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bighook69

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why Brunswick.... why
« on: June 16, 2005, 10:46:43 AM »
I really like the fact that bowling balls are made in the USA... but, Brunswick, who has a plant near me (Muskegon, Michigan) is moving a ball making plant to Mexico...

any reason  besides its cheaper behind the move?
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Re: why Brunswick.... why
« Reply #76 on: June 19, 2005, 01:59:38 AM »
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As long as PK18, Activator, and core construction materials are made with the same "recipe" as it is today, I don't feel that there is a need to worry about who's making our bowling balls.


"recipe"....that there mexican water might make the covers fall apart

the new formula for particle is bits of taco, and cores are going to be chalupa-shaped....
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« Reply #77 on: June 19, 2005, 05:33:55 PM »
SDbowler, the point I'm trying to make is that everything I try to buy is US made, that is if i HAVE A CHOICE. So beings that I have a choice I buy US made bowling equipment because it is the bowler not the equipment that makes the difference.

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Re: why Brunswick.... why
« Reply #78 on: June 19, 2005, 05:46:31 PM »
Outrage, what are you going to do if and when the other companies follow suit?
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Re: why Brunswick.... why
« Reply #79 on: June 19, 2005, 06:11:37 PM »
How will this affect collegiate programs that get their stuff direct from brunswick?  I know I myself invested a ton of my own money in ordering direct through brunswick's collegiate plan, costs may go down for balls, but what about shipping and handling?  Will we be getting everything direct from Mexico now?
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Re: why Brunswick.... why
« Reply #80 on: June 19, 2005, 06:12:23 PM »
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Outrage, what are you going to do if and when the other companies follow suit?
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Purchase from small companies that won't be moving out of the US.

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« Reply #81 on: June 20, 2005, 02:21:21 AM »
I laugh, laugh,  and laugh some more about the complaints because the people complaining are the same people complaining about how expensive costs of balls are.
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Bjaardker

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« Reply #82 on: June 20, 2005, 09:20:50 AM »
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I laugh, laugh,  and laugh some more about the complaints because the people complaining are the same people complaining about how expensive costs of balls are.


Do you REALLY think that the cost of a Brunswick bowling ball is going to go down after they move to Mexico?

That's like the suckers who bought the crap the record industry was feeding us in the mid 80's when they said the costs of CDs would go down as soon as the technology caught up.

Brunswick made $270,000,000 PROFIT last year. By their own admission they will be saving only $5-7 Million. Do you think that is going to drastically impact the cost of their bowling balls? If so, let me have a slice of that pie in the sky you're hogging.

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« Reply #83 on: June 20, 2005, 10:00:29 AM »
Its pretty sad that its hard enough for me to keep a job cause all the manufacturing jobs here in Michigan have gone to foreigners, now this BS that Brunswick is also moving down there.

Simply sad.

All to save a dollar or two.  I would love to save some money on balls, but I purchase balls that I love to use at the price they are listed at.  Now, if my balls are my by some dueche named jose........no thanks!!

Do people even bowl in mexico?
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« Reply #84 on: June 20, 2005, 11:12:43 AM »
Redbear, you couldn't be more right.
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« Reply #85 on: June 20, 2005, 04:22:18 PM »
If Brunswick is going to lay off its workers to save money I can see no reason to keep an amateur program intact with a lot of "free equipment" that is taking away profits. Evidently, there was not enough interest created by those who got the comp stuff to keep profits high enough. Therefore, they should be "let go" also for the sake of the business. Brunswick could probably save half-million or more there. There are much better ways to advertise then give free equipment to people who obviously did not influence enough bowlers to buy their product.

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« Reply #86 on: June 20, 2005, 07:12:22 PM »
Hope the mexicans like to bowl... I'm done with them.  I have been a brunswick and lane #1 supporter almost exclusively for the last 10 years.  If brunswick moves out of the country, I'm done with them.  There is no acceptable answer for a move, expect for greed.  As long as there are comparable products made here in the country, I'm going to buy them...even if it means converting to Ebonite (sends shivers up my back).

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Doug Sterner

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« Reply #87 on: June 20, 2005, 07:27:45 PM »
If Lane 1 and Mo follow Brunswick to Mexico I think I'll have to start throwing Hammer again :-)
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« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2005, 07:40:07 PM »
From a proshop owner's perspective, let me offer some insight on the discussion about ball quality, relative to Brunswick's announced move to Mexico:

Storm products - Worst in the business.  Place a Storm ball, any Storm ball, on a MoRich determinator and listen to it bounce.  Storm has, by far, the most out-of-round bowling balls in the industry.

Hammer products - Some of my favorite to throw, but I haven't seen Hammer properly mark a cg in months.  The Big Deal is a favorite of mine, but Ebonite and Hammer both must use the "Ray Charles" method for marking the cg.  It's typically a mile off.  

Ebonite products - As stated above, has problems finding cg's and some of their balls are out-of-round.

Columbia and Track - Have some of the best overall quality.

Brunswick - A very close second place to Columbia and Track.

So, please don't assume that a move to Mexico automatically means poor quality.  
We have manufacturers here in the U.S. with their own problems.  It's just that those of you who are not in a proshop don't ever see them because we are able to compensate for them.

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« Reply #89 on: June 20, 2005, 07:52:04 PM »
I don't personally have a problem with expansion south of the border...I have a problem with them MOVING production out of the US and costing US citizens employment...

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« Reply #90 on: June 20, 2005, 08:52:55 PM »
I definatly agree with Doug, I'll be drilling more and pushing more Track and the other USA made products in my shop!!

As stated before its just sad sad sad !! The Brunswick stuff had a really good product and name going Until now that is! I live in Michigan and this kind of lack of American Pride is hurting a lot of people close to me.

Just one question where will it STOP??  I hope they knock Brunswicks head off transporting these balls back into the USA!
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