Post by: kspept on April 15, 2007, 04:59:36 PM
I am not positive one way or another that this kid is not on the level, but I would like to share my experience with him, to possibly save some nice BR member from possibly being burned.
I have a small list of balls for sale and/or trade (says in the thread, only NIB balls) up on the for sale forum. I was contacted by stormbowler299, offering me an Ebonite NV (not Total NV) in trade for two of the balls. I agreed to the deal, but asked that he either provide me with some solid feedback, or ship the ball first, and I would ship the two balls to him upon reciept. All was agreed upon, and he was gonna give the ball to his dad the next day to ship, because his dad works for the post office. I was confident things in this transaction would go smooth, and even PM'ed onther BR memeber (Pate08 or something similar) to offer him a trade of the NV, for his Phoenix,once the NV arrived. I get a PM the next day from stormbowler299, saying he was taking the ball to his dad at the post office, but accidentaly dropped it in the parking lot, and damaged to the point what he says, his drilled said is unrepairable. I accepted this for what it was, thinking it sounded strange, but maybe the highly unlikely has happened, and cancel my trade for the Phoenix, with sincere apologies for having to back out of a deal that I thought was solid. The next day, I am out in Reno on vacation for the week, and I log on to "ttt" my for sale post, only to find, that this guy has posted a thread, offering the ball up for sale. I contacted him to find out what was going on, and he said this was a different ball, with different drilling, and he doubted I would want it. I asked him for specs, and he says he already has a ttade for it, but he has a friend who has one, and his friend may want to trade.
Well, after writing that whole novel, I just want all the good BR memebers to know that something seems very very suspicious about this guy and his offers to trade this NV. I have all our PM's documented, and can provide them as proof if need be. I am sorry I won't be able to respond again to this until I return, but I fear if I wait to say anything until I get back, someone may have already been ripped off. Like the title says, BUYER BEWARE!! -Kyle
Post by: Mvpbowler on April 16, 2007, 01:03:04 AM
About 5 mins after he responded back it was back up on the forum for trade or sale.. intersting
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 10:40:01 AM
Post by: Version1 on April 16, 2007, 10:50:30 AM
Post by: rymacatthedisco on April 16, 2007, 11:20:17 AM
neways...
kepept is a good uy to deal with, i no that his talks and transactions are good...so im not going against him here or wut not, BUT..for the time ive been discussing things with stormbowler they seem to be just fine, nothing wrong with our talks of trade and wut not, things have gone very smoothly and everything like that...like he said he backed out on a deal he decided he didnt want, it happens ALL the time on here, ive done it b4 but thats cuz i didnt receive the money i was supposed to get...i mean it happens so basically until i see otherwise strombowler seems fine to me
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 11:52:25 AM
Was the grammer in this post up to par?
Post by: KDawg77 on April 16, 2007, 11:53:25 AM
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Post by: directdrill on April 16, 2007, 11:55:17 AM
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Yes ive made a deal for it, Is that what I have to do is delete the posts? I'm not sure if that is how it goes.
Was the grammer in this post up to par?
No, the grammar was not up to par. You misspelled grammar. Try again.
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 12:29:50 PM
Post by: rymacatthedisco on April 16, 2007, 01:15:00 PM
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Post by: Buzzhead on April 16, 2007, 04:04:46 PM
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Post by: rymacatthedisco on April 16, 2007, 04:14:25 PM
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Post by: FastTracker33 on April 16, 2007, 04:20:15 PM
Dis is a funE thred peeps.
haha, but on a serious note, i've noticed the same thing, and right when i saw it i knew it was a fraud post.
Buyer Beware.
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 07:33:47 PM
Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 07:49:50 PM
Post by: clintdaley on April 16, 2007, 08:00:00 PM
If you would have been around when there was ripoff artists were working this board (and there still seems to be a few here and there) you would understand why people are jumping all over you....
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 08:05:01 PM
Post by: clintdaley on April 16, 2007, 08:06:00 PM
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Post by: walley 3261 on April 16, 2007, 08:06:33 PM
2: Heard the balls I traded for were no good
3: I traded to quick and just wanted to see what else I could get.
Well which 1 is it. I know you don't owe me anything just thought you might want to set the record straight for all who are involved.
Jim
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 08:12:34 PM
Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 08:14:15 PM
Post by: walley 3261 on April 16, 2007, 08:15:12 PM
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Post by: Mvpbowler on April 16, 2007, 08:34:30 PM
Second stormbowler, I have many references on here, I have posted on here for many years and know many of the members on here! I simply sent you an email telling you that I would rather not do a deal and that I apologize ahead of time and appreciate your understanding. You sent a reply with umm... ok. That is part of the reason I didn't get my head chewed off.
On a side note just out of curiosity how is it short hand? Storm typed any1, was it really that much harder to type 2 more letters and type out anyone? The problem with short type is it makes things harder to read and understand exactly what you are saying. Perhaps in the next few years you will see a class in middle or high school called Short hand typing?!?
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 08:49:51 PM
Post by: jchosea on April 16, 2007, 08:58:34 PM
Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 09:02:51 PM
Post by: Strider on April 16, 2007, 09:08:15 PM
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y does every1 care how i type its just ezer that way and im not a dumb kid my ne streach of the imagination and yes as i sed b4 i made a mistake and it wont happen again and i appreciate you b ing strait 4word with me on not wanting 2 trade
Read my profile, below my equipment. I think it looks horrible, makes it very hard to read, and I think it will eventually effect how you write, spell, and think. I type on a computer much more than I write with a pen or pencil and my penmanship has definitely suffered. The more you do it, the more you think of it as normal and rationalize it's use, even in formal situations I don't care if it becomes a recognized form of communication. I will never use it.
I see tons of people who no longer even know the difference between words like to, too, and two; write and right, your and you're; threw and through...
I thought "prolly" was awful. "Ezer" might be worse. Most of these abbreviations save you ONE keystroke.
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 09:20:29 PM
Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 09:47:31 PM
You have to put me on your ignore list because of the way I type thats pretty dumb!!
Also I will have you know that I am ranked number seven in my school in my trade area and on the achademic side witch is probably more than you can say for yourself.
Post by: laneman on April 16, 2007, 09:56:49 PM
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Wow are you two?
You have to put me on your ignore list because of the way I type thats pretty dumb!!
Also I will have you know that I am ranked number seven in my school in my trade area and on the achademic side witch is probably more than you can say for yourself.
Is that the "witch" from the East or West?
Think you ment "which"
They have a spell checker when you post.
Edited on 4/16/2007 9:58 PM
Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 10:00:12 PM
Post by: rymacatthedisco on April 16, 2007, 10:17:30 PM
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Post by: themagician on April 16, 2007, 10:25:30 PM
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 10:31:27 PM
Post by: themagician on April 16, 2007, 10:34:14 PM
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no way im not getting off this site bcuz i backed out of a deal no way i have had 3 guys back out on deals with me now cuz of this bogus post and im not causing problems i keep getting ragged on because of the way i type
I would love to see you prove what is bogus about this topic. I'm sure not seeing anything bogus, its all the truth and its blatantly obvious what you did and you make it seem like lying is a fine thing to do, good luck in the real world dude.
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Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 10:36:50 PM
Post by: laneman on April 16, 2007, 10:45:30 PM
Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 10:51:33 PM
Post by: alcornel on April 16, 2007, 10:54:37 PM
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wow is this all u guys do is sit on the computer and rag on kids
I am not ragging and normally wouldn't say anything, but I admit that I don't read anything seriously that is written like what is above. I am more than internet savvy, but at my age (40 now) I am not an IM sort of person (and many people here on BR are the same). You are not going to be taken seriously by many people if you write like this. I understand the 'shorthand' for IM. But here you are typing on a keyboard, and it isn't too hard to write a coherent sentence, use a spellchecker, and at least capitalize 'I'.
On an even more important note. In life, just own up to what you have done. Lying about dropping the ball loses your credibility in my eyes. In the future, you will have a hard time doing any deals on BR. I hope you have learned from this - that is what life is about, learning from our mistakes and doing things better.
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Post by: laneman on April 16, 2007, 11:00:06 PM
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wow is this all u guys do is sit on the computer and rag on kids
I am not ragging and normally wouldn't say anything, but I admit that I don't read anything seriously that is written like what is above. I am more than internet savvy, but at my age (40 now) I am not an IM sort of person (and many people here on BR are the same). You are not going to be taken seriously by many people if you write like this. I understand the 'shorthand' for IM. But here you are typing on a keyboard, and it isn't too hard to write a coherent sentence, use a spellchecker, and at least capitalize 'I'.
On an even more important note. In life, just own up to what you have done. Lying about dropping the ball loses your credibility in my eyes. In the future, you will have a hard time doing any deals on BR. I hope you have learned from this - that is what life is about, learning from our mistakes and doing things better.
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Same thoughts here..
Post by: JL299 on April 16, 2007, 11:13:45 PM
Post by: gsback on April 17, 2007, 10:29:13 AM
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ok im a good kid that made a mistake my bad
Still going to have to build a reputation before people will trust you regardless. It's already been stated, so expect it.
As for the balls that were bad....very curious to know exactly what you were trading for and what qualifications said people have in making the determination that balls were, what I guess I can call turds, since people told you they were no good.
As for MVPBowler, and I don't think this was covered, if it were me, I'd have every right to back out from a deal with you. I've been here, though not as this nic, for a long while. I've had probably 50 buys/sells/trades here. With that comes the privilege to ask you to ship first and if you don't, I will easily rescind any offers made. There are plenty of others that shipped to me first, and I had to do the same.
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Post by: JL299 on April 17, 2007, 10:42:41 AM
Also you guys are saying that if i have feed back it is totally ok to back out of deals but if you dont have feedback u get asked to leave the site....huh makes sense to me.
Edited on 4/17/2007 10:49 AM
Post by: gsback on April 17, 2007, 11:24:19 AM
Let me rephrase the backing out as I should have included the part of how you do it. It's already been stated that there is a correct way and many wrong ways. Of course it's ok to back out, but the ball being dropped isn't acceptable if it didn't happen. That's already been hashed out though.
If there the ball was something I wanted, yes, I would deal with you. On my conditions though, which you've said you accepted. And that's fine.
All in all, people here, those that have been here, are more than accepting of others and understand that things come up. It's all in proper communication.
And I am in the same arena as I was told by someone that he would get back to me on the shirts I had.....was interested and would let me know, nay or yeah, the next day. That was sometime last week. No word yet....go figure.
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Post by: rymacatthedisco on April 17, 2007, 11:28:20 AM
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FOS!!!
Diamonds...she'll pretty much HAVE to!!!
Post by: rymacatthedisco on April 18, 2007, 11:57:42 PM
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RYAN MCDANIEL...Northern Illinois University bowling
FOS!!!
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Post by: 302efi on April 19, 2007, 03:26:07 PM
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It's all in proper communication.
Letting people know whats going on and not keeping them in the dark is the key to everything.
9/10 times, all buyer/seller problems would be haulted before they get started if proper communiction was used buy both partys !
Good post g_thing (LOL~)
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Post by: gsback on April 19, 2007, 09:20:43 PM
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Post by: kspept on April 20, 2007, 11:16:16 AM
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on April 20, 2007, 11:23:39 AM
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im not ignorant its just how i type on aol so its a habbit
You use AOL!?
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Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on April 20, 2007, 11:24:24 AM
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OK, I have read through all of this
Kudos. I can't understand half the posts.
What is a neways?
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Post by: kspept on April 20, 2007, 11:45:01 AM
Post by: kspept on April 22, 2007, 07:14:18 PM
Post by: rackattack on April 24, 2007, 06:17:33 AM
Who appointed you guys judge and jury.Let the kid post his gear and make his best deal.He hasn't ripped anyone off and has been a lot more respectful in his replies to you than I would have been.
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Edited on 4/24/2007 6:17 AM