Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
FEATURES: BENEFITS:
CORE TECHNOLOGY: Fired, undrillable Titanium ceramic core. This dense Titanium ceramic core concentrates mass at the center of the ball, generating more rotation off the bowler's hand, which equates to more hook potential.
COVERSTOCK: Super-Flex This aggressive, pearlized, reactive shell produces skid through the heads and a sharp turn on the backend of the lane.
Track Flare: 4-5 inches
Color: Blue/Silver/Purple Multi-color
Finish: Polished
Available Weights: 12,13,14,15,16 lbs
HARDNESS: 75-78 ABC/WIBC approved
Post by: BowlPro on March 04, 2002, 10:32:39 PM
Anyone who has had any of the first two Messenger/Ti's will
need to run to their local proshops and get this one too!
The ball is driller friendly! will work with many different
layouts and drilling patterns.
Maybe the Best Buy for the money! Hard Hitting!!!
The New Messenger does feature a slightly more aggressive cover
stock than the "Black/Gold" Messenger/Ti.
This ball provides great length and strong Backend!
Adaptable to most league conditions. Great all round performance!
Just a great ball from Columbia!
We highly recommend the ball to all bowlers!
BowlPro
www.discount-proshop.com
Post by: Paul Nosek on March 10, 2002, 10:51:09 PM
First, this is a very cool looking ball.
Second, like its cousins, it's inexpensive.
Third, it's fun to watch.
This is essentially the same ball as the Black/Gold Ti-Mess Pearl with a tweak to the core, making it slightly flippier. It has plenty of scoot on any condition I've used it on, saving everything for the back. When it gets there, it revs and turns, and just kicks.
On my home lanes, it's almost too flippy the way it's been drilled. Lots of length despite a low pin drilling, the entry angle it creates requires me to target a breakpoint about 3 boards further right of my usual spot. Incidentally, I recently drilled a red Pulse almost identically except the Pulse has a x-hole at 2 1/4 past the PAP, and it still has its dull box 600 (?) sheen finish. The b/s/p forces me to move left about 5 boards and target 2-3 boards outside compared to the Pulse, it's that flippy. That is a huge difference in launch angle to get to the pocket.
If you like entry angle, you will love this ball.
Post by: Richard M Maloney on March 12, 2002, 11:09:09 AM
Way to go Columbia
Post by: grinder11 on April 02, 2002, 11:42:37 AM
Post by: Sniper206 on May 01, 2002, 02:31:19 PM
I got my Ti Pearl b/s/p with a 3-4 inch pin and 3 oz. top... I set it with the pin directly under my ring finger and the CG out 3 1/2 inches, and a weight hole was placed to take out the extra 2 ounces side...
This ball is all CONTROL!! I have never had a ball be so smooth, but yet so violent!! I took it on a fresh shot stood 25 hit 15 and it demolished the rack. I stood the same hit up on it real hard and put it to 7, and sent messengers everywhere... This ball will do what you want it to do as long as you have any sort of hand.. Power players will have one agressive mid-priced ball!!!
on a scale 1-10
versatility- 7.5
control- 9.5
hook- 7
i give the Ti Pearl b/s/p an 8!!!!
Post by: DRILLER on May 09, 2002, 11:34:58 PM
Post by: YoungGun on May 29, 2002, 09:59:49 PM
first of all, the very first Columbia that i owned was the old blue Ti Boss II, one of the best balls ever in my opinion. i bought that ball new and sold it about 1 year ago, dumb me! i drifted and went to Ebonite (the red/blue Apex, afterburner) and had pretty good success at first (my first 299 game and a 734 series [as a 266 being the high game of the series] within about a 2 week time span. then, all heck broke loose and i guess i thought i was the best and no matter what i did, i would do it good. yeah right! i went from a 198 average to a 168 average this fall, keep in mind i am only 17. i changed everything from the shoes to the bowling bag, but i finally concluded that a break and a new ball could do the trick.
i actually evied the days when i bowled with "old blue" (TI Boss) and wanted to go to something as similar as i could. i read reviews and watched for "newcomers" for about 3 months (my "slump" lasted for about 7 months). i finally broke my search down to 2 balls: the Spirit (because of the core design being similar to the TI BOSS [bullet shaped]) and the TI Messenger b/s/p. i studied, prayed, thought, fought, and everything else to finally choose the Messenger. by the way, i was wanting to go back to Columbia, but STORM was my 2nd choice. Ebonite and the "rest" was not even though about.
i got my messenger 4 days ago when i was in Harrogette (not sure about the spelling), Tennessee. 156.00 drilled and all (thumb and finger inserts). with the weight block bulbed out more the other TI Messenger Pearl, i figured this ball would go farther so i reluctantly had NO finger weight drilled into it. the pin ended up being about 1 inch up and about 1.5 inches over from the ring finger, giving it NO finger weight and 3/4 ounces of side weight.
i throw this ball standing 2-5 boards outside of the middle dot on the approach over the second arrow on the lane and out to about the 6-7 board area at about 17.5 mph with medium everything (spin, follow through, rotation). this ball runs just as smooth as the old boss i had just with alot more "umph". playing this line, the ball runs just as straight as can be until about 3/4 through the midlane when it straitens up and runs parallel with the gutter. the ball fools you by seeming like that is all it's got, but man am i surprised when this thing takes off. this is like Trauma ER backend! the only problem i have is hitting flush. when i do actually hit flush pocket, i tend to leave 1 or BOTH of the corner pins, but i think this is easily corrected by sliding forward or backward on the approach a little.
so far i have went from the 168 average that i told you about to a 205.25 in the last 3 days, bowling 10 games. highest game being a 232 and lowest being a 181. there is nothing spectacular about these scores at all, but for a decent bowler for myself who has been in a huge slump, Columbia has been and will be the best ball manufactuer ever. this ball is one of the most controllable balls i have thrown. and versatility is uncontended, but that's the case for all Columbia balls in my opinion.
a very good ball from Columbia...good job and thank you very much
also, last time i posted a message i got several "complaints" that i dont capitalize nothing and that i should go back to school. well, for the people who complain, i'm not making you read my review...for the one's that appreciate hearing what people think of new equipment-THANKS
Post by: Porgy on May 29, 2002, 11:34:48 PM
Post by: YoungGun on June 07, 2002, 10:11:38 AM
the first game i had a 243 with an open in the 4th frame. the second game, i had a 242 with 2 spares. And on the 3rd, i rolled a 223 which i got tapped a few times. the 223 was the 17th game that i rolled with the b/s/p. SO, within 17 games i rolled a 708, which is NOT bad for a bowler that had been averaging a 504 series for the last 5 months.
my mom had a total series of 361 which held us back tons. we had a series of 1276 w/handicap and were in 1st till the last set on the last day when 2 others beat us out.
anyways, i am overly impressed with this ball. i thought i would just keep it for a little while, but i think i'll keep it till i out grow it.
Post by: pnutbutrsangwich on September 16, 2002, 01:12:34 PM
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Post by: northface28 on November 19, 2002, 02:10:46 AM
Drilling 4x5, one coat of black magic. This is the ultimate skid/snap ball. Fast reving and hard-hitting. The perfect "wall/ball" stand left and throw right. This ball just barrels through the pocket like a fullback on a 4th and 1 play at the goalline. With the intense angle of this ball I leave a lot of 9 pins and the occasional stone 8. But this is a great ball. Everyone needs a flippy pearl reactive in their bag and this is mine.
Post by: Camtheman on June 29, 2003, 03:54:18 PM
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im 12..
average is around 190-200
shot 289 on a sport league.
won all stars
my balls are: White Dot black silver caramel,
Monster Frenzy
X-Factor Duece.....all 15lbs
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Post by: slammin60123 on October 02, 2003, 07:59:07 PM
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A Bowling Ball A Day Keeps The Doctor Away
Post by: Kevin62571 on October 06, 2003, 02:21:55 AM
It does seem like a good ball and I kinda like it, but I don't like having to change my hand position just to be able to play the 4th arrow on medium oil. Just warning you, it might not be a good ball for someone with a lot of hand in the ball or a high track.
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I have a high track and high revs with about 17mph.
Post by: bobojimmye on December 17, 2003, 12:47:05 AM
Post by: brianthegwp69 on January 02, 2004, 03:01:56 PM
Post by: harrylegthigh on January 03, 2004, 02:44:56 PM
This ball was reasonably priced I thought at 87.50, and paid 35 to have it drilled and inserts installed. It rolls like a big handsome man and is simply a dream I love it!
The pin is set just over the ring finger and the cG is somewhere not sure where but still what a great a beautiful ball going down the lane. I see so many people using the Ti Messenger brown/gold but this one seems to hook slightly more. get one you may enjoy good bowling and happy new year.
harrylegthigh
Post by: BowlingFool on February 19, 2004, 01:56:15 PM
Post by: BowlingBlues on March 25, 2004, 01:06:37 AM
I have had this ball for about 16 months and have got about 200 games out of it, before it finally died. I have tried several different things to bring it back to life, but it is a goner. However, I loved this ball so much when it was alive, that I went and bought another one today, just in time for spring league. It would be great to own a reactive ball that would last for years, but at $130.00 drilled and fingertipped, I will use it up at that bargain price.
I am a medium rev bowler with medium speed. I like to play it straight up the 10 board and it usually comes back. It glides thru the fronts and boy does it come back hard on the backend. This ball is meant for medium oil, not heavy oil. So stay away from the middle and you will be fine playing the outside where the oil is lighter. A good league ball for average conditions.
This ball has boosted my average by almost 25 pins and would highly recommend it for those middle of the road average bowlers, wanting to boost your average without breaking your wallet.
Post by: brianthegwp69 on June 08, 2004, 02:24:43 AM
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Marc Lawrence niles, ohio freeway lanes
Post by: warewols on September 17, 2008, 10:15:37 AM
I bought this ball at a garage sale about a week ago. The guy that owned it was an older gentleman and had not bowled in a couple of years. I think that I paid $15 for it. I took it in not thinking too much, and had the thumb plugged and re-drilled. And it was the best investment I have made in a while.
This ball is phenomenal. I am a 165-170 bowler, depending on the house, and with this ball I pulled off a 600 series easily last night. It hits the pocket like a freight train. I was a hammer fan, but after using this ball, my next purchase will be a Columbia.