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alex

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Perfect And Arch Rival
« on: October 21, 2008, 04:43:57 AM »
Has anybody thrown both these balls and can tell me what different reacations,if any,they have observed?
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TheSquirrel

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 12:57:37 PM »
I have both pieces.

The Arch rival is overall a touch weaker than the Perfect.  The Arch Rival is smoother off the spot but is very continuous.  The Perfect is a touch stronger midlane, not earlier, and sparks off the spot stronger.  The Perfect is more skid flippier than Arch but still controllable.  Columbia doesn't have a whippy out of control ball except for the Dead Flush which is being replaced by the Loud Noize.
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bluerrpilot

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 11:31:10 PM »
All I know is the Perfect Rival will be in my top five ugliest balls made.
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ChrisLak

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2008, 06:15:23 AM »
I also have both balls and have to say that the perfect for me maybe the ball of the year. The perfect is just as strong in the mid but the back end reaction is more. First match out of box 300-267-234=801. If u have a chance to drill a perfect the name speaks for its self.
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TheSquirrel

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2008, 07:05:19 AM »
I agree with ChrisLak, this ball is best one from C300 since Momentum and cant tell you why exactly but I was struggling to carry in two of my leagues this year and now I have been able to carry and really open up the lane.  It does not remind me of a pearl because of the strength midlane.........Shine it and its not ugly at all....HAHA
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alex

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2008, 10:17:57 AM »
Squirrel,is the Perfect a pearl?
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cheech

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2008, 10:19:13 AM »
ya you cant go wrong with either of them especially if you have hand. one of them HAS to be ball of the year
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on the way maybe.....the sauce or momentum swing.
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TheSquirrel

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2008, 12:10:32 PM »
Well in BTM it states its not a pearl, but to me its seems more like a pearl than a solid especially when I shined it....

Edited on 10/22/2008 12:41 PM
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cheech

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 01:22:52 PM »
well thats the definition of a pearl...shining or putting polish on it........it comes at 2000 or 4000 dull right?
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HG:300x2(SR300 both)289(sawblade)280(SR300)
HS:792(SR300)778(SR300)778(SR300/Dr.Jekyll)
2004 NYSPHSAA team champions
2007 NYSPHSAA individual high game(300) and series(1411-6 games)
current arsenal:
rival, arch rival, dead flush,scout,
blue vibe
SR300, RXS300 maxim
on the way maybe.....the sauce or momentum swing.
sacred heart university bowling, frosh. ave:204.6 sport
    218 THS
p.s. go leftys
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TheSquirrel

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 02:16:17 PM »
The ball is a solid and reacts like one out of the box at 4000 and really seems to be smooth like the original Rival with more backend, with it shiny it picks up a couple feet later but makes up boards in the back where original Rival just seemed to go longer polish and never get out of the roll stage.
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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 10:05:49 PM »
quote:
well thats the definition of a pearl...shining or putting polish on it........


Since when???
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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2008, 11:04:32 AM »
I have all three Rivals, and there is definitely a difference between them, I have drilled all three identical just so I could see for myself the difference.

For me, the Rival is about 5 feet sooner than the Arch Rival, where the Perfect Rival checks up a little sooner than the Arch, they both have the continuatuion through the pin deck that the Rival has but the Perfect isn't as snappy as the Arch.

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LuckyLefty

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Re: Perfect And Arch Rival
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2008, 11:08:34 AM »
What Dale has said matches up with the videos of the Rival and Arch.  And then matches up with the descriptions of the perfect.

REgards,

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