Zone.  Go with something like a Rampage by Brunswick.  A Overtime or Smashtime by Ebonite would work well.
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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 02:51:45 PM
Do you think I should stick to one company? Or 2?
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: Joe Jr on July 26, 2006, 02:54:08 PM
Vapor Zone would fit nicely.
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Edited on 7/21/2005 1:21 PM
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 02:57:25 PM
Scorchin', Strike Zone, Ace, Sling Blade. Is that ok?
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: KDawg77 on July 26, 2006, 03:02:09 PM
Those four are good balls. What curve shape do you want and do you want the ball to "read the backends" or handle some carrydwon on medium conditions? Steve would know better than I, but the Hammer Doom is a great medium ball so is the Vapor Zone. The Red Zone will be even-reacting versus a "skid-snap" of the Doom. I think you're set well now and just may want to change the surface of your Ace.
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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 03:08:15 PM
The Scorchin' will be dull and drilled for max hook. The Strike Zone is dull but drilled for more of med/hvy... the ace is polished and for med...the sling blade isn't shiny or really dull and it hooks less than my Ace.
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: KDawg77 on July 26, 2006, 03:16:29 PM
Also, here's something I learned from an Ebonite guy: many bowlers make the mistake of judging hook by the backend reaction. That's why you see Ebonite and Hammer currently putting out higher grit and polished equipment versus 800-1200 grit dull and matte finishes. It's good advice to take into account for your next purchase.
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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 26, 2006, 03:19:32 PM
IMO..with the arsenal you have currently, I really think that a Rampage would fit really well.  The Vapor Zone is a great ball, probably the best release of 2006.  BUT....you need something to fit under the Strike Zone with a different look.  I think you need to fit a pearl cover in there since you already have solids in the Scorchin and Strike Zone.  You need something to clears the heads really well with good backend.  If you wanted to stay in the Zone line, too bad you could not find a Zone Classic.  It would get down the lane better than the Vapor.  If you like the Hammer stuff, the Doom, as KDawg mentioned, would be a good choice as well.  Go with something mid performance to fit this need.  You already have enough higher end stuff with the Scorchin, Strike, and Ace.

Choices:  Rampage, Smashtime, Hammer Doom,
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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 03:34:04 PM
I could possibly get a Power Groove Dry/R from my friend for $50. Would that be a good replacement for the Sling?
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: KDawg77 on July 26, 2006, 03:35:03 PM
Not in my opinion. It's a weaker core and cover. The Dry/R would go below the Sling Blade on the "strength" chart.
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Edited on 7/26/2006 3:31 PM
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 03:38:43 PM
Ok, then in my current arsenal, what should I replace? I can get a Zone Classic for $50 shipped or a Absolute Inferno for $60 shipped.
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 26, 2006, 03:41:21 PM
I would get the Zone Classic.  IF you replace anything, maybe the Ace.  At $50 shipped, it would be a huge steal if you can get it.
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Former Pro Shop Operator

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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 03:43:17 PM
I was thinking of getting a light oil ball that hooks less than my Sling Blade. The ace is an awesome ball. Any opinions for light?
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: KDawg77 on July 26, 2006, 03:43:39 PM
I wouldn't replace anything because like Steven (TWOHAND) advised, you shop look at a stronger reactive pearl ball. My gut tells me to get the Classic Zone if I take your stats into account. That is, unless you can get a Rampage or other ball he mentioned for the same prices.
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Edited on 7/26/2006 3:40 PM
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 03:46:52 PM
To replace what KDawg? I don't want to get rid of the Ace... it's awesome...
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 03:48:01 PM
Like I said I want a ball that's more for light than the Sling Blade.. that hooks too much.
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: KDawg77 on July 26, 2006, 03:48:13 PM
quote:
Ok, then in my current arsenal, what should I replace? I can get a Zone Classic for $50 shipped or a Absolute Inferno for $60 shipped.


You asked about replacing. I answered.
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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 03:48:51 PM
Yeah but to replace what ball? You can't replace an Ace... it's just too good.
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 03:53:14 PM
I could get the Zone Classic but where would it go? I can't really put it in the Ace's place... is there any way I could drill it for more of a light oil ball? It's such a good price it's hard to turn down.
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: KDawg77 on July 26, 2006, 03:55:44 PM
My advise was to NOT repalce anything and get the Classic Zone for a diffeent look on medium conditions. The only way to make it anywhere near a light oil ball is to drill the pin 5+ inches from your PAP or stack it with the CG over the bridge of the fingers and sand it up toi at least 2000 grit and then polish it.
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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 03:58:08 PM
I think that's a good idea. I'm doing it.
Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: TWOHAND834 on July 26, 2006, 04:09:01 PM
HALLELUIA!!!!  LOL!!!  Anyways, you did not mention you were looking for something under the Sling initially.  If that was the case, I would have recommended something like a Tornado, Scout R, or Power Groove.  Since you initially said for mediums, I thought the Zone Classic was the best choice of the balls you mentioned.
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Title: Re: Which one?
Post by: strikestriketapped on July 26, 2006, 04:13:13 PM
Sorry for all the trouble, but thanks for the help twohand and kdawg.