Post by: lilmike2782 on April 03, 2004, 05:54:45 AM
Post by: KMAN300 on April 03, 2004, 09:10:48 PM
I did not get burned but I think I could have ......??
Well he scared me away !!! This is just one of those things that make you go HUMMMMMMMM!!!!! JuSt Be CaReFuL Friends.....
Post by: Rev_O on April 03, 2004, 09:55:38 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 03, 2004, 10:02:56 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 03, 2004, 10:02:59 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 04, 2004, 12:35:02 AM
Sounds like it was traded to about 3 people, or more.
See my post on same ball with same guy.
REgards,
Luckylefty
PS this is what is meant by "keepin your options open"
Post by: Strider on April 04, 2004, 05:01:35 PM
Similar MO? Trying to trade with several people at once? Have person A ship to B and receive a ball from C? May be good for shipping costs, but hard to place blame if one of the combo deals goes bad.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on April 04, 2004, 07:04:55 PM
BUT, at this time Crazy11 is in active contact with me and promising to send me a $15 plugging fee. When it arrives I feel that he is made the appropriate effort to right this wrong and have a strong feeling it might never happen again.
I'm willing to let up on this.
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: lilmike2782 on April 04, 2004, 07:26:49 PM
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GET ER DONE!
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 04, 2004, 07:43:26 PM
But sometimes ya have to give up on anger.
I had a similar situation about a year ago with another new user on this site.
I went off!!! Just like I have above and more! The GUY DID change his ID.
I and several others smoked him out.
He fessed up, flew right and became a well respected member on ballreviews.
Doing many deals after this. In fact he even sold and posted under his REAL NAME. I respected the fact that he stood and and accepted responsibility!
This guy Crazy11 IS trying to change his MO, I think.
I have now calmed my slow starting but hot burning Irish Dander for now, and am willing to see the actual results of what turns out. It is hard for me to figure how someone could possibly cement 4 deals for a ball but, well it happened.
Currently I am trying to obtain a ball and have two offers from two other bowlers. I've notified at least one that I'm considering other offers and will soon notify the other. It's that easy!
Anyway. I'm willing to forgive at times, maybe this is one of those times!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: lilmike2782 on April 04, 2004, 08:00:40 PM
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GET ER DONE!
Post by: LuckyLefty on April 15, 2004, 01:44:11 PM
At this time I would deal with him again and expect it to go smoothly.
REgards,
Luckylefty
PS not everyone would have done this.
Post by: Rev_O on April 15, 2004, 08:09:59 PM
Where is my $15 CRAZY11??????????????
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 15, 2004, 10:03:42 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 15, 2004, 10:23:24 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: lilmike2782 on April 15, 2004, 10:24:00 PM
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GET ER DONE!
Post by: Rev_O on April 15, 2004, 10:26:09 PM
so stick that in your pipe and smoke it Mr. Barker.
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 15, 2004, 10:27:38 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 15, 2004, 10:29:18 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: botelerc on April 15, 2004, 10:36:03 PM
Don't want to butt in on yalls argument, but there is more than one kind of thumb slug. There are also thumb sleeves. But there is a hard plastic and a urethane thumb slug. Just an observation.
Silky-C
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What can I say, I'm from the south! I know how to work a SAW
Post by: Rev_O on April 16, 2004, 06:10:30 AM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 16, 2004, 07:38:38 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Strider on April 16, 2004, 09:57:54 PM
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Post by: Rev_O on April 16, 2004, 10:09:36 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: kleetus300 on April 16, 2004, 11:56:24 PM
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I wish I could turn the ball like Dave tha fluffer
Post by: Rev_O on April 17, 2004, 09:49:26 PM
how long does it take for mail to go from michigan to ohio?????
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 18, 2004, 03:01:21 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Strider on April 18, 2004, 03:12:47 PM
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Post by: Rev_O on April 18, 2004, 08:11:29 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 19, 2004, 04:06:23 PM
he wont return my messages now either. he's a REAL adult!!!???
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: kleetus300 on April 19, 2004, 08:53:49 PM
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I wish I could turn the ball like Dave tha fluffer
Post by: Rev_O on April 21, 2004, 06:20:21 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 23, 2004, 02:09:48 AM
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as expected, another day with no $15 from crazy11. i will post this every day until it arrives.
i wish this child would just pay me the $15 he owes me already.
what happened now jimbo, the dog eat the money order?????
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 23, 2004, 03:11:57 PM
dude, please just be honest.
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 24, 2004, 04:16:43 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: lilmike2782 on April 24, 2004, 04:30:23 PM
if i were you, if you said you sent the money out already and really didn't, you better just drive your butt to rev-o's house and deliver it yourself, cause you are digging yourself a very deep hole.
i know you been answering my posts trying to be nice by recommending potential buyers for my ball (acutally your old ball) and trying to salvage any type of respect on here. but until you make amends with rev-o, i still can't trust you.
its $15, is it that hard to pay up.
and then when you do imagine it will finally be over, and you don't have to sign on here everday waiting to defend yourself on this post. you pay up to rev-o and i know it first hand from him, then i will delete this post and all the messages that come with it.
mike
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GET ER DONE!
Post by: brimar on April 24, 2004, 04:41:58 PM
the 11 probably stands for his age.
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Post by: lilmike2782 on April 24, 2004, 04:45:53 PM
and on rev-o's defense i don't think its about the 15 bucks, its the principal of the whole matter.
just my opinion
mike
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GET ER DONE!
Post by: lilmike2782 on April 24, 2004, 04:48:16 PM
mike
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GET ER DONE!
Post by: Rev_O on April 24, 2004, 06:10:05 PM
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and on rev-o's defense i don't think its about the 15 bucks, its the principal of the whole matter.
your opinion is a good one.
i just get sick and tired of hearing "the check is in the mail" when we all know he had no intention of sending it. I just want to treat him like an adult, since he things he is one.
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: lilmike2782 on April 24, 2004, 06:21:25 PM
mike
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GET ER DONE!
Post by: Rev_O on April 24, 2004, 06:30:27 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Juggernaut on April 24, 2004, 06:55:35 PM
Thanx guys for posting this. maybe he doesn't think it makes a difference, but to me it does. I was on the brink of making an offer to him for a bag he had for sale, but thanks to this, I wouldn't buy a grilled chees sandwich from this guy.
I know mistakes are made everyday, but he seems to be telling too many people too many stories about things.
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Just call me Darreyl, it's much easier to say!
Post by: Rev_O on April 24, 2004, 06:57:17 PM
time will only tell.
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: BigBZ on April 25, 2004, 04:46:34 AM
ps-one thing I have to give crazy credit for....was atleast me promptly replyed back to me, if he wanted to accept my offer or not.(which is more than I can say for a couple of others that I made offers to)
pps-REV-O I hope you shame him enough into getting your $15!!!<G>
Edited on 4/25/2004 4:40 AM
Post by: Rev_O on April 26, 2004, 01:35:40 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 27, 2004, 04:51:34 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: MTFD24 on April 27, 2004, 07:27:00 PM
I just was informed by Crazy11 that the reason he deleted the posts regarding his camera was that it has been "sold", actually traded for a ball. Hopefully whoever is getting this camera realizes that it can be had for less than $50.00 retail new with warranty, and purchase through E-Bay for about half of that!
Caveat Emptor!
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Edited on 4/27/2004 8:40 PM
Post by: Rev_O on April 28, 2004, 06:27:56 PM
just wondering why the return addy on the envelope is from kyle klettner if you are not him??????
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: kleetus300 on April 28, 2004, 08:06:12 PM
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I wish I could turn the ball like Dave tha fluffer
Post by: Mrtaz2u300 on April 28, 2004, 08:55:12 PM
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I Bowl to win...
Post by: Rev_O on April 28, 2004, 09:10:38 PM
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I think I know why he sent it from MY name. Probably to cover the fact that he is Matt Wagar. If you all don't remember him, just do a search for xxpipologyxx (or however thats spelled) or tmaxx11, now known as crazy11. Like I said before, I'm just the person shipping stuff. I'm alittle mad (more than a little mad actually) that he said he was sending the money order out with a name different than mine, cause I don't want to get involved more than I am already (too late now). Anyways, I know that Doug Sterner is doing a deal with him right now for a golden nugget, so please go ahead and talk to him if you wont take my word for it, but you have no reason not to seeing as I have all positive feedback and have been nothing but helpful to everyone I've talked to on here.
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that's funny, cause crazyass11 told me his name is jim landon......
From: crazy11
Received: 4/28/2004 6:30:55 PM
Subject: hey 15$
Message: i did send it at the post office in Birchwood Mall i thought i put my name Jim Landon on it i must have put that one on dougs and quit calling me a DUMBASS god dam it all u do is whine
I wish I could turn the ball like Dave tha fluffer
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 28, 2004, 09:17:24 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: kleetus300 on April 28, 2004, 09:19:01 PM
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I wish I could turn the ball like Dave tha fluffer
Post by: Rev_O on April 28, 2004, 09:27:27 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: kleetus300 on April 28, 2004, 09:30:53 PM
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I wish I could turn the ball like Dave tha fluffer
Post by: Rev_O on April 28, 2004, 09:33:50 PM
you start calling me crap saying all i do is bowl and i am a loser. i have a great job, great wife, and great child. you need to grow up son. michigan isn't that far from ohio ya know.
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Strider on April 28, 2004, 09:36:27 PM
You are a complete fraud. You can't make up names, not follow through on deals, not pay your debts, etc., and expect people to turn the other cheek time and time again. If you tried half of this stuff on friends or the local proshop, you would either be in juvie or have your butt whipped. If you don't have a clue, don't take it out on Ballreviews.
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Post by: Rev_O on April 28, 2004, 09:53:49 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Strider on April 28, 2004, 11:19:06 PM
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on April 29, 2004, 01:33:58 AM
I went on to tell Matt that if he comes correct, and comes clean with the people that he misled that eventually he would or COULD start to develope a better reputation. I never heard back from "xxxpipologyxxx" or Matt Wager/Wagner. He has been around under different user names. That is just another bad move on his part, hiding his identity did him no good, that basically admits guilt.
***L*** I think that is still the single most read and posted topic in the history of this site. It was titled "xxxpipologyxxx WARNING" I think. Check it out, it makes for good reading.
Another bad thing is that when all of that went down, it seemed like Matt had learned his lesson, just as he posted earlier saying he has learned his lesson and Do unto others stuff. I really want to give him benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately it seems like he is beyond that now. In his defense about this Crunch he seemed to have sold to so many people, atleast payment was not sent and he kept the ball.
My suggestion to Matt, if you plan on dealing on here in the future, go back to your xxxpipologyxxx user name, and correct all of your wrongs. People will post that you can through on deals, even if they are old ones. Build yourself back up, because you are on the ground right now, and only hurting yourself more.
-EX-
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Post by: Rev_O on April 29, 2004, 05:59:07 AM
then when i tell him i'm not happy with the condition of the ball, that it obviously has more than the 10 games he claims it has, he offers to send me $15.
he finally sends the $15 (18 days later) but fails to sign the darn thing.
i give up. just everyone stay away from anyone under 18 on here. isnt there a way ballreviews.com can block his IP addy so that he cant just change usernames and or create a new account with a new email addy????
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on April 29, 2004, 06:02:03 AM
He is a very misleading CHILD, that someday, will piss off the wrong individual.
Dont drop the soap pal!!!
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: MTFD24 on April 29, 2004, 07:44:48 AM
Can a leopard change it's spots? Does not seem so in this case. I recently have had two fantastic transactions, including one with Excalibur. And with your past and presnt history find it appalling that no one until now has revealed this fascade of yours.
It is people such as yourself, and thoughs that assist you, including those that know your true identity, that make for this sites deterioration. IMHO.
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Post by: card79 on April 29, 2004, 03:10:54 PM
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I don't really play cards and I am not 79, but it fits together somehow.
Post by: tenpin on April 29, 2004, 03:43:58 PM
Post by: card79 on April 29, 2004, 03:51:43 PM
News flash dummy. I wouldn't have ripped anyone off to begin with so I wouldn't have done either one. Ask anyone who has done a deal with me. I am starting to think people like me are a dying bread though. People make me sad. I would much rather have a handshake with someone than a contract, but shoot most could look you in the eye and lie.
Matt you need to get help. Stop using everyone elses name and all that junk and just go away. Somebody give me this kids phone number I am tired of him and all of this. His parents need talked to and if that doesn't work maybe I will go next door here and talk to the authorities. Real handy that way working for the government and all.
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I don't really play cards and I am not 79, but it fits together somehow.
Post by: Rev_O on April 29, 2004, 08:51:40 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"
Post by: Rev_O on May 05, 2004, 10:37:26 PM
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Rev-O
"I only have 3 boards to work with, and they all have arrows on them!!"