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General Category => Buyer-Seller Feedback => Topic started by: JOE FALCO on April 11, 2006, 01:45:13 PM
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I am the winner of a RAFFLE held by IKE on March 3 2006. The raffle had 10 tickets for $15 each. The winner could choose any NIB ball excluding LANE1 and LEGENDS! Being the winner I advised IKE that my choice was a TRACK MACHINE on March 12. NOTE: Ike never was in contact with me to advise of my winning .. I initiated the contacts!
There has been an exchange of Email's with he and I .. him making numerous excuses and me making plenty of requests for delivery. His latest note claims that he is at college and his SUPPLIER was on VACATION. He stated that the ball would be in the mail on April 5. As of today I have not received the ball .. a TRACKING NUMBER or heard any more from him.
Ike had run a NUMBER OF RAFFLES earlier in the year and at that time I started a posting to verify that the balls were being delivered. Apparently he was honoring all the RAFFLES and winning BR members reported satisfaction.
EVIDENTLY IKE has changed his position. I think he has NO INTENTION to make good this delivery. In NOT DELIVERING he has done me WRONG in that I did not receive something I gambled on and WON .. and it works out that he cheated NINE other members who were in the raffle buying entries in GOOD FAITH!
I have written numerous Email's to IKE and his responses lead me to believe he is NOT TO BE TRUSTED .. Even if I eventually get the ball .. the aggravation is NOT WORTH IT.
I suggest IKE be considered A BAD CHOICE to do business with from this point forward!
I would appreciate it if BR members bombard IKETOWN300 with mail asking: WHY HASN'T JOE FALCO RECEIVED HIS WINNING BALL FROM THE MARCH 3 RAFFLE?
Thanks!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
Edited on 4/11/2006 9:44 PM
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Edited on 4/17/2006 11:29 AM
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Thanks Hawkeye!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Joe, DPAT Seems to be having the same issue. Same excuses too. So You are not the only one.
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Cody
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I had similar problems with this seller about a year ago. However at the time, noone else had the same issues. I had actually purchased a ball from him and paid him, only to never receive the ball. He eventually gave me my money back after about a month and a half. It simpy is not worth the aggravation to deal with this guy.
I also suggest BUYER BEWARE!!
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PM sent to Iketown300, Joe ... I hope that you get the ball !!!
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it took me over 3 months to get my ball from teh raffle I won last year.
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Doug Sterner
Doug's Pro Shop
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thats cuz its not an excuse. he was on vacation and just got back this past weekend. i emailed him and told both joe and dpat what the deal was with as soon as i hear from him i will either get ur money back or make sure the ball is on its way if not already on its way. i have never screwed anyone on this board at anytime. But Joe u r getting a ball for 15 bucks which aint bad i dont think. Before he left for vacation, i told both joe and dpat that he was out of machines (what joe wants) and ones (what dpat wants 2 of). i have kept up with communications with you both. i cant help he hasnt received his shipment nor that he forgot to tell me he went on vacation.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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thats cuz its not an excuse. he was on vacation and just got back this past weekend. i emailed him and told both joe and dpat what the deal was with as soon as i hear from him i will either get ur money back or make sure the ball is on its way if not already on its way. i have never screwed anyone on this board at anytime. But Joe u r getting a ball for 15 bucks which aint bad i dont think. Before he left for vacation, i told both joe and dpat that he was out of machines (what joe wants) and ones (what dpat wants 2 of). i have kept up with communications with you both. i cant help he hasnt received his shipment nor that he forgot to tell me he went on vacation.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
so your guy has been on vacation for what, 2 months?
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Cody
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I didn't say we WERE NOT COMMUNICATING .. I said IKE is giving a LOT OF EXCUSES. Here is his last note:
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From: Iketown300
Received: 4/4/2006 11:51:54 AM
Subject: machine
Message: hey joe, it hasnt been 30 days since u notified me of what ball u wanted. u told me about a week after the drawing closed. however i just got back today and he emailed me to tell me he was on vacation and he forgot to tell me. i am sending him what u want when i get home cuz i am at college now and all that stuff is on my computer at home so the ball should be going out tomorrow.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
If that doesn't say the ball should be going out on the 5th .. somebody set me straight!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Honestly, If you cant get what people order out in a TIMELY Fashion, then you just shouldnt do deals on here.
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Cody
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I bought a saw blade from Iketown300 before and i had no problems with him. that is just my experience. I received the ball 2 days after i paid.
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Actually... it was three The Ones and one Target Zone. At this point I just want my money back or the balls now...
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DPAT, you should look for the Local PD's Number, call them.
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Cody
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But Joe u r getting a ball for 15 bucks which aint bad i dont think.
This is what I mean about IKE!What does this comment say .. he talks about me getting a ball for $15 and forgets that he has $150 PAID TO HIM for the ball .. HE IS NOT A PERSON TO DO BUSINESS WITH!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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no joe actually i get about 20 dollars for the raffle the rest goes to my guy for the ball to have him ship it to you. This is why i quit the raffle for awhile because things just seem to come up where sometimes my guy cant get the stuff out in a "timely manner". When i buy stuff from him cuz its so cheap i could care less about how long i wait but that is just me. i totally understand where u guys r coming from and after u guys get ur balls now or money back then i am only goin to sell stuff i have or if u need something u dont have to pay until i get the ball in hand.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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Just curious, will you be sending back each individual's raffle entry fee or all the raffle fee collected will go to the winner.
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I've done a few deals with Ike and have never had any problems whatsoever. I'm sorry that a couple of you are having issues, but I think it's a bit much to go around bashing the hell out of a reputable seller, especially when all that you're losing here is a bit of time.
It seems as if he plans to get you your gear or your money back, ergo, you won't be losing anything. I certainly understand that part of being a good seller involves shipping in a timely fashion, but you must understand that he cannot ship you what he does not have in his possession. If he is waiting on his supplier to get you what you want, all he can do is wait until he is delivered the goods so that he can get them to you.
I'm not saying that Ike is 100% in the right here. It sounds as if he's gotten himself over extended and cannot meet his demand in a timely fashion. You must realize, though, that Ike is not selling things in the traditional format. He does not have boxes of balls sitting in his room waiting to go out. He is offereing you the chance to get anything you want. By doing that, he must wait for you to give him your request and then set out to get the balls from his supplier. That leaves a lot of people involved and means that he is waiting just like you are.
I understand that, since you are dealing only with him, you're going to put the blame on him. That's fine; I would probably feel the same. However, I don't think that everyone else is justified in piling on. Ike has been around this board for a while now, and I've never heard of anyone getting ripped off by him. I for one, will not hesitate to do business with him again, if the opportunity presents itself.
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I've only bowled 300, but I've benched 345 : )
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I've done a few deals with Ike and have never had any problems whatsoever. I'm sorry that a couple of you are having issues, but I think it's a bit much to go around bashing the hell out of a reputable seller, especially when all that you're losing here is a bit of time.
It seems as if he plans to get you your gear or your money back, ergo, you won't be losing anything. I certainly understand that part of being a good seller involves shipping in a timely fashion, but you must understand that he cannot ship you what he does not have in his possession. If he is waiting on his supplier to get you what you want, all he can do is wait until he is delivered the goods so that he can get them to you.
Maybe it would help if he would get the balls in his possesion before he posts the raffle.........
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Big Columbia, I couldn't because then i would have to have every ball possible because you get to choose whatever ball you want. Thats why i thought it would work better since u can choose whatever and not from the 30-40 that i have here.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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The only suggestion that I would make, and Ike has already posted something saying something similar, is to not collect the money until the he has the ball in his possession. My advice to buyers, though, is to realize that this raffle process does not really lend itself to getting your stuff in the standard 3-4 days. In the end, the winner will get a performance ball for $15, but they will have to wait for it. I still think it's a very good deal.
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I've only bowled 300, but I've benched 345 : )
I provide the muscle for the Fellowship of the Saws
Edited on 4/12/2006 9:55 AM
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hey iketown is a a good guy. i did a deal with him and got exactly what i paid for. im sure he is doing his best, its hard to do business when ur at college, iw ould know. i buy and sell balls all the time, but with a busy schedule its a pain in the behind. hes a class act with me, and i KNOW he will get you your stuff.
after all u only paid 15 bucks for a 150 ball. if the penalty is waiting a week or even a month. ill wait.
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Brunswick Man.....for life
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I will chime in on this since I have dealt with IKE many times. If there was something stated in the raffle that the winning bidder will have to wait a certain period of time before he gets the winning ball, then waiting is acceptable. If there was nothing posted about the extended wait, then I don't blame Joe Falco for being mad.. I don't care how much he is paying for the ball.. That should have been explained to him..
Like I said, I have done multiple deals with IKE and for the most part, they where all OK. I did have one instance where I felt like he was ignoring my messages and such and he finally stated he was really busy with school, bowling and whatever. I totally understand and respect he has his hands full, but he should still do whatever it takes to keep people informed of whats going on regardless what he has going on in his life. It only takes a sec to write a quick email or private message on here..
My feelings are IKE is a good guy but should have the balls IN HAND before running a raffle or listing a ball for sale..
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The 2006 Slump is here...
Edited on 4/12/2006 10:55 AM
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dan, i sent u a pm yest i believe it was or the day b4.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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I think this is amusing because what Iketown is doing is conducting a lottery which is illegal both at the state and federal level. As a participant in said lottery, you would also have some exposure to prosecution as well.
Why not run this topic past his state attorney and see what that office thinks about this "raffle."
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I think this is amusing because what Iketown is doing is conducting a lottery which is illegal both at the state and federal level. As a participant in said lottery, you would also have some exposure to prosecution as well.
Why not run this topic past his state attorney and see what that office thinks about this "raffle."
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got revs? (http://"http://www.gotrevs.com")
I am pretty sure the states attorney office has better things to do than try to bust somebody on here doing ball raffles! LOL.. Come on..
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The 2006 Slump is here...
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Ikes a good guy he just has to learn better communication
hes not going to stiff anybody that i know but he has to
learn to communicate a little better with his
customers. hes young and it will come with time
i will do business with him again if he has a ball
i want
doggie
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I must say that I had similar problems with one of Ike's raffles. I understand why it happens, but that doesn't make it right. I won a raffle and after winning added another 100+ dollars to get two balls shipped to me. Yes, I did get a good price, but in all it took about a little over a month to get my balls, and I ended up only getting one of the balls I had initially ordered and having to choose a different second ball. I "won" a Big Deal and paid to add a Zone Classic. After about 2 1/2 weeks, I received the Big Deal and a Red Pin ZC. Needless to say, I was miffed. To make a long story short, I eventually got a V2 Power to replace the ZC and ended up paying Ike a little more just to keep the Red Pin rather than having to ship it back and wait.
I will say that it DID work out in the end, but it wasn't the most pleasant buying experience I've ever had. I would just suggest to Ike that if he runs more raffles in the future that he make it abundantly clear that it may take some time to receive your ball.
Also, I know that Ike is a stand-up guy in the end, it's just difficult since you don't even deal with the guy who can actually supply your ball. I know that when Ike sells his own balls that he has, they get out very quickly!
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Joe F, I did a deal with Ike earlier this year it took a little while
for me to get the ball I chose ( supplier problems) but Ike is true to
his word. My ball finally came in and Ike supplier shipped as promised,
the ball was damaged in transit and Ike more than compensated me for
our troubles. Be patient, Ike may be slow but you will get the goods.
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How about this for a solution? If/when you enter an Iketown300 raffle, that you put the ball you desire with your PM to him. My very uneducated opinion says that maybe a couple will overlap, and that Iketown300 may just have to have those 10-15 balls in stock.
Whichever balls are left over after the raffle closes, then they go on raffle, one-by-one, until his inventory is spent.
I know my idea doesn't cover all angles, but with a little work, it just may fly.
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U r right baccala, i said just b4 that if i ever do another raffle then i will only raffle balls i have in stock so i can get them out same or next day or maybe come up w another solution.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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Just some thoughts on comments:
Getting a good deal for $15 .. there was $150 paid for this ball .. It was stated BALL OF CHOICE .. tell me WHY any SUPPLIER would NOT have a TRACK MACHINE available within a 2 week period. I checked with Pro Shops before I commented on BR about non-delivery!
There was no reference in the raffle about choosing a ball that he could get from his suppliers. He noted NO LANE1 or LEGENDS .. I stood behind his statements. Did he say choose only balls that are ENTRY LEVEL ..NO!
I know IKE has delivered before .. my deal was not one where he had the ball on hand. But .. to collect money for a ball he has yet to order .. then not get the ball is NOT SOME ONE I WOULD DEAL WITH!
Many are saying they deal with IKE and he delivered .. I know he delivered on other deals .. and I know he delivered on prior raffles .. does that make his actions RIGHT in this case. He had 10 people believing they could get the ball of their choice and those people bought TICKETS .. each of them were cheated and lied too. Will he deliver? HOPEFULLY .. DOES THAT JUSTIFY future dealings with him .. only if you are a FOOL! When selling you have to be in a position to DELIVER .. if you can't deliver .. WHO WILL BE STUPID ENOUGH TO DEAL WITH YOU!
IKE could not make a future deal look good to me .. I think I would want delivery before I paid and that would be STUPID on a buyers side!
I had many Email's to Ike before I posted on BR .. all were promises that never MATERIALIZED .. if you like those tactics .. go ahead and chance it .. my money is GOOD ANY PLACE .. I don't need sellers like this!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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I tell you what, as a long time poster here, if you pizzed joe off, you have done some damage, he seems to be the most level headed person i have spoken to on here, I hope this works out for all parties
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I agree 100%.. JOE FALCO is a very respected used on this forum and hope Ike makes good on the deal with him but I have to agree, he has waited way to long IMO.. If this had happened to me, I would not be happy either.. If I had been told about the delay in the first place, then thats a different story but it appears Joe was always told it was shipped and it never was..
I am sure Ike will do the right thing..
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The 2006 Slump is here...
Edited on 4/12/2006 3:38 PM
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OK IKE .. It's your move .. let's hear IN THE OPEN what's going on! I'm sure there are some here that would like to know how (and when) you intend to deliver. No need to email me .. let me hear from you through this posting! The sooner the better! If your SUPPLIER can't get you the ball .. I'll be glad to put you in touch with neighborhood PRO shops that tell me the ball is readily available!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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D PAT .. I got your message and have been considering an action to take. I think one of the options we have to consider is reporting IKE to the PBA. I think we should set a date as to when we move and then draft a letter to advise them of one of their members. I don't think they will look very favorable at a member not treating other bowlers fairly to say the least. Taking money under FALSE PRETENSE is probable something they will NOT STAND FOR!
Let's see what IKE comes up with by Monday .. this will give him a few more days to get it right. You have a lot more at risk then I .. if he had $300+ of mine I'd surely take the next step immediately .. that's a LOT OF CASH to be in a STRANGERS HAND with nothing to show for it. I'm sure the PBA would consider that ROBBERY of some type!
Let me know your thoughts right here so it's in the open!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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I don't see what the big deal is Ike. If you're supplier can't get the ball, go to a different supplier. If you take a loss at this point, then thats your fault for not delivering a ball for over a month. I have seen in this last week a situation where a guy selling a ball was a week late on delivery and credited the guy 25.00 for the wait. At this point, order the balls from buddies pro shop and get it over with.
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Shane Soule
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IKE .. I did some check out for you .. ALLSTARBOWLING-JOE has the ball I'm looking for .. he asking $109 .. add delivery .. even there you can clear $20 .. what's your problem?
http://123bowl.com/forum/thread.asp?t=2658
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Edited on 4/12/2006 10:23 PM
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No one is gettin ripped off. I am getting them the ball(s) that they want or their money back. Just waiting for my guy to do one or the other. I wasn't doing the raffles for the longest time cause of this problem but everyone wanted me to come back and do it so they could get ANY ball that he has except lane 1 and visionary for 15 bucks. Like I told both joe and dpat who are extremely great users that I will notify them ASAP, when i get either to send to them.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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I ahve dealt with Ike before and also won a drawing last year. He did deliver, but he is really slow. He has a good rep here but is also KNOWN for taking forever. As long a Joe has had to wait does not make any sense at all. I would be steaming mad myself. This just seems to be the recurring flaw of Ike and needs to improve or quit dealing. JMO. Hope all works out Joe.
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And secondly i didn't take money under false pretense, i told you what happened, but you choose not to believe me which is your choice. I guarantee you will get your ball or money back or in dpat's case balls.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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Like I told both joe and dpat who are extremely great users that I will notify them ASAP, when i get either to send to them.
But when will that be?
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Dpat, if I remember you saying correctly, Ike is from Lowell, Indiana? if so, the Police Departments Non Emergency Number is 219-696-0411. Theres the PD's number for both you and Joe.
Hope you guys get this settled soon.
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Cody
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Well I am interested in this as well I was in that raffle, that Joe won.
What about the others that paid money, if you give Joe his money back which I dont think is right, he won he deserves to get the ball he picked out?
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In the year 2525
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I said as soon as he emails me back about it I will let you guys know. Should be today I told him to send the balls out or your money back. Joe you will get your ball somehow I guarantee that since you were in the drawing.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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I wonder how many of the raffle winners got their balls quickly. It seems like maybe Ike has one of the worst distributors ever, he's backordered on EVERYTHING.
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He's a supplier but he is a friend of mine. Thats how I get them. He supplies to a lot of people all over the coast and hence runs out of stuff rather quickly. I order my stuff through him and have waited awhile because its no big deal to me to wait for as cheap as they are. I agree though, the wait is ridiculous but I have not lied to anyone on here and nor do i intend to for a measly 400 bucks when i can sell more bowling balls and make more money over time then cheat you guys out of 400 bucks. This will be the last "choose any ball you want raffle" but I will prolly have raffles for equipment I have in my house, which is a considerable amount but only 15 lbs. Joe and DPat I am truely sorry and I promised you I would make good on this deal. But if I just wanted to rip you guys off and not follow through, Sir Bowl is right I would just leave like the other guys have on this board that have ripped people off. He is supposed to email me today/tonite so I will let you guys know about it. I do bowl tonite so if he doesnt email me by the time I leave for bowling, I will let you know tomorrow.
Most drawing winners got their balls right away. There were a handful who didnt. Out of 29 drawings I believe there was about 5 didn't get their ball right away and Joe would make 6.
I am doing the best I can to take care of this for you guys. From now on, I'm only sellin/rafflin stuff i have, unless you want something and I will order it before payment.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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He's a supplier but he is a friend of mine. Thats how I get them. He supplies to a lot of people all over the coast and hence runs out of stuff rather quickly. I order my stuff through him and have waited awhile because its no big deal to me to wait for as cheap as they are. I agree though, the wait is ridiculous but I have not lied to anyone on here and nor do i intend to for a measly 400 bucks when i can sell more bowling balls and make more money over time then cheat you guys out of 400 bucks. This will be the last "choose any ball you want raffle" but I will prolly have raffles for equipment I have in my house, which is a considerable amount but only 15 lbs. Joe and DPat I am truely sorry and I promised you I would make good on this deal. But if I just wanted to rip you guys off and not follow through, Sir Bowl is right I would just leave like the other guys have on this board that have ripped people off. He is supposed to email me today/tonite so I will let you guys know about it. I do bowl tonite so if he doesnt email me by the time I leave for bowling, I will let you know tomorrow.
Most drawing winners got their balls right away. There were a handful who didnt. Out of 29 drawings I believe there was about 5 didn't get their ball right away and Joe would make 6.
I am doing the best I can to take care of this for you guys. From now on, I'm only sellin/rafflin stuff i have, unless you want something and I will order it before payment.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
Ike..
If this guy is your supplier and friend, why don't you have a phone number where you could call him and get an answer right away?? Waiting for someone to email you back is very frustrating for you and for Joe and Dpat..
One other thing.. I just don't understand why you wouldn't just take the money that you made from the raffles and buy the balls elsewhere if your "connection" can't come thru for you in a timely manner..
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The 2006 Slump is here...
Edited on 4/13/2006 11:18 AM
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Ike ..I'm an easy going guy .. I can understand your explanation .. I believe you are sincere .. I don't believe you should be a SELLER!
If you have a shop and treat just ONE CUSTOMER like this .. your reputation is RUINED (unless you are the only kid on the block .. then you can survive). If you want to be in business .. CUSTOMER SERVICE is what sets you apart from others!
I don't care if this SUPPLIER sleeps with you .. it's no business of mine. You make a deal/collect the money and HAVE TO DELIVER! When you have OTHER PEOPLES MONEY you are obligated to PERFORM your SERVICE .. not at your convenience ..but .. in a reasonable time. MORE THEN TWO WEEKS to have a deal complete (or at least in the mail).. is NOT SMART and certainly not efficient. ANYONE who enters into a deal with prior knowledge of these expectations is a FOOL!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Ike..
If this guy is your supplier and friend, why don't you have a phone number where you could call him and get an answer right away?? Waiting for someone to email you back is very frustrating for you and for Joe and Dpat..
Thats exactly what I would like to know as well ? Why not just call the guy up and see what he has in stock ?
...and if its not not in stock, then take there money and buy the gear they wanted somewhere else. Problem solved & everybodys happy
Sure you might lose a few bucks buying it somewhere else, but these guys have waited way to long for there stuff..
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Not a friend as in great friend but as an acquaintance that i know that I can get stuff from pretty cheap. I already have said I already sent the money to the guy the money to pay for your guys' equipment.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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Actually, I just checked my email and got a response from him. Don't know if you guys care or not and might think this is another excuse but when he got back from vacation he had a major problem that might cause him to go out of business due to one of his employees. Not mentioning anything to much in detail.
But he did say they were going out today and sending tracking #'s tonight. I will get them to you ASAP before i leave for league or in the morning.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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I can't get too excited by IKE's most recent comment. The comment "it's in the mail" seems too much like comments made to Collectors trying to get payments from customers .. a GREAT DELAY TOOL!
I patiently wait for his advice defining the TRACKING NUMBER! Only then when I see a listing from the DELIVERY SERVICE will I have confidence that the ball is on it's way!
I stand firm on all the things I've commented on till now. I would search HIGH and FAR before I send anything of mine (equipment or MONEY) to Ike related to bowling transactions.
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Let's hope IT'S IN THE MORNING because NOTHING came through tonight (local time 12:01 AM).
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
Edited on 4/13/2006 11:00 PM
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well 12:31am something came through.
DAN PATTY - 234933410012576
JOE FALCO - 234933410012583
via fedex boys. sorry for the delay but all the reasons i told you were true. granted shouldn't have taken this long but again sorry but it did.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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he put alot of crap in it along with a peice of paper with a Circle on it that says THE ONE on it. there you go Dpat you got your ball!
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Cody
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No,its balloons painted with ball logos,thats why its only 2lbs.LOL
Edited on 4/14/2006 0:45 AM
3 easter eggs painted Green/Purple EBONITE THE ONE
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Cody
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I'm not familiar with FEDEX .. does the shipper have to define the contents of a package when initiating the transaction? I was looking for something like that on the tracking but don't find it .. anyone have info on this?
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Ike, Have been following this all along.
Just checked Fed Ex Tracking, both for Joe & DPat each one says 2 lbs., 1 package DPat has 3 balls coming and Joe 1. Whats up?
http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?ascend_header=1&clienttype=dotcom&cntry_code=us&language=english&tracknumbers=234933410012583%0D%0A234933410012576
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if the guy put 2 pounds down for each package, he is cheating fed ex big time.. when you have an account you can put down any weight you want to.. I was told they do periodic checks on the actual weight but thats it..
as far as declaring whats in the packeage, if you have an account, you don't have to.. if you ship it at say a Kinkos, yes you do have to state what is in the package..
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The 2006 Slump is here...
Edited on 4/14/2006 8:59 AM
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Thanks for the info .. I'm totally bewildered .. have I been leading a SHELTERED life .. I can't believe that people do things like this! When I deal with people I give HONESTY and expect that in return .. I hope this is an isolated case and it hasn't become the NORM! I AM TOTALLY BEWILDERED!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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If he has a "IN" with a person at FedEx then yes, they will list it at 2lbs and pay much, much less on the actual shipping cost. If not, then I hope it's a mistake because FedEx weighs everything when they accept the package.
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I've received several shipments that only said 2 lbs. Looks like their default setting on weight. Account customers get a discount on shipping. Wouldn't worry too much about what the weight says.
I was a little concerned the first couple of times myself.
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Charter Member FOS
Have Balls - Will Travel
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Not sure why it says that. He prints all his own labels and has an account. I don't know exactly how he ships but on the stuff I receive (case at a time) it has said weights other than the right weight.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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Not sure why it says that. He prints all his own labels and has an account. I don't know exactly how he ships but on the stuff I receive (case at a time) it has said weights other than the right weight.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
It says it was shipped out of Lowell, Indiana (and your "connection" is on the east cost)... so then don't you have to go ship it out? I doubt HE would pay shipping to your house, then to us. Why doesn't he just ship it straight to us?
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Site Admin @ www.BowlingKingdom.com
It does not say shipped from Lowell, IN.. It says the information was transmitted to fed ex from an account in Lowell, IN. Whoever put in the weight of 2 pounds was in Lowell, IN. This is very strange.. Oh well..
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The 2006 Slump is here...
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I've not said anything yet, but I bought a used ball from Ike a few weeks back. I sent the money, but didn't hear anything back from him.
I sent him messages, but didn't get responses very quickly. He said he would get the ball out to me, but didn't.
Finally, I saw where others who had bought from him were posting that they had already gotten their balls, so I asked him " If you have time to ship others, and you have time to post in these forums, why don't you have time to ship me my ball?"
He finally told me that he was in one location and that the balls were in another, but that he would make sure the ball got sent out. The next day, he sent me a tracking number.
I tracked it, but it never left the depot. After a week, I contacted him and told him to please check it out. That night, he responded that there was a mixup in the labeling address and that it had been fixed. I tracked it and it was on its way.
I recieved it 3 days later ( after about 2 weeks of waiting ), and it was just a promised. A pristine ebonite overtime that looked as though it might never have been thrown.
I was very happy with the ball, and Ike seemed as though he was honest, just a bit busy and a bit scatter-brained at times, but he had/has a lot going on, or so he says.
Like I said, the ball was great, just like he promised, but his attention to detail and his customer service had a lot of room for improvement. I would probably buy from him again, but I would insist on better service next time. That would be a condition of purchase.
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Albert Einstein
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Yea, I am trying on working on communications better but havent had much time at all. Thats why i havent been on the site like i used to. But i am working harder on that. Actually, he is in Connecticut like it says and he prints all the labels but puts that they are shipped from me because that is who the buyers send their money to. That way you know what the package is when you see that it is from me, the person you bought the ball from. As you note it picks up in Connecticut so he doesn't ship to me then i ship it to you, that would be a waste of time and money. He ships it directly to you the buyer.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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IF my ball is delivered on Monday April 17 (as per FED EX schedule) it will be 42 days from NOTIFICATION OF BALL CHOICE to DELIVERY .. If any of you wish to deal with IKE and be put in this position .. you deserve the aggravation! Makes me SORRY I won the raffle (incidentally it's only the second time I've ever won anything)!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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IF my ball is delivered on Monday April 17 (as per FED EX schedule) it will be 42 days from NOTIFICATION OF BALL CHOICE to DELIVERY .. If any of you wish to deal with IKE and be put in this position .. you deserve the aggravation! Makes me SORRY I won the raffle (incidentally it's only the second time I've ever won anything)!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
Joe,
fed ex home delivery does not deliver Mondays. They work Tuesday thru Saturdays.. You should see the ball Tuesday if he sent it to your residence.
keep us posted..
JK
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The 2006 Slump is here...
Edited on 4/14/2006 10:51 PM
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it WILL be delivered then. Yes, again sorry for the delay but if I ever get a ball for 15 bucks I will wait that long, even more. I wait that long or longer for my stuff now from him and I pay more.
ps no not buddies
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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He won a ball for 15 dollars. How do you not see that? When you play the lottery and buy a 5 dollar ticket you win the pot however much it is, you don't win the lottery ticket for 5 bucks because its a chance to win the lottery. Joe wouldnt have gotten refunded if you read the previous posts it says he was GUARANTEED to get his ball.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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Since Joe will be getting his package first, let us know whats in it PLEASE joe. thanks
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Cody
MEMBER #1 of the screw Ike club.
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Fedex has the package in NC as of this morning .. looks like THEY are on schedule. Delivery should be made Monday .. best thing of this whole transaction was FEDEX!
ON EDIT: Thanks JK .. I'll look for it on TUESDAY!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
Edited on 4/15/2006 10:40 AM
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He won a ball for 15 dollars. How do you not see that?
We see that he bought a chance to win a ball for $15...
9 other people bought a chance to win as well for $15...
Before you completed the drawing YOU HAD $150 in YOUR hand.
Where is this $15 dollar ball you keep talking about ? Sure looks like a $150 to me !?
Why would you assume that just because it only cost him $15 to enter the drawing, but you got $150 total for the ball, that he should be ok with waiting ????
Wow man...Just wow...
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Nothing but Dyno-Thane
Live by the hook...Die by the hook
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
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No, never said be okay with waiting. I said in a number of previous posts that the wait is way too long.
Also, I said joe WOULD NOT have gotten refunded, I said he was guaranteed his ball. So i did answer the question.
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pbafire was asking if you wouldve refunded all of the other participants that were part of that particular drawing, not just joe falco.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
Edited on 4/15/2006 11:25 AM
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I haven't read the 4 pages. I've had the same issue with Ike earlier this bowling season. Just be forewarned it will take some time. If you can wait fine if you don't want to wait don't deal with Ike.
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No, never said be okay with waiting. I said in a number of previous posts that the wait is way too long.
Actually you said this:
"Yes, again sorry for the delay but if I ever get a ball for 15 bucks I will wait that long, even more."
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Nothing but Dyno-Thane
Live by the hook...Die by the hook
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
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No, never said be okay with waiting. I said in a number of previous posts that the wait is way too long.
Actually you said this:
"Yes, again sorry for the delay but if I ever get a ball for 15 bucks I will wait that long, even more."
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Nothing but Dyno-Thane
Live by the hook...Die by the hook
Robo-Arm bowlers SUCK...
I believe when he stated that the wait was too long he was refering to the time it takes to get the ball from his "distributor"
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"A word to the wise ain't necessary -- it's the stupid ones that need the advice." Bill Cosby
Edited on 4/15/2006 1:26 PM
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Wow Ike, You use to have a pretty good rep before starting these drawings last year. Since then you have had alot of problems with your guy and playing a waiting game. It has hurt your rep no doubt. However, what hurts your rep more (IMO) is the way you seem to look at it. Thinking hey...this guy only paid $15 bucks for a $130 buck ball. He should'nt have a problem with the wait. Well the way I see it, waiting over a month is ridiculous no matter what. You should have bought the ball from another supplier if your guy can't get it in a timely manner. Joe may only have $15 invested in the ball, but YOU STILL RECEIVED $150 FOR THE BALL!!!!! Don't try to belittle the situation and claim he got the ball for $15. This has caused me to lose respect for you as a seller. Thats not the way you should look at it and handle your business.
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I'm not trying to belittle the situation at all. It is ridiculous you had to wait and that is why I said I was sorry a lot of times. I tried to do what I could to get in touch with him but he was on vacation and then had to take care of some business problems. I just said I would wait that long and I do now. I never said Joe should have had to wait that long. And actually I only do get about 15 or 20 bucks for the ball because DPat took the money for me cause he still uses paypal I let him keep some for himself for doing that, then I had to pay for the bowling ball for Joe.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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Nothing against you Ike......but I think you are avoiding the full refund to all the people within this raffle question. But this doesn't matter now since DPat and JF will be getting their stuff next week.
Good luck guys....keep your fingers crossed.
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Thanks Ed .. there is something definitely in FED EX .. it would be foolish of IKE to send something other then the ball! I'm sorry IKE made us go through all these problems .. however I think if we DIDN'T PROCEED IN THIS MANNER we'd still be looking for a TRACKING NUMBER! I don't think you did the right thing IKE and I have a feeling it was a BAD DECISION!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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The customer is always right. In this situation, there is no reason for the delay. If your supplier could not get the ball, USE A DIFFERENT SUPPLIER. Since this whole situation was all screwed up from the second that raffle ended, here is my suggestion.
Since you were the seller, and you clearly had a horrible selling experience here, maybe you should refund the 15.00 to everyone in the raffle, and get the ball to the winner at YOUR COST.... You screwed up... whether it is 15.00 from one guy or 10 guys.... You didn't come through in a timely manner. Bottom Line.
You should eat the cost of this sale, and made everyone happy that was involved and treated poorly!
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15 minutes ago .. Fed ex dropped the package off at my door. I opened the delivery and found the bowling ball as promised by IKETOWN300. The ball was EXACTLY to my request and I am totally satisfied with the ball.
Deep down inside I feel sorry that this all happened .. however I feel the action was justified. It appears that Ike is a GOOD GUY but just doesn't put enough effort to SATISFY! Once he started on the way to DELIVER every thing worked well!
I want to THANK all those that supported me in getting this delivery made. I learned quite a bit from this. There were some BR members that I was disappointed in and still others that I am overjoyed with. For those that didn't feel like getting INVOLVED .. I UNDERSTAND. For those members that supported me .. I AM DEEPLY GRATEFUL! I thank all of you from the bottom of my heart! Thanks.
D PAT .. I have no doubt you will be getting your delivery as defined by Fed Ex. Please advise when it happens and then we can decide what to do about this whole posting! I need your input!
Thanks again!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Glad to hear you like it Joe. Let me know how it works out for you. Again sorry for the delay.
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Ike Brownfield
PBA 05-06
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IF my ball is delivered on Monday April 17 (as per FED EX schedule) it will be 42 days from NOTIFICATION OF BALL CHOICE to DELIVERY .. If any of you wish to deal with IKE and be put in this position .. you deserve the aggravation! Makes me SORRY I won the raffle (incidentally it's only the second time I've ever won anything)!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
You said later in the posting .. I went from the end forward and the above is my statement. You say three weeks which I believe would be 21 days I said 42 days that would be about 6 weeks. Don't know if that changes your mind.
Yes suppliers don't carry every ball for every spec .. but I do believe they can acquire them before the elapsed period of this deal. I take no exception to you voicing your opinion .. I welcome it. I will agree with you THREE WEEKS IS AN ACCEPTABLE TIME PERIOD FOR DELIVERY. Before I made my comment .. I believe I waited longer then that. Thanks for your comment .. I don't mind if you believe I was wrong! I just hope you don't have to wait 42 days for a ball delivery in your orders.
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Thanks .. The ball was exactly what I requested!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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DPat let us know how every thing went.
http://www.fedex.com/Tracking?ascend_header=1&clienttype=dotcom&cntry_code=us&language=english&tracknumbers=234933410012583%0D%0A234933410012576
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http://www.fedex.com/Tracking/Detail?sum=y&ascend_header=1&clienttype=dotcom&snbr=1&spnlk=spnl0&cntry_code=us&tracknumber_list=234933410012583%2C234933410012576&language=english&trackNum=234933410012576
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Edited on 4/20/2006 7:02 PM
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Dan, so what's the dealy yo?
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Is that your answer to everything in life?
Read my profile and you'll see why I can honestly say this.
People that lack common sense get on my nerves.
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Dan .. according to FED EX .. your package was delivered about 4:40 last night. Please give an update on your findings. We have to decide an action on this posting .. I am satisfied .. you had much more then I at risk .. please advise. Thanks!
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Dan .. I don't know what your arrangements with IKE are .. have you been in touch with him? Was that a USED ball? I remember you changed your mind on one ball and wasn't sure it was to be shipped .. so that's not a problem .. just something you have to straighten out with him. There were 4 balls all total .. I don't know if they were USED or NEW .. What are your intentions? Where is this all going? I know it's between you and Ike .. but we have a lot of people involved now .. what are you planning?
Ike if you are available .. what are your thoughts are Dan's findings?
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Hit them light and watch them fight
J O E - F A L C O
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Are you planning on selling the Scorchin' or keeping it for yourself?
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Yes, there is enough oil and no, the ball is not rolling-out.
Is that your answer to everything in life?
Read my profile and you'll see why I can honestly say this.
People that lack common sense get on my nerves.