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Reviews => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
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When it comes to lane conditions, you need to be ready for anything. That's why you need the new Columbia 300® Icon²™, featuring our new Muscle™ coverstock. The Icon² maintains the versatility of the original Icon while producing a later and stronger move on the backend.
If you haven't already added a little Muscle to your game, well here's your chance. Icon², the perfect complement to the Icon (the perfect ball).
Specifications are as follows:
Coverstock: Muscle
Color: Red/Purple/Blue with White Engraving
Hardness: 75-78
Factory Finish: Compound
RG: 2.530
Total Hook: 52
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Drilled ball to carry to a tournament last week but was interruped before I could put in the finger inserts. When I returned to complete the job the web between the fingers had cracked. Talked to another driller at the tournament and he has had three Icon2's to crack in the same manner.
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Wow - Mine cracked in the Pro Shop also. And this guy has drilled at least 20 balls for me this year without any other problems. Hey Columbia - whazzup with this?
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First, I absolutely love this ball. It goes extremely long and then turns hard at the backend. Again, gotta have some oil in the heads for the ball to skid to be really effective.
Secondly, my friend had an Icon(original), drilled up last Saturday. The driller put the finger grips in and let my friend adjust them. The driller took the grips out and guess what... there was a crack in the bridge. It wasn't there when my friend was adjusting the grips. But when he took the grips out, before glueing them in... the ball cracked. How's that?
By the way, the bridge was at least 1/4" wide. Is there any recourse? The pro shop driller ended up drilling a small hole at the bottom of the finger holes to prevent the crack from going any further into the core... I guess that's a good cure considering that once you place inserts in the ball, it voids the warranty.
Just wanted to give you guys the drill hole idea in case your pro shop driller didn't do that.
Aloha, Dale
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The ICON-2 will compliment your ICON!
Those of you who have the ICON in your bags should go out and get the ICON-2!
This ball adds more over-all hook as compared to the first ICON.
The MUSCLE coverstock is the same on both balls, but the weight block in this new ball comes to us from the old "Columbia Sport" ball.
We have found this to be a great combination for a more powerful ball!
You still need a good amount of lane oil to make this ball work well! and if you need one of those Heavy Oil balls for tournament conditions or Sports Leagues, this ball will work very well!
We are recommending of all of you who own and LIKE the first ICON, to go out and get this one too! You will find this ball will give you more range on more oil!
BowlPro
www.discount-proshop.com
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i bought one from a guy on my team for a 100 bucks, and it only had seven games on it. he said he wasn't impressed with the way it hit. i love the ball. it works great for me.
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The icon2 is a great ball. I bought both the icon2 and the Icon because I wanted a flip and arc combo. There are times when you need just a little more angle and I thought that the two ball would complement each other. Somehow I was thinking that the icon2 was the weaker of the two balls so I left the Icon at box and used Black Magic on the icon2. I saw the Icon die at the hole and I was thinking that I just wasted money. I took out the icon2 and bam 6 in a row. I then went home and checked the spec on each ball. I had the positions in my arsenal reversed. The icon2 is more ball than the Icon (barely) but just enough to make a difference. The icon2 allows for that little snap at the end to carry the corner pin when there is a trace of carrydown. The icon2 is more aggressive on the backend than the Icon because it has a lower particle load than the Icon. The reactive cover shows through so the backend is bigger. The ball goes about a foot longer than the Icon but has about 3 boards more and is more angular. I am left handed and have the icon2 drilled 4 1/2 Stacked. My PAP is 5 1/8 with 1/8 down. My speed is 16 - 17 mph and have above average revs. I am considered a tweener but can stroke or crank if necessary. I carry a 200+ average in 9 leagues this year.
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I was looking for a ball to replace my now dead Rock On. I was at the ProAm when the PBA was in Vernon Hills, IL a few weeks back and purchased an Icon2 as recommended by former pro (and current house owner) Bill Spigner. I did not get the opportunity to use it at the ProAm, but I had league later that night. I practiced 1 game before league started, and felt the ball did not finish the way I wanted it to, so we sanded the cover down to 1000. I shot 650 with it (195 ave) and have since shot 2 700s and a couple 675+ series with it. The only downside I found was that the ball does no seem to fight through a lot of carrydown. Overall, I give it a 9 out of 10.
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Drilled my icon2 4 1/2 X 4 and left it in box condition to compliment my icon which is drilled 3 3/4 x 5 3/4 dulled to 600.
I have only used the icon2 for 12 games but seems to a winner. Less hook due to weaker drilling and less surface than icon but a lot different look for me on the lanes. That is a real plus having two really different looks. The ball doent have the massive backend i expected but that too also is a plus. Ball is very controllable and carries good.
Very happy with columbia product as of late - from both of my spirits to both my icons to my practice pulse, all work great.
Greatness
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I had a horrible story with my Icon2. It was drilled originally with
the pin under my middle finger, (RHer) with the CG in the middle of the grip. I was so dissapointed it wouldn't hook, I throw around 16.5mph. So to the advice of a pro at my lanes I plugged it & redrilled it took out some side wieght. Wow it hits so hard. It now hooks more than my Game ball. We put the pin 1/2" out of my ring finger and the CG just a little further out than that, hence the side wieght taken out. I have 6 games on the ball and averaged out to a 220. I average a 166. I've since thrown my first 700 series (710) mind you my average is only a 166. and a 613 series. The thing this ball has done for me is restore confidence in my game. I love it and will definitly buy another one just to put it away for later
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It's really a good particle ball and as long as your only willing to get 30 games out of it should be good. Not being a particle person this is only my opinion so take it for what's it worth.
Drill
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Pin is 1\2 an inch rigth of the ring finger, cg kicked out about 1 and 1/2 inches from the palm with a weigth hole 1/2 an inch down from from my pap. I really love this ball. I got it the first week it came out and with proper cleaning it has not lost any reaction at all even after more than 50 games. The ball does what is suppose to. Goes long and snap hard in the backend. This ball is not meant to hook in oil but if you play the right line you can use it in any condition. The muscle cover seems to hold up really well, but again that is with proper maintenance. Good ball overall, will get another one if this one ever wears out.
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Hello im 15 years old and i recently been bowling seriously this year. A friend of my dads happens to be a pro bowler (rikki ward) and he hooked me up with my first fingertip ball (the beast) i liked it but i wanted more hook so i ended up buying the icon 2 when it came out. Now when i first got the ball i loved it. The ball was working perfect. You would put it anywhere on the right side of the head pin and BAM it was a strike. It had alot of backend which i liked. 30 or 40 games come along and i decided to get it reserfaced because it was losing its energy. I dont know anything about researfacing it so i put trust into the pro shop guy. So he researfaced it and i went out on the lanes and it was rolling straighter then the beast.. and my friend noticed it too (he has the original icon) So i dont know if this ball is a short term ball.. or when i got it researfaced it messed it up but my ball is dull now... it was hook on extreamly dry lanes but when theres oil on the lanes the ball carrys like crasy... i dont know if anyone is having the same trouble but it really stinks.. can anyone tell me what condition they put on there icon 2 so that i can tlel the pro shop guy to fix it.. maybe that will help... thanks
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I'm 15 years old I was recently throwing the Trauma ER and I went out and bought a new ball so I got the icon2 I love that ball. I am a righter I throw that ball in between the 5 and 10 board and it snaps back. I love it. I have no problems with it. I let my friend throw and he loved and now he got one. I think this is one of the best balls on the market.
I just recently bowled for my school I had the 1st nine and it was crushing the pocket and i was throwing it out 1 and 5 board because it was wood lanes then I bowled on synthetic lanes and playing the 5 and 10 board I had the last 10 in a row I ended up shooting 718. I recommend this ball to people who have a range to throw the ball or who likes the hook.
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All i got to say is...Pocket What? Well what i mean is, this thing destroys the pins. Pin is up and between middle finger and ring, and the cg is kicked out to the right of my ring finger. I throw the ball at a decent speed about 16-17 and have good hand in the ball, I usually play around third arrow if now a little left of it. As some of you know if you have read other posts from me which i think is one post i have been throwing the FlipSide Wicked. I love that ball to death but lately i have had to polish it with 1500 finesse every week or two. So it starts to die if i dont polish it and clean it up. But a guy that I know, had this Icon2 drilled out and he didnt like it all that much, it was too much of a condition ball for him. Actually the first time i threw this ball it hooked out of my hand, and i didnt like it. But today he put it up for sale and i took it off the rack, and threw it a few times. It was left box finish and i threw it around 3 arrow, trying the same shot with my wicked, and it slid and slid and slid, and then boom. I started to break evenly and then really reved up and made a left turn. I tried different lines with it, like straight up second and 5th arrow, and every time i crushed the pocket. Condition ball? I think not. Great ball, slides a lot for the duller coverstock. Good think i got this ball High School State Finals is tomorrow and Saturday. Good ole Royal Scot Lanes, good thing they have the same shot as my home house...Lowell Lanes. I review this ball later on after i put a lot of games on it.
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I bought this ball a couple of days ago. I bowled 3 games on it. It didn't react the way I thought it would. I was told that it would have a lot of backend, and from what I see is a lot of sliding and very little hook. I'm kind of wandering if I should have purchased the Icon300 instead.
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drilled with cg out 1/2 in right, pin above 1in. and to right of ring finger
got this thinking it would react like my icon, only a little more movment....well, i was wrong. it does have great length, its just too sharp of a turn to the pocket then what i wanted. well, after sanding it down i could use it playing 5 and 6 arrow lofting the gutter...but having to do that all the time gets tireing...so i pluged it all up to try somthing new
(the pin is 4 in. above the cg.)
now the pin's under and between my fingers, with the cg lined directly right of it 4 in out. with a big weight hole through the cg.
lets just say i eliminated a lot of the hook. i've polished this and the only thing its coming out on now is dry sport shots. it has very little movement now, but when you get on drier shots, and play up the rail, its a killer, so i'm gonna keep it around in case i run into problems with dry conditions
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damn that little voice speaking to you
got you convinced someone's using voodoo...on you
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I see others have had the same problem with this ball that I did. The ball works flawlessly for 30 games or so, then just dies. I absoluetly loved my Icon2 when I first got it. Backend hooked like crazy, predictable though. Then, kapoot. Bye bye backend. Had the ball sanded a wee bit, then polished up. That helped a little, but no where near what I had out of the box at first. I ended up switching to the Icon 300. Now there's a strong ball, but that's another review.
good luck,
breezyjr
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Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. -Ben Franklin
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This ball is one of the worst balls i have ever thrown.Its ok for about 20 games then it is dead after those 20 games u might as well just use it for a 7 or 10 pin ball.This ball is such a disgrace to the original icon.
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everybody is right the backend dies after like 30 games. I use now just as a medium oil ball right up the 3rd arrow from the middle and it slow comes back
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Oil pattern: doesn't matter
Ball: 15# Pin 3.5"
Drilling: 5" X 5", balance hole at PAP
Check my profile for player stats.
Let's start out to stay I got this ball while I needed a ball for dry conditions. I must say that this ball with it's drÃlling is just right for me and the conditions. After the lanes have broken down and my Freak and money don't get the job done this baby comes out of the bag.
I play this ball from about 18 throwing 5-7 and this ball goes down the lanes fairly far because of it's drilling and then takes off. When it gets any near to what us bowlers call a pocket shot, they're dead, all ten of them.
I never had ball that throws like this one, in fact it's so impressive two other people on my team have also purchased one.
One word of caution, because of it's compact weight block this was uncontrollable at first, until I took out all the side weight.
Rating: Without a doubt an easy 9 out of 10.
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24 yeras old, and a first year bowler, started about this time last year. Uncle is a great bowler, taught me the basics of the release and proper technique, blah blah blah. So it's time to get a ball, he says Icon II is the one to get. So that's what I get. Struggle for 4-5 months with it, sometimes uncontrollable hook, sometimes better off with a lane ball. About 2 months ago started in my first league, medium/heavy oil. Go throug the first 10 weeks with a 168 average. Nothing spectacular, maybe 1-2 600 series. All the sudden I start understanding something with my hand, next thing I know I"m playing 3rd board and killing the pocket. Last 6 weeks with the ball, series of 636, 719, 690, 697, 710, and 699. Average is up to 192. Had games of 279/268/257/251 in there. I don't know what people are talking about with no back end. Had this ball stripped once, and it hooks more now than when I started. I love it, best ball I could have purchased. Already stopped making them from what I've heard. Looking for another comparable ball, any suggestions?
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a flute with no holes is not a flute. a donut with no hole is a danish - the immortal ty webb
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Great ball only if u polish it every month b/c the backend dies if u don't. But i do have good news... I shot 279 with this ball. If u shine it the skid/snap comes back. I've been thinking of sanding up to have it take on a little more oil. Well when i get it sanded i will tell you how good the ball takes the oil.
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Sup G dawg
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well its been about a month since i sanded it to about 1200. With a top coat of polish this ball has been unbelievable. Compared to the compound finish this ball starts up a little early but i have found the hitting power has increased and i carry alot more on less then perfect shots. The backend is not as much as the first 30 games but thats my fault for not cleaning it.
Value: 10 cuz i won it in a raffle
Hitting power: 9.5 cuz i don't always carry the ten pin
Light oil: 3.0 when you encounter dry this particle is done leave it in the bag
medium oil: 9.0 Great no problems on this condition
Heavy oil: 7.0 the backend is really useless normally you only get an arc which doesn't carry a lot but still you can score if you play down and in
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Intill the day i die, i spill my heart for you
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Im not a columbia tec or particle fan at all. The ball was cheap and wanted to try it out. Pin above ring finger with the 5in cg swung out an inch. The ball simply dies out. Started great doing what i wanted it to do. Dull finish with a late arc. Then it lost its hook, and lost its spot in the bag. It carries...its consistent, but columbia particle is not where it should be. I dont know where people find the ones that last. I hear and see and bowl with one that goes for 20 games, and dies out. Never again.
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This ball flat out hooks. It needs oil to perform, and without it, energy is lost and the ball looks bad. This is an extremely aggressive ball, and Skeglesswonder, unless you're bowling on a frozen pond, your attempt at belittling this ball has made you look bad.
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I picked this ball up from a friend that had used it for a while, it is a great ball i am happy i did get it. Everyone said that it dies, not mine i don't know if other dies but this one will not give up. It does need oil. This is a great ball for a person who loves back ends. Great ball!!!!
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I picked up this ball and an Icon 300 from a bowler who used for a lot of games, had to be at least 300 or more.
Right Handed, 16#, CG in midline of the grip, Pin off to the right of the ring finger
Have no idea why people think the ball dies out after 20-30 games, becasue this ball HOOKS. needs medium to medium-dry lanes, though, ball does not hook in oil at all. It's also pretty versatile. I've been using it for 3 pins, 10 pins, anything on the right side.
Great Ball
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This a pretty good ball. Goes further down the lane to create the snap you like to have. Bowled a 300 with this one.
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Thank you, TS7299
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Sorry i had to put this one back on the shelf. It got chewed up in a ball return in jr. gold, so i had to get it replaced. I sanded the ball down a lot. This ball went threw the oil with no problem, and once it hit the backend it took off. The ball was amazing. Definetly my heavy oil ball