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bighook69

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why Brunswick.... why
« on: June 16, 2005, 10:46:43 AM »
I really like the fact that bowling balls are made in the USA... but, Brunswick, who has a plant near me (Muskegon, Michigan) is moving a ball making plant to Mexico...

any reason  besides its cheaper behind the move?
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« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2005, 10:37:27 PM »
Reynosa, Mexico actually puts the plant closer to me!

If they do plant tours, I hope they give out a Brunswick Nation Sombrero like this:

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bighook69

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« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2005, 10:41:07 PM »
I better make my trash raiding trip to the plant soon....

NO kidding though, they have PILES of bowling balls in the trashs outside....
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« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2005, 10:47:33 PM »
looks at imprint on ball near serial, "made in Mexico" what?

or will the made in "suddenly" disappear?
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« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2005, 10:49:20 PM »
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Reynosa, Mexico actually puts the plant closer to me!

If they do plant tours, I hope they give out a Brunswick Nation Sombrero like this:

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTcwNzIwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
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Edited on 6/16/2005 10:43 PM


yeah going to chevy's for birthdays was the bomb when we were younger huh brunsnick?
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« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2005, 10:55:55 PM »
Younger? LOL, yeah 23 was a long time ago.

When we went to Merced last year, a bunch of us went to Chevy's. One of them thought it'd be funny to tell the lady it was my bday. Anyway, they brought me a hat and this big ol' ice cream sundae. He got all bent and jealous. Goodtimes.
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« Reply #36 on: June 16, 2005, 11:01:33 PM »
sorry, ive got two and thats how i recognized it(last one when i was about 16 IIRC).  The chevys around here have gone down hill a little bit around here in the last couple years.  But its hard to compare them to the real mexican food that we have around here.

do they still have the el plato gordo?  it used to be a single plate but i think they made it a plate for two now.
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« Reply #37 on: June 16, 2005, 11:06:31 PM »
Is this going to be production of ALL balls? Including MoRich and Lane 1? If so I think the shipping times and price are going to be affected.
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« Reply #38 on: June 16, 2005, 11:36:25 PM »
hola, mi nombre es señor Brunswick, todas sus bolas de bowling serán producidas por trabajadores mexicanos pagados más bajos, porque los jugadores de bolos son un grupo de gente barato y no hay nada que usted puede hacer sobre él vive de largo el juego americano
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« Reply #39 on: June 16, 2005, 11:51:33 PM »
Well said, El Dude.  This may be off topic, but I thought canadians spoke french.  Anyways, its not good to see the plant go, but money talks.  About the "made in America" logo, if I'm not mistaken, I think they can still claim the balls are made in America if the cores are made here along with the covers.  The balls just happen to be produced across the border.  We had this discussion in a Latin American geography class last year.  American made parts put together in Mexico can still be called "made in America".
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« Reply #40 on: June 16, 2005, 11:53:36 PM »
¿Esta voluntad mala de la mella está cambiando tan sus varios nombres de la mella del oscilación de la parte posteriora del capitán al español?
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« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2005, 12:02:01 AM »
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what about Brunswick doing things for money... sounds like they care more about money than the average bowler to me


take any business course and the first thing you learn is the roll of any business IS TO MAKE MONEY!

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« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2005, 12:07:14 AM »
well the part about most canadians speaking french is true, they are supposed to, but most can't outside of quebec. all canadian students are required to study and pass basic french but many don't use it locally so they can't speak the language.

as for my spanish lol i can't really speak it, but altavista.com in co-operation with babelfish make translating dumb comments a sinch.
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« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2005, 12:18:58 AM »
I hate to see the plant go, I hate to see Americans loss job, as far as boycotting Brunswick, I stopped buy there product years ago not because of where it is made but because in my opinion there balls don't match my game, I like the smaller companies. My favorite ball company is Visionary, they make a great ball that last a long time and still retains it's power. VBP (Visionary Bowling Products) has balls on there current line that has been being produced 4-5 or more years, because they works. I try to stay away from the companies that produce 4 or 5 new ball a season, I mean if the equipment is so great why stop production of it. Oh and I do have a AI because it was giving to me, I've had it for 3 months and it doesn't have 5 games on it. I use 2 Brunswick balls a Sapphire Zone and a Cosmic Bugs Bunny.
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« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2005, 12:22:40 AM »
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I demand that right now, whoever decides to boycott Brunswick for this, you MUST boycott ANYTHING that is not made in the united states.  If you don't, you're very hypocritical and don't have your priorities straight.  Afterall, I don't see the huge movement to stop Walmart and virtually every other massive store which use not only foreign labor, but likely child labor?

Don't take it as if I'm condemning you for being angry, you should be, but boycotting a company like Brunswick wouldn't achieve crap.  Especially some of you whose bowling might suffer too.



OK. I haven't stepped foot in a Walmart in 7 years.

You were wondering about the huge movement against Walmart? How about:

http://factchecker.purpleocean.org/

http://www.walmartmovie.com/

http://www.changeamerica.com/

Boycotting is stupid? Well first of all, I never said boycott. I will simply be voting with my wallet & secure in the fact that I'm not giving money to a country that is offshoring production for 5 to 7 Million.

Oh and just so you all realize how insignificant 5-7 million is to the Brunswick Corp: http://www.cincypost.com/2005/03/09/bruns030905.html

"Brunswick's profits in 2004 doubled to $270 million on a 16 percent jump in sales."

And it's kinda funny that you should mention Walmart. Here's this from that same article: "The United Marine Manufacturers Association, the largest organization of independent boat builders, has urged its members to avoid buying the company's products because "Brunswick intends to put you out of business." Group president Kent Wooldridge likens the big manufacturer to Wal-Mart with its growing presence and clout."

So thanks a lot Big B, but I'm going back to a company that isn't selling out its workers for a cheap buck.

Will just little old me make a difference? Not really. But trust me when I say there will be a day of reckoning for these mega-corps. When no one here has a job & the US is finally passed by many other countries as a world economic power...My conscience will be sound knowing I didn't help.

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DON DRAPER

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« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2005, 12:27:44 AM »
i won't stop buying brunswick equipment because production will move to another country---there's nothing i can do to stop that. i don't get involved in corporate decisions or political matters. however, if the quality of items being produced slips or the price goes up for no apparent reason, i may have to look elsewhere. i quit buying cars made by american companies in the early 1980's because of poor quality control and reliability problems. the big three have improved every year but still aren't up to the level of toyota and honda---consumer reports and j.d. power & associates will verify this. that is why i drive a honda. a quality product...a proven product. will the quality of brunswick slip to the level of the big three ? let's hope not !