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Title: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: TJFreaky24 on September 15, 2005, 07:45:41 AM: Last night before league, I went into my local pro shop to get the thumbhole on a ball opened up a bit. While he worked on it I nosed around the shop. Voila..a brand new Smokin Inferno...yours all drilled up for the small cost of only 252.00 without grips and slug. I know that Pro shop owners have trouble competing with online sellers, but this is just to much money. Am I alone here?
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: Strapper_Squared on September 15, 2005, 03:52:03 PM: Our local shop is close to the same. Basically any of the high end equipment in stock runs around $230.... plus grips/slug. The only difference here is that league bowlers get a 10% discount ... LOL Hell... the new tropical storms are even $110!

I really want to support my local houses, but they make it tough...

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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: sportwood24 on September 15, 2005, 03:53:52 PM: its funny though that they get more money out of you anyway by not buying your balls from them by charging 75 to drill it! I bet they dont make that much when they sell a ball!
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: TJFreaky24 on September 15, 2005, 04:02:11 PM: He charges 60 to drill a blank ball with grips and slug. Sad that I could buy the ball offline and pay about 80 bucks less. I just can't support a shop at that price.
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: Wilbert on September 15, 2005, 04:30:47 PM: How about $189 including grips, slugs and 8 percent sales tax.
Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: Charles on September 15, 2005, 04:56:41 PM: Pro Shop operator I used to use would charge more money for drilling a ball that you brought in than one that you bought from him. He still made his money either way. About a $20 difference. He lost alot of business.
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: Matt Fortney on September 15, 2005, 08:24:52 PM: the shop at the center that i bowl at, most the high performance stuff is 165 plus grips and slug, 10 for each. so about 190 w/ tax. not too bad. the only stuff more than that is morich stuff, which is like 170 plus grips and slug.
Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: agroves on September 16, 2005, 12:09:19 AM: The smokins are going for 249 plus inserts 12-15 for thumb, 6-10 for finger, plus 8.5 sales tax. Thats $300 bucks, changed my mind real quick.

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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: Moe on September 16, 2005, 12:11:03 AM: 224 drilled and out the door with grips and a slug.

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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: Bluff on September 16, 2005, 12:27:12 AM: SI $150 shipped and drilled! No I am not smoking it
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: xratedbowler on September 16, 2005, 12:58:03 PM: i've bought three balls online and had them drilled fo 50 dollars with slugs all three were alot cheaper than three differnt pro shops i've been to. in my opion it is cheaper to buy the ball online (buddiesproshop.com) then take it to your local pro shop and have them drill it.
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: brinen28 on September 16, 2005, 01:10:00 PM: I have never bought a ball online, not unless it is discontinued or a hard to find item. Going into your local pro shop is just a better deal for me. I get to talk to someone that can give me the right ball for my game. He can look at my other equipment, how its drilled, and give me something to compliment my arsenal, instead of buying a New ball that does the same thing as the one i have. The reason pro shops charge so much for drilling is because of the internet. Say a ball costs 200 at the pro shop. You can get the ball for 125 online, plus shipping. Ok, say shipping is 15.00 that is 140. now 60 to drill puts you right at 200. Just think you need to support local pro shops instead of the online market.. are you really saving that much on a ball? I don't think so.
Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: BigWillyStyle on September 16, 2005, 01:10:50 PM: I've bought most of my new equipment at my local shop, just because when I want a new ball...I want it then. BUT, I also get a bit of a discount (10%). I know that my home house's shop charges more to drill balls that are bought somewhere else, but if they didn't, who would buy from them?

Big Willy Style

PS...Smokin Inferno runs $189+7% sales tax...and I think about $5 grips and $10 slug (I don't use that or pay for it if I did).
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: brinen28 on September 16, 2005, 01:12:48 PM: just a funny quote i read in an article...

kind of puts into a different perspective

I read an article somewhere that had the quote "Would you ever go to Outback Steakhouse with a steak you bought at the grocery store and ask them to cook it? Then why would you bring a blank bowling ball into a pro shop and ask him to drill it?"
Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: rackattack on September 16, 2005, 01:27:18 PM: Would you ask a pro shop to regrip a set of clubs you didn't buy there?
Would you ask a pro shop to string a raquet you didn't buy there?
Do you think they would say no or charge you double?
These examples are a litttle closer to apples to apples I think.
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: nd300 on September 16, 2005, 01:29:43 PM: At the Pro Shop in the lanes that I bowl in the new Trifecta is 239.95. Tropical Storm is 94.95. Mercury is 181.95.
One of my teammates bought a Big Time Pearl(new) for 156.95. With grips and tax it came to 175 and change.
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: brinen28 on September 16, 2005, 01:30:19 PM: I think drilling a bowling ball is a little more in depth than regripping or restringing. I mean, i dont think thats closer (and i am not comparing that back to the steak comment) but pro shop owners go to class for this stuff, and spend time and money enhancing their knowledge...
Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: Myser on September 16, 2005, 01:31:26 PM: I like my local pro shop, he doesn't mark stuff up to much (mabye a 40 dollar mark up) so a Smokin Inferno is like 110-120 plus 20 bucks for dilling + 8 for a slug and 4 more if u use finger inserts (i don't). But i konw what you mean TJfreaky24. there are other pro shops that i go to where i see everything high preformance between 180 and 210 w/ the exception of the new ball the "alein" whitch is going for 299.99, and from what the pro shop guy tells me he has already sold 10 of them.

I am somewhat spoiled though b/c i can get just about any ball new for between 20 and 90 dollars b/c I buy them through college bowling
Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: rackattack on September 16, 2005, 07:28:01 PM: Brinen,
I believe it takes time and effort to be a professional in any endevor.My examples were given with the assumption that the pro shops actually employed professionals to perform the service.I'm going to guess you have never regripped a set of clubs or restrung a raquet or you would not hold these tasks in such low reguard.

My point was that I believe in both cases the service would be performed in a professional manner at a set price reguardless of where the equipment came from.

I purchase my equipment online and locally.I will price the ball online and call my driller with the quote.If it is a popular ball,Smokin Inferno for example,he can usually come within $10-$20 of my price with drill and I will purchase the ball from him.If the ball is rare,Dyno-Thane Element AU79 for example,or not in stock his price will be much higher and he will recommend I buy online.In both cases his fee for drilling in EXACTLY the same.

This way of doing business may have cost him a few dollars on the ball end but he has more than made up for it with the 50+ customers I have sent to him.
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: killswitch66 on September 16, 2005, 07:37:21 PM: yes my local pro shop guy is expensive, most the the new high-performance balls go for $225 drilled. i want to support him but he makes it hard. but he does me me 10% off everything i buy from him, so its not so bad. and he charges $15-$35 per drill (if the balls not from him), one time he charged me $35 for a drill with fingertips and a slug, then the next time he charged me $15 for the same thing, so im not sure. he is a super nice guy though
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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: rackattack on September 16, 2005, 08:24:57 PM: 170 drilled is a great deal.

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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: brinen28 on September 17, 2005, 02:01:47 PM: Thanks TTBDepot,

That is exactly what I was referring to. I wonder how many consumers know if their pro shop is CERTIFIED. I guess those who dont will never know the difference until you have been to one.

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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: ctturtle on September 17, 2005, 02:20:00 PM: Where I bowl they charge $30 to drill whether you buy it there or not and the balls usually sell for 70% to 80% of suggested retail. Small center not near the city.
Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: brinen28 on September 17, 2005, 02:28:16 PM: In response to those 2 posts, The way I look at it is you get what you pay for. If you pay 30 bucks to get the ball drilled, u got a 30 dollar drill. just punch 3 holes in the ball and that is. A smaller shop outside the city, I can maybe see that as more of an OK thing.

I am more used to the 2nd post. 245 for a high end ball, 80 (well 60 where I go) for a blank ball with no grips. If you dont mind me asking, what city are you located in, where it is 80 to drill?
Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: wheels02 on September 17, 2005, 10:19:40 PM: In my local pro shop the SI is $185 drilled with inserts and thumb.
Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: Slopsurprise on September 17, 2005, 10:37:24 PM: I just bought a "Morich Total shock and awe" and a "Track Desert heat" for $160 and $130 with inserts and slugs. Of course, that was with 5% tax added on top of those prices. That was at a pro shop about an hour away. The local guy would have charged probally, $230 and $200 for the same balls and drilling. I cant say the same drilling, the more expensive guy has worse service and his work is not as good!!!!

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Title: Re: Wow...talk about expensive
Post by: TwoFourEightNineNine on September 17, 2005, 11:19:11 PM: I am getting some high performance balls for $165 out the door.

No worries here. He is able to sell to me at this price because he is in charge of drilling balls for their learn to bowl leagues, entry level ball packages, viz-a-ball leagues and he does them non stop throughout the day.

I am, however just getting basic work done here... no beveling, no oval cutting... etc. I come in, lay out my lines, he cuts them, an exhange of cash, a handshake, and then I will take care of the rest at home or in the shop.

He's really far though, so I am now planning my own garage project... considering all the balls that I get drilled, this is likely a bad investment but a good hobby for me.
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