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General Category => Buyer-Seller Feedback => Topic started by: hawkeye4life on November 19, 2006, 12:47:14 AM
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hello guys im just letting everyone on know as you prolly have already seen that i am going to pay everyone back i have started paying everyone back and will continue till i have everyone paid back i got preapproved for a loan through iowa student loan corparation. since im still taking a couple classes that my work pays for, i was able to get this loan, i did take my last paycheck and payed pack a few people and i plan to pay back as many more as i can even before this money comes, but i just want to let everyone know that i am not running, and this is not to try to make me be out the victim here or anything i messed up if they would let me use the f word i would say i fed up. and that i can never say im sorry enough for, but if you would ask yourself this how many people on this site have you seen that did f up like i did start to pay people back and get a loan so he/she could pay everyone back? still i know that doesnt make what happend any better but i just want everyone to know that i was not scamming them with the paypal thing....think about it for a second when you guys did the dispute i made it a claim so it didnt take the full 30 to 40 days, i made it so it took 10 because i personally called paypal and they told me that they would refund everyones money and just have my account at a negative then i could have just paid them back, i mean if i wanted to scam you guys or by myself more time i would have let the whole paypal dispute run its course and then we wouldnt even be having this conversation right now it would still be a dispute not even a claim, i just wanted to let everyone know that i am serious about paying everyone back as soon as i get this loan, and like ive said before i never ment for any of this to happen. please dont hijack this or anything because i have noticed a lot of people with nothing to do with this situation hijacking all the threads. again im very sorry about everything. but i will make this right.
adam newman
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Adam, Glad to see you are trying to do the right thing.
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Yes, i'm glad you're doing the right thing as well. You seemed like a nice guy when i talked to you.
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I don't get it! YOu don't have to take a loan...pay them back with THEIR money that you have.
Isn't that how it works?
REgards,
Luckylefty
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reighmey unless you changed your user name i dont have one message from you and i have kept all of them. and i messaged you about what you bought and how you paid man, because i have no record of me and you doing a deal. please reply back i want to make this right with you if you did buy something
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and this is not a federal student loan its a private loan that i can use for whatever i see fit.
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I don't get it! YOu don't have to take a loan...pay them back with THEIR money that you have.
Isn't that how it works?
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Can't do that if he already spent it. I saw somewhere on here where he got some new balls from ASB???
you guys got "Hosed". I hope you all get your cash back, or prosecute this little turd!
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Rev-O
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I'm confident that we will get our money back from my recent conversations with Adam.
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Shane Soule
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I'm confident that we will get our money back from my recent conversations with Adam.
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Shane Soule
Agreed. He admits that he screwed up. Also, I don't know why Adam's not answering the questions that were asked previously, but he has answered those questions in personal phone conversations with me, so here's what he said:
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What did you use the money for?
He blew it, plain and simple. He didn't think he would have to save it in his PayPal account and you'll see why in the last question...
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How much money total are we talking about?
Somewhere in the neighborhood of $2,000
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Did you ever have the equipment in stock?
Not really. Here's the deal: Adam had a distributor that was clearing out their entire inventory at "way too good to be true" prices, so he figured he could make a return on them by posting balls for sale here on the BR forum and having those items ship straight from that distributor to our doors. Of course, Adam was on the road, so this should have worked out well for him. So, he accepted payments in his paypal account and would place the order through his distributor. Problem is that the prices WERE too good to be true as his distributor went "belly-up". In the meantime, Adam had spent our money that was in his PayPal account and was unable to refund...
Adam made 2 very poor decisions in this process:
#1: He didn't hold on to the money in his PayPal account. He ASSUMED everything was worked out. Bad choice.
#2: For some reason, he was never HONEST about what happened, and made himself look like a crook in the process, thus destroying his reputation. I don't know why he didn't just tell us all what happened... Who knows, this story he fed me could all just be bullsh*t anyway, but it sounds feasible.
Either way, he now has DECISION #3 in front of him. I have a feeling that the third time is a charm and Adam will make the right choice.
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Everyone with an attitude like reighmey's need to give it a rest. In some of the other posts, how many people said they were going to "pay him a visit"? No one on this site has ever followed through with that type of ploy and it would probably lead to worse things if they did. Of course you have a right to be upset. It's obvious he doesn't want to talk about what he did with the money. If you all get refunds, thank your lucky stars and be happy you did. I'm hoping hawkeye4life actually makes good on his promise and isn't just giving lip service.
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Telling it like it is.
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what brokylnslop said was correct that is how it happend. its not a crock. the reason i didnt tell people on here is because on this site it seams that whatever you say or do its not right and like ive said many times i completely messed up, but i am going to make up for it, i am going to pay everyone back and with interest if they want it. so yes what brokyln said is what happend, everyone i messed up like ive said time and time again and im sorry and im going to pay everyone back. adam
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Hey Adam, I want compounded interest on that money you owe me!!!! Let's see, $0 compounded daily at 50%......you figure it up!!!!
Seriously, I have known Adam for a long time and he did exactly as he said. He relied on a too good to be true deal that fell through and counted his chickens before the eggs hatched. I know Adam and I am confident he is paying everyone back as he says. That is why he is still here and many people forget how long he has been on this site. He's not a fly by night new user.
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It's not an attitude. It is a fact. I have not threatened anyone with anything but facts. He has commited fraud. Plain and simple. It was a scam and there should be no excuses. Besides restitution he should be prosecuted and held responsible for his actions. Paying everyone back is not taking total responsibility. Why do you call it an attitude. I am in law enforcement and have charged many people with fraud. This fraud happens to be over the internet and could possilby be considered a federal crime.
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Reighmey,
Please do as you think you can or must. As a fellow law enforcement official, I can assure you that this particular case would never see a court simply because you have to show intent to defraud or harm another and Adam can show where his source went "belly-up" on him. Technically, it would see a civil court room before it would ever see a criminal proceeding. If he had intent to defraud which is the basis here, he would not be here posting and paying people back. Now, I have have worked hand in hand with fedral officials for years and I can assure you, your interpretation of a federal crime here is incorrect. Now, does this mean Adam is getting away with anything? No. But there is no way you can show he intended to defraud anyone.
Charles
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Glad that you're trying to do the right thing.
But, remember, periods are your friend. Use them.
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and by the time you could get this to court im going to have everyone paid back. again im not saying me paying everyone back should mean that you guys should look at me the way you used to i dont expect that. i just want everyone to get there money back and we all go on with our lives.
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But, remember, periods are your friend. Use them.
Just don't turn your back on a semi-colon; those guys'd just as soon slit your throat as look at ya.
Ever hear of the rule that you only get three exclamation points for your whole life?
SH
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and by the time you could get this to court im going to have everyone paid back. again im not saying me paying everyone back should mean that you guys should look at me the way you used to i dont expect that. i just want everyone to get there money back and we all go on with our lives.
Sounds great, Adam... I'm still waiting on that Tracking Number for the Money Order that you promised to send out to me today. Get it to me ASAP please.
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EBONITE: BOWL TO WIN
Mission Statement: We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much for so long with so little that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. Thank you.
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Can't do that if he already spent it. I saw somewhere on here where he got some new balls from ASB???
you guys got "Hosed". I hope you all get your cash back, or prosecute this little turd!
Once again the poop drippings just keep falling from Rev-blows mouth.
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Tracy
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Recieved my refund today via a PayPal payment from another account that Adam has access to.
Although this was a huge pain in the a*s*s, at least the guy is following through with making things right.
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EBONITE: BOWL TO WIN
Mission Statement: We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much for so long with so little that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. Thank you.
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I have done a good deal with him, but i think it was an interest free loan knowing he had a student loan coming in sometime already. Nothing like committing crime and just says oops sorry i did not mean to screw you all over, give me a break you pronged this people created a false distributor story and now it all is good???
Pm me the distributor name and i will check the business license department for that city?? I think you knew exactly what you were doing and now have to make up stuff too CYA per say. I say your BS and these guys are being nice just too get there money you committed a crime and Ballreviews.com and BBE should ban you for life plain and simple!!!
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see what happens is that i had like credit with this guy that i was buying from. so i took the money out of my paypal account stupidly and i used it but i thought that i would just be getting billed like i normaly do. you can ask anyone i did have access i sold dooms and pains to people on this site for the 75 dollars. was i foolish and made a mistake yes. i have never said i wasnt. infact i sold one to lane1convert is one i can remember off the top of my head.
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Adam, please ignore these people whom you had no dealings with and keep it in private messages the conversations and only reveal information when eaxh issue is resolved. All they are trying to do is make threats. If these guys knew anything, then they would know I would not say anything if I didn't know who your distributor was. If it did, which it wouldn't, make it to a district attorney's office, then I think the information and evidence alone, along with my testimony would dismiss any case. A good investigator would look at all of the evidence and this guy is popping off without all of the information, which obviously I would have or wouldn't get involved. Do not feed the trolls anymore. Handle your business and move on. Some of us with all of the information will give you a second chance. Let them continue and just ignore them.
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i will do that charles thank you.
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i would just like to say adam i had 3 dealings with you with no problems.i would not hesitate to deal with you again.
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see what happens is that i had like credit with this guy that i was buying from. so i took the money out of my paypal account stupidly and i used it but i thought that i would just be getting billed like i normaly do. you can ask anyone i did have access i sold dooms and pains to people on this site for the 75 dollars. was i foolish and made a mistake yes. i have never said i wasnt. infact i sold one to lane1convert is one i can remember off the top of my head.
Yup. The ball is first quality, 2-3" pin, still sitting NIB in my room, just begging to be drilled. I have done two transactions with Adam, and even though they may have taken a little longer than normal, everything worked out fine, and I personally would probably do business with him again.
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Edited on 11/21/2006 8:40 AM
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I'll never do business with Adam again.
Although I'm glad he's cleaning up his mess, he has proven to be unreliable as a seller... Not to mention that he was lying about this whole thing until we had our feet on his throat. Once I threatened him with the personal information I had about him, he sure was quick to take action! Anyway, that's the last I will say about it.
I reccomend that anyone who has never done business with Adam to NEVER attempt it. That's the least he deserves for this scam.
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EBONITE: BOWL TO WIN
Mission Statement: We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much for so long with so little that we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. Thank you.
Edited on 11/21/2006 5:41 AM
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I know that I didnt do biz with adam during this time of turmoil, but to all of those who did, at least you are getting paid back. If Adam was the guy you all are making him out to be, he would have taken the money and run! Think twice before you speak. . .I know where all of you coming from. I got ripped off $700+ dollars on ebay, so i know exactly why you would sa stuff like you are. . .
And I too, would still do business with you adam, any day.
Thanks,
Chrispy
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