Post by: Frederick on May 30, 2008, 01:04:23 PM
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Post by: Spartan on May 30, 2008, 09:53:57 PM
step 1-order up a sidewinder.
step 2-please drill for control.
step 3-observe the shop wrecking.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on May 30, 2008, 10:35:42 PM
if you go to this website long enough you'll see many people post remarks like coverstock death, balls that crack, balls that don't hook any more, etc. i've never had any of these problems with brunswick equipment. a little common sense like cleaing your equipment, oil removal via the revivor and/or rejuvenator, and upkeep on coverstock surfaces.
you've stated you haven't used your brunswick equipment that long. it takes time to get used to a useable and readable ball reaction. you may also have to experiment with surface changes on your equipment. i almost never use my equipment in "box condition ".
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Post by: Frederick on May 31, 2008, 12:29:26 AM
quote:I never saw enough oil for the Scorchin to work properly it would just burned up too quick. The Sidewinder was drilled wrong for my game and the Avalanche was never drilled.
a better question might be, "why not brunswick ?"
if you go to this website long enough you'll see many people post remarks like coverstock death, balls that crack, balls that don't hook any more, etc. i've never had any of these problems with brunswick equipment. a little common sense like cleaing your equipment, oil removal via the revivor and/or rejuvenator, and upkeep on coverstock surfaces.
you've stated you haven't used your brunswick equipment that long. it takes time to get used to a useable and readable ball reaction. you may also have to experiment with surface changes on your equipment. i almost never use my equipment in "box condition ".
My buddy who is a certified coach has been coaching me for a few months now. He said that my equipment is wrong for my game. He said that I would become a better bowler if I went away from all the flippy type stuff I have now. (BWP,BW, TNV, TRP and a Tropical) I always tend to buy the longest and strongest ball because that is what I like to see go down the lane. My buddy said that I need equipment that will read the mid lane with a strong controllable back end movement. Thats why he recommended Brunswick and possibly the new Columbia stuff.
I really want to improve my game so i guess I'm going to listen to him and buy something different than I normally would. The thing that sucks is that I was already set to buy a Playmaker and a Rapid Fire but I guess now I need to look further into Brunswick and Columbia stuff.
Post by: Brickguy221 on May 31, 2008, 01:18:05 AM
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if you go to this website long enough you'll see many people post remarks like coverstock death, balls that crack, balls that don't hook any more, etc. i've never had any of these problems with brunswick equipment.
Yes Brunswick balls will crack. I have a Twisted Fury that is cracked, so I just want to make drazor aware that Brunswick balls will crack the same as balls from other companies do at times.
As for a huge Brunswick following that drazor mentions, that varies from location to location. People will find that at one location, Brunswick rules....at another Ebonite rules....at another Storm Rules....at another location Hammer rules....and so forth. And all of these companies make good equipment. Bowlers just have to find what matches up best for them. I've tried single company match-ups and it hasn't worked for me. A mix of several companies seems to have worked best for me as my profile will show.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on May 31, 2008, 08:41:01 AM
Post by: Dan Belcher on May 31, 2008, 10:14:07 AM
quote:I have a MoRich Awesome Revs, the cover is poured by Brunswick and is a slightly modified Brunswick formula even, that is cracking pretty badly. I don't keep it in extreme weather at all. ALL bowling balls from any company can crack even if they are well maintained.
i think you'll find that most bowlers who suffer from cracked bowling balls are leaving their equipment in extremes of weather( in the trunk of the car, etc. ).
Post by: Brickguy221 on May 31, 2008, 11:02:25 AM
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i think you'll find that most bowlers who suffer from cracked bowling balls are leaving their equipment in extremes of weather( in the trunk of the car, etc. ).
Gregg, I will agree with you up to a point there, however I want to point out that my Twisted Fury or any of my balls have NEVER been left in the trunk of my car, so my TF didn't crack because left in the trunk of my car. Also I want to point out that I have seen balls crack sitting on the shelf in a pro shop also and they weren't exposed to the sun or windows either.
I read about balls cracking from ALL companies, but this Twisted Fury cracking is a first for me. In fact just a couple weeks ago one of my two drillers and I were talking and he said all balls can crack and I bragged that I had never had a ball crack. I should have knocked on wood when I said that because this past week I noticed my Twisted Fury is cracking.
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Post by: on May 31, 2008, 01:55:53 PM
The other part of the problem is that the cracking "problem" usually isn't discovered until the customer finds it. If you and your pro shop use the proper channels Brunswick has been outstanding in replacing any defective equipment.
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Post by: shelley on May 31, 2008, 02:12:29 PM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on May 31, 2008, 04:41:11 PM
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Start a new thread about ball cracking and quit hi-jacking this thread.
CRD, not sure who you are refering to here, but I didn't bring the cracking thing up nor did you see me complaining about it. Another member brought up the cracking thing first saying that Brunswick balls don't crack and I merely responded to his post correcting him that Brunswick balls do crack same as any other company. I have nothing against Brunswick and love my Twisted Fury and if they came out with a solid Twisted Fury, I would have that ball too. FYI, any ball from any company can crack. No company is immune from that happening.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on May 31, 2008, 04:57:05 PM
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Post by: Brickguy221 on May 31, 2008, 07:50:36 PM
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i guess i'm the luckiest man in the world when it comes to not having a bowling ball crack.
Gregg, I was in the same boat with you until a few days ago as I had NEVER had a ball crack before either as I mentioned earlier. Guess it is just one of those things. Doesn't change my opion about Brunswick as I still like Brunswick.
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Post by: DON DRAPER on May 31, 2008, 10:06:49 PM
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on May 31, 2008, 10:19:24 PM
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Coverstock durability and versatility. If you can't strike with Brunswick, you can't strike!
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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Amateur Staff
haha tell that to the corner pins....
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Post by: Verbs on June 01, 2008, 06:55:24 AM
What happens is that urethane never completely cures. It is constantly curing or shrinking. But the core materials are more stable and doesn't shrink. So while the cover is constantly shrinking, the core remains the same size. So wherever there is a stress point, (i.e. pin, finger holes, extra hole), the ball has the possibility to crack.
While the weather extremes has a lot to do with a ball cracking, a ball that is kept in a fairly controlled atmosphere can still crack.
What I have found, the more you use a ball, the less possibility of cracking from cover curing a ball will be.
Other than putting a ball through the weather extremes, letting a drilled ball sit on a shelf, or in the bag is the worst thing you can do.
So that means you need to get out and bowl more to keep the covers pliable.
I will say that working for a VERY LARGE distributor, I see all companies tendancies with cracking. Brunswick based coverstocks seem to be the most durable. Especially any of the Activator based coverstocks.
Verbs
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Post by: on June 01, 2008, 10:41:20 AM
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Coverstock durability and versatility. If you can't strike with Brunswick, you can't strike!
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Lane Carter, Strike Zone Pro Shops - Salt Lake City, Utah
Brunswick Amateur Staff
haha tell that to the corner pins....
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Ahhh Disco Biscuits!
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Sounds like a personal problem. Ever tried changing your entry angle?
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Post by: BeansProShop on June 11, 2008, 12:15:51 AM
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