Post by: on February 04, 2009, 04:51:55 AM
Simply put, I've never thrown a stronger pearl reactive, ever! This one handles more oil than any pearl I've ever thrown, yet still finishes strong for me. Carry is good, too. I have mine at about 2000 abralon, since I use it on fresh (rather slick conditions on Pro Anvilane) and it's lay out is strong at 4" from PAP and below the fingers. Having said that, if I don't throw it well it tends to look like any other pearl...
So, if you've had GOOD results with yours let me know some specifics regarding your lane conditions, ball layout, and something about your game. I'd like to know where this ball fits best, and for what type of bowler. Please continue to post any negative comments in the other threads. I have read them and frankly, I am a bit baffled... Thanks in advance for your replies.
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Post by: Andyman3333 on February 04, 2009, 01:09:32 PM
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Post by: OddBalls on February 04, 2009, 01:12:22 PM
No one made that ball look good..
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Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on February 04, 2009, 01:38:38 PM
I now am going to definitely pass on the Wild Ride, and if I get a decent tax return, I'm either going with the rattler or an emerald vibe...
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Post by: on February 04, 2009, 01:44:15 PM
So, if you've had GOOD results with yours let me know some specifics regarding your lane conditions, ball layout, and something about your game. I'd like to know where this ball fits best, and for what type of bowler. Please continue to post any negative comments in the other threads. I have read them and frankly, I am a bit baffled... Thanks in advance for your replies.
On edit, I don't care if it looked bad on PBA patterns, etc. The vast majority of us don't bowl on them regularly. Please stick to the topic. I've already heard the negative, mostly by those who haven't even thrown the ball.
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Edited on 2/4/2009 2:48 PM
Post by: Spider Ball Bowler on February 04, 2009, 01:45:52 PM
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So, if you've had GOOD results with yours let me know some specifics regarding your lane conditions, ball layout, and something about your game. I'd like to know where this ball fits best, and for what type of bowler. Please continue to post any negative comments in the other threads. I have read them and frankly, I am a bit baffled... Thanks in advance for your replies.
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Getting a little lonely in here Clay
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Post by: on February 04, 2009, 01:49:40 PM
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Post by: fishbowler on February 04, 2009, 01:54:50 PM
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Post by: on February 04, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
Maybe this question is premature since the ball has only been out about 2 weeks. I will watch it for a little while, and possibly withdraw the question until more people have had a chance to throw it.
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Post by: Easy10pins on February 04, 2009, 02:45:29 PM
Played straight up 5, smooth move off the dry, continuous motion through the pocket. First game, 278.
Then I realized I was establishing an average for the league.
I love this ball. It's a nice addition to my Smash Zone which I have a tendency to be over/under with once the lanes break down.
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Post by: Burak Natal on February 04, 2009, 04:00:18 PM
Lane,
I too find this ball to be a great addition to my arsenal. It is, indeed very strong pearl reactive! For comparison it is touch longer but definitely sharper than my polished Absolute. My Original Inferno looks like a urethane next to my WR! I'm seriously thinking about drilling an x-hole on my PAP to make it tamer.
I have tried it on couple of patterns, both THS and sports/flatter ones, and as long as you line up properly (relatively closer to friction) I haven't come across any "lack of backend".
I haven't tried any surface other than box yet.
IMO, the reason that there are so many "nay sayers" is the core. Remember, same problems was told also for TFPs.
Unlike the high-end pieces from other brands, this asymmetric core has considerably low differential. I believe, this makes it a bit shy to be a better match up for the majority (speed dominants, less rotation, and/or simply bowlers with relatively weaker releases).
With this core, I prefer:
Lower pins, stronger pin-PAP distances AND smaller drilling angles. Both TFD and WR has a natural length and unless I'm drilling for somebody with over 500 rpms, I do not prefer otherwise.
Additionally, asymmetrical piece with a low differential gives a driller many options for drier/shorter and flatter patterns.
I'll copy paste what I've written to another thread for the comparison part
Original Inferno (Snake Oil over 500 Abralon, 4-1/2 from PAP, pin even, no hole)
Absolute Inferno,(Snake Oil over 500 Abralon, 5-1/2 from PAP, high pin, no hole)
TFP (Snake Oil over 500 Abralon, 5-1/2X45X65, no hole)
Ultimate Inferno. (Snake Oil over 500 Abralon, 5-1/2 from PAP, high pin, strong hole)
All balls are relatively new and oil extracted and surface prepared couple of days ago.
Wild Ride is very close to my Absolute, being more responsive to dry with similar length. Original Inferno is good 5 to 8 boards weaker on all patterns I've tested so far. OI is very smooth in comparison to WR. Twisted Fury Pearl is close to OI, but touch cleaner and much sharper down the lane. IMO, Wild Ride is more than a step up from TFP. Ultimate, with current surface preps, is the strongest of all. Earlier and less effected by carry down.
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Post by: Dennis Rhodes on February 04, 2009, 08:54:33 PM
I have taken the surface to 1000 abralon with storm extra shine, and I added a flare increasing hole afterwards (2 1/2 inches down on the val). The drill is 4 inches pin to pap (puts pin under the bridge), with the psa at 2 3/4 inches from pap and an angle of 60 degrees.
With the current surface prep and added weight hole, I have absolute faith in this ball on numerous conditions and lane conditions. It is awesome, I can get in an boom it, or I can take a little hand out and increase the speed and still play the track (due to how clean the ball is through the front of the lane) when everybody else has migrated deeper. I have used this on wood, wood with guardian, and synthetics. I would have to say that it is great for medium/medium light in its current configuration. It is very adaptable, but you must watch your speed, because it still needs some friction somewhere.
I guess what I am trying to say is that the ball gives me a ton of options. On the right condition, the ball is very continuous. I would like to see one with a stronger drill.
Thanks,
Dennis
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Post by: Corey C on February 04, 2009, 10:04:29 PM
I actually stopped using it so I didn't wear it out too soon because I LOVE the reaction. I too think it reminds me of my Absolute pin high. This ball is now in my GO EVERYWHERE category along with my Total, Sidewinder and Fury Pearl.
On the PBA telecast it was pretty obvious the left lane was horrible and everyone had a hard time on it.
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Post by: HAMMERDOWN103 on February 05, 2009, 06:07:53 AM
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Post by: Burak Natal on February 05, 2009, 06:40:13 AM
Have you noticed that notclay kindly asked us to leave negative comments on other threads? This thread is for the positive feedback! It is also quite obvious from the title.
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Please continue to post any negative comments in the other threads.
On a side note, if 5X5 stands for pin-PAP distance and MB-PAP distance, MB should probably be around 70 degrees, which, in my opinion, is a bit higher for this core. It needs to get up earlier than higher diff cores. If that second "5" stands for the CG-PAP distance, than drilling angle would be way to high which leads to skid forever.
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Regards,
Natal
Post by: on February 05, 2009, 08:39:23 AM
Don't misunderstand my post. I recognize that there is NO BALL that will work for everyone! We all bowl on different conditions and we all throw the ball differently, too.
What I am asking for is where does it work BEST? That's all!
There is no other agenda here...
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Post by: BeansProShop on February 05, 2009, 09:23:42 AM
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Dear HmMrDwN103,
Have you noticed that notclay kindly asked us to leave negative comments on other threads? This thread is for the positive feedback! It is also quite obvious from the title.quote:
Please continue to post any negative comments in the other threads.
On a side note, if 5X5 stands for pin-PAP distance and MB-PAP distance, MB should probably be around 70 degrees, which, in my opinion, is a bit higher for this core. It needs to get up earlier than higher diff cores. If that second "5" stands for the CG-PAP distance, than drilling angle would be way to high which leads to skid forever.
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Regards,
Natal
Please..
I'm looking for honest feedback based on what people are saying and how they are using their WR..
Look, when the OI came out, there were a ton of rave reviews for the ball and the tour pro were tossing the crap out of them with a great reaction. Ball was money in just about everyones hand and was truly a versitle ball. There was none of this "I polished the bsll after hitting with 1000 grit abralon and had a weak drill pattern on it" crap. Same thing with the AI and UI..
Geez, you're starting to sound like the L#1 froum where all you want is people that will give positive reactions on a new ball.
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c(')(') here bunny bunny bunny....
OK,
You want a TRUE and HONEST review of this ball???
HERE GOES!!!
Ordered a Wild Ride for Fastracker and it came in. The MB was marked 6 inches from the pin. 6 INCHES!!! Acording to several well known current and former Brunswick guys. The MB "MUST" be 6 3/4" away from the pin on any Wild Ride. So, is Brunswick up to it's mismarking pins again scam??? The MB wouldn't be mismarked becasue they spin every ball right?? SO........I can't tell you how the ball rolls for Brian since he doesn't want to pay full price for another Brunswick BLEM!!! 1000's and 1000's of blems offered all the time. Maybe they are starting to push by close balls because their 1st quality inventory is so low..
LOSING PATIENCE WITH THIS COMPANY!!!
Undersized balls!!!!
Mismarked Pins and MB's
Double and Triple punched CG's on balls.
I can deal with color variance but when the tech dynamics are a guessing game. We have issues.
Beans
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Post by: tizzle on February 05, 2009, 10:58:10 AM
Post by: BeansProShop on February 05, 2009, 11:15:17 AM
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Why don't you just make up some BS marketing and sell it as a "rare gem" like you do with the rest of your garbage just to squeeze out some extra bucks? I saw your post for some used rental shoes. Are the shoelaces and velcro straps extra?
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The picture doesn't lie!
This isn't a Brunswick bash. It's the truth..
Very shotty quality at best..
WHO WANTS SUNGLASSES???
Beans
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Post by: on February 05, 2009, 11:17:35 AM
Brian contacted me last night. PM sent to you.
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Post by: on February 05, 2009, 11:20:19 AM
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Post by: OddBalls on February 05, 2009, 11:28:35 AM
I generally love BigB stuff, but as of late, they seem to be struggling with cover/core issues.
We've had what, 3 or 4 new covers and 3 or 4 new cores since the last Activator formulation and none of them (IMHO) seem to be working out.
What's up with that?? I've always believed that Brunswick has/had some of the finest R&D in the industry. Lately, it's been producing it's fair share of duds..
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