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Post by: BuddiesProShopcom-Chris on July 12, 2001, 10:39:15 PM
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Post by: Charlie Lacy on August 08, 2001, 12:39:54 PM
I drilled mine 4x2 with a 320 compound shine and what a great
roll and large hook. This ball does not give up when lost right
and gives tremendous carry on off hits. Angle of entry is still
hard left even playing left of 3Rd arrow.
Post by: Zman on August 26, 2001, 09:53:32 AM
PAP - is 5 3/4ver 3/4 up.
SPEED - 16-17 mph
REVS - Slightly above average. Most would call me a tweener.
LANE CONDITION - Fresh 36 feet, stripped back ends. Heavier oil down the middle. Typical house shot that is easy to find the pocket. Heavier oil outside the 5 board on both sides of the lane, If you swing the ball too steeply and get out past 5 at the break point you will leave a wash out.
As a comparison I 1st threw a Rock On drilled 3 3/8 x 3 3/8 with a weight hole
on the VAL and horizontal grip line. The Rock On to flush the pocket was 23 to the 7 board. This gave a couple of boards on either side to still hit the pocket.
Reaction Roll out hooked this Rock On by 12 boards. This is the largest hooking ball I have ever thrown. Similar arc pattern to the Rock On. Smooth continuous arc and powerful hit. It also gave more room for error to still hit and carry all ten. This is definitely a heavy oil ball. On a medium condition like the one I tested this on you will have to bag it before you can finish all 3 games, too much ball for a medium fresh back end condition.
Post by: bowlingking on September 09, 2001, 08:29:28 PM
I tried this ball on freshly oiled synthetic lanes. The shot is a basic wet-dry with the insides pretty heavily oiled and the outside dry. I found that with the Reaction Roll, even keeping it inside of 5 this ball was still way too much. I was standing 25, which is much further left than i normally stand and was throwing from 15 to 7 and having trouble keeping the ball from coming up heavy or crossing.
But when i did keep it on the right side of the head pin the hit was good and the carry was good without any 10 pins. And I do have to say that the hook was definately stronger with the Reaction Roll than my Red Monster and my Trauma ER.
Overall I would have to say this ball is an excellent ball to have in your bag for heavy oil. I give it a 9.99 out of 10 because of its tremendous hook.
Post by: tommylamb on September 10, 2001, 11:10:55 PM
Post by: hank on September 14, 2001, 11:24:59 AM
I just received the Roll Tuesday. I bowled in league Thursday night. The ball surprised me a bit. I throw mid 16's to 17 mph with medium hand. I was told it hooked more than a Rock On, which I currently have, they were right. Other people in the league had problems getting the ball to get back to the pocket. I did not. I stood at 30 and swung it from 15 out to 8 and it came back and hit like a freight train. Good ball for heavy oil and carry down. Put it away for the second shift or fried heads. I give this ball a solid 9 out of 10.
Post by: drillwizard on September 22, 2001, 10:27:29 PM
Hole on VAL down straight across from thumb.
Modified thumb leverage
I have tried just about every ball and this
one outhooks them all.
That includes the Rock-ON, Evo. Tour, and Colossus.
Tried on a variety of lane conditions
usually too much ball except for med-heavy to heavy.
Carry is good with oil but as to be expected
roll-out with dry.
I would bet this would be an awesome ball polished.
This is definetly the biggest hooker out right now.
Post by: Tcn1486 on December 23, 2001, 06:28:01 PM
Post by: Chris Postel on January 08, 2002, 07:27:56 PM
Ball rolls nice and smooth and another tip is if you get it, don't loft that much because you will leave up some corner pins. Great ball from Columbia.
Post by: revjolly on January 09, 2002, 01:13:25 PM
Post by: ColumbiaXxXBowler on January 22, 2002, 04:27:15 PM
Post by: UNObowler01 on February 11, 2002, 12:50:00 PM
Out of box specs: pin out 3", 3 3/4 oz. top weight, 15.3 lbs.
My Ricochet and RIP are both layed out in a 5 x 5 pattern, that gives good length and smooth backend turn. I wanted this ball to start sooner and roll harder, but didn't want to vary too far from this layout. Its worked great on both the Ricochet and RIP, so I just slightly altered it for the ROLL.
I set the ROLL up in a 5 x 5 1/2 pattern, pin just above the ring finger, CG in grip center, and mass bias right next to thumb on weak (left) side. This put the mass bias in my track.
DEFINITELY A WINNER! Used the ROLL in a college tournament this weekend for the first time. My Ricochet wasn't finishing, and my Rock-On just rolled out on me. With this ball I was sliding on 25 and pitching over 15 at the arrows. The ROLL made it out to around 10, and at about 42 feet turned over and mowed thru the pocket. SWEET roll, intense carry. When it hits the pocket, there is nothing that can stop it. I left a few 10 pins, but no 8s or 9s, despite how hard the ball hit.
Had to put it up after the 2nd game, I had to move too deep for it to retain enough energy. Thats to be expected though, with an agressive ball like this. Only negative-did not swish pins very well for such a powerful reaction. Light hits resulted in lots of 7 pins. Other that, a real winner.
9 out of 10, loses a point for versatility, but DEFINITELY the ball for long, heavy patterns. I've never had a ball that rolls like this. Very nice job Columbia for developing the BEST arsenal I've ever seen. By far, REACTION is the most complete line I've ever had. I'm not sure where the ARC will fit in, but might have to try it anyway.
Post by: Huddersfieldybc on February 14, 2002, 04:42:45 PM
I have only had this ball for 2 weeks but it seems very very good. It is pritty much like the rock on but has a bit sharper backend than the rock on but sdame classic pin reaction. So if you both balls like me use the rck on, on pitty oily lanes and the reation rool on heavy oiled lanes.
Overall rating: 8 1/2 out of 10 (hookes a bit too much, can olny be used on a few lanes.)
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on February 19, 2002, 09:33:00 PM
This ball hits hard, has a great drive though the pins and and tremendous arc into pocket.
The one thing about it that bothers me is that it is very high maintenance. You have to clean it and clean it often......and sand it......because this thing soaks oil up like there is no tomorrow
Great ball, columbia did a great job here This ball is a stron 9 out of 10
Post by: supa horce85 on February 20, 2002, 09:19:08 PM
Post by: Ed Ford on February 21, 2002, 07:52:58 PM
I bought this ball for heavy oil and had it drilled to enhance its designed in characteristics - early roll with a smooth arc to the pocket.
Our league conditions are walled, having 60 units of oil 8 to 8, 35 feet down, with fresh back ends on new synthetic lanes. The first time I used the ball in the fresh oil it did just what it was designed to do. Rev'd early in the heads, continued strong through the midlane, found the dry and moved - 206 first game on fresh (5 minutes old) oil. This is definitely a heavy oil ball which does all that it was advertised to do. I am expecting much higher scoring in league from now on.
Good job Columbia. On a scale of 1 to 10 a definite 10 on the conditions it was designed for.
Note: review my profile if you want to see if your style matches mine.
Post by: WannaBe on April 05, 2002, 03:04:16 PM
I have left this ball dull the whole time and it is the first piece I reach for on heavy oil. I would think this ball would have little use on typical walled league conditions unless you shine it like glass or throw it 22 mph with 10 revs. However, on more heavily oiled tournament-type conditions, this ball stands up nice for me and just locks in the pocket without rolling out dead. Definitely not a back-end flipper for me, but that’s not what I want on oil anyway. Gives early roll and control of breakpoint. Lots of shots that you know are dead-flush 40 feet down the lane. On the right condition, it sometimes seems like cheatin’ with this ball. It’s also very clear when to put it away.
One caveat about this ball (noted by LittleCrank2 in a previous post) is that this ball is extremely high-maintenance. It soaks oil like a sponge. In fact, owning this ball is what finally convinced me I needed my own ball spinner. I clean it religiously after every use and like to sand it with 220-320. This has allowed it to maintain it’s box reaction, at least for me.
I’ve never had enough oil to use it in league, but a must-have oiler for a stroker who bowls tournaments.
I don’t know too much about ball dynamics…I have it stacked leverage.
My style is stroker/tweener, approx 15-16 mph, rpms probably low-to-mid 300s.
Post by: gr8bambno on April 14, 2002, 06:57:40 PM
well i had been out of the loop for about 4 years so i needed to upgrade me equiptment and i did a lot of looking and studing and the roll seemed to be the best fit for me. i through it real hard (20-22 mph) but i always have. this ball has helped me out a huge amount. the 1st half of our league i was ave. around 180 and the secong half after i got my Roll i havent been under 620's scence. this ball has been my saving grace. my typical house condition in heavy through the middle so i can start on the middle dot throw over the 5-7 board and still make it back to the pocket and this is at 20 mph. for me that is a huge amount of hook. and i bowl with two other guys that r big swingers and not i can some what get some hook and i love it. great ball but like i have seen alot of people say it is high mataince. i found a scotchbrite pad to work the best. for ne one looking for a hooker this is it. big thanks to columbia for a good one!!
good luck and good bowling
Robby
Post by: Dave Mastropasqua on May 09, 2002, 03:19:30 PM
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Thats basically what it looks like the dot being the little hand print the star being the pin and cg is the cg.. This ball gets into an early roll but doesnt over react, it gets great distance and about 35 feet to 40 feet down the lanes it snaps/ hard arc.. It continues through the deck no ball deflection at all.. I leave tons of 8's and 9's with this ball.. A great compliment to the trauma er when u are lookign for somehting a bit more length with the same violent back end reaction.. I used to love columbias equipment (quake, cuda) but for a while they semed to be making some terible products, but seem to be back again with some good stuff
Post by: Zach Cauthron on June 09, 2002, 08:19:27 AM
and has a excellent backend
. I didn't have mine drilled for a huge hook but it just hits the lane and when it gets about 40 ft. down it hits like a monster truck
. I had my first ever 300 with this ball and I carried my highest average ever with this ball. On oil no doubt about it this ball loves oil
but on dry the ball fails
. I am giving this ball a perfect 10 and thanks Charlie's Pro Shoppe!
Post by: MichiganBowling on June 14, 2002, 12:41:00 AM
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Post by: Waialae_House_Bowler on January 01, 2003, 12:37:42 PM
If you have even medium revs or remotely slow speed, this ball will roll out somewhere around the arrows! I had mine drilled with a negative pin position above the fingers with positive weight (Ball had a 4.5" pin) in hopes of retaining some energy for the backend... NOPE! Ball still rolled at my feet! It hit like a tank but the break point was almost impossible to control.
Since the break point and overall hook on this ball is so hard to predict this ball should work beautifully for people who have no break point! In other words, if you have little hand in the ball and throw really hard (e.g. someone like Dave Traber or Butch Soper) then this is the ball of your dreams!
Me, personally... I gave mine away. I later asked the guy I gave it to how he was doing with it and guess what? He gave it away too! HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Post by: fabulous on January 25, 2003, 03:59:30 PM
To make thangs short and sweet check it out......I will give you a good review that will hopefully be helpful for you..
I'm RH: 210+ average: Cranker: low back swing, speed 20mph,
Ball heavy 15lbs, pin 3" out: Drilled @ 1:30: pin to the left of ringfinger about 1" over and down about an 1" (typical label drill) little side weight.
I played with the cover stock all the around from 320 to 1200, with and with out polish.
320 grit (a straight dud): heavy arc then rolls out, no recovery on heavy oil (3)
600 sheen out of Box: lots of 8's and 9's strong arc hard hitter, heavy med oil (7)
800 with light polish: cleaner through heads, better carry, no 8's or 9's but found 10's and 4's on occasion,(no biggie, just adjust) way more versitle (10)
1000 grit seemed to be getting skid flippy, it lost the hard arc and got a sanp, not effective for what the ball needs to do (6)
I like how the ball has a heavy roll and how easy it is to dial in and control. I was looking for more length but of course got more length and the snap. I never found a good match changing the cover up with this drill.
I found this ball worked well for me with about a 800 grit w/ polsih. I needed more length and a cleaner read through the heads so thats why the polish (burnt in light). The low Rg's and drill makes this ball want to hook off of your hand. NOT ALL WAYS GOOD. This ball is very strong and I can play damn near coast to coast (BUT THIS IS NOT A COAST TO COAST BALL) YOU MUST PLAY THE LANES AND TAKE WHAT THEY GIVE YOU OR SWITCH BALLS.
I had this ball re-drilled WEAKER, and I've already thrown it,and oooh weee. Peep out my next review, and I'll tell you all about it...
Post by: thecrapshoveler on March 10, 2003, 01:39:24 PM
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Post by: LuckyLefty on November 03, 2003, 10:57:10 AM
Specs for the first time ever in dealing with them were exactly what I asked for 3inch pin out and 3 ounce top weight!
Ball is dull out of box with a heavy particle load. Just what I wanted for syntetics with lots of long midlane oil.
Drilled in a way I havn't done in a long time 3 3/4 stacked. Which for me is a 3 3/4 X 3 1/4 drill. CG down about 1/2 of an inch below grip line for an earlier start. Weight hole in line from grip center thru cg on VAL. Sort of a modified REVs leverage. Note I had one of these real dull used before which was 3 3/8 stacked, small pin out.(that thing hooked the world all the way down the lane).
This ball looks like if it maintains its condition that it is going to be a REAL pleasant surprise.
Went in to a new center for me where I really haven't figured out the shot, and asked for an oily pair and got on a pair that this ball was hooking before the arrows and was hooked out by the 30 foot mark. Grabbed the Blade pearl tore this shot up throwing near 3rd arrow out to 10 at break!
Predominant feature of this newly synthetic house is that one must not go outside of 9 at the breakpoint. 2nd arrow bowlers are totally confused at this place. Straight up they go brooklyn, move to a slight swing and one ball is washout another is brooklyn. Way to play is near 3rd out to 10 BUT no wider!
Other balls in use at this place after oil are X factor deuces, AMF Evo Tours, Crunchs. Basically strong solid reactives and particles on their fresh oiled shot!
Now after one game they tell me I have to move for an incoming league. So much for minimum wage help!
Go down the whole house and immediately throw 3 gutters with the Blade pearl on same line, then move five boards left and throw two with the Rebel ECX. The old El Nino looks pretty good. But the EZ Money labors inside.
Maybe the Roll will work!!!? Sweet!!! This thing out of box allows me to go back to the 3rd arrow standing 26 and this thing as long as only thrown out to right of 9, (Think the Pro Tour Pepsi shot from Nov 2, 2003) anywhere at 9, 10, 11, or 12 really turns the corner. Turns smoothly but hard, showing a lot of friction and maybe a little roll out but still carries and kicks out the 7 pin hard!!!! Bowled a couple of games on this truly oily shot and had a couple of nice strings. The way this ball bites and grinds in the heavy stuff it reminds me of my old Jade Quantum, which was drilled to have less backend.
This ball reminds me of my Pantera drilled full REvs leverage which was the strongest ball I ever had. This ball with a modified REVs leverage covers the same hook pattern and is earlier in the heads. Lots of flare also generating at least 5 to 7 inches for this medium hand lefty!
I could see if I wanted to use this full time in league leaving dull but going up slightly in grit. Maybe from 600 up to 1000. For slightly less head and mid oil I have my lower load Reaction Rev. Also a great ball.
This ball is a keeper.
Also what I'm starting to maybe learn is I may be a higher tracker than I thought with a PAP that might be even closer to 6 then I thought(meaning a lot of my 4 1/2 drills may be closer to 5 1/4 for me. Stronger pins are starting to give me the look that I like on todays heavier oiled midlane conditions.
Along with drills closer to stacked, are allowing me to turn the corner while playing inside away from those hang spots!
The Reaction Roll looks like a heavy oil tool that is going to let me do it!
REgards,
Luckylefty
Post by: sapper on December 29, 2003, 02:16:52 AM
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Post by: Oskuposer on May 02, 2005, 11:21:30 PM
x=weight hole
0=finger or thumb hole
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c=cg
Pin is acually just under bridge not drilled into
0*0
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It is very smooth with a stong heavy roll at the end good ball for roll. Perfectly named.
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Post by: killswitch66 on May 07, 2006, 12:51:55 AM
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Post by: leftyinhawaii on February 25, 2007, 04:34:17 AM
Here's a few shots of me throwing this great ball. Makes this crappy bowler look margianlly good. http://media.putfile.com/Bowling-with-Columbia-Reaction-Rolll
Here's a few more:
http://media.putfile.com/More-Reaction-Roll
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Post by: JessN16 on May 29, 2008, 12:21:42 AM
The drill: "Girard layout," pin 1 1/4 inches below and on the track side of the thumb, CG in grip center, no weight hole. Makes the drill about 5.25 x 4 for me. Surface is currently 2000 Abralon plus polish.
Me: PAP 4 over 3/8 up, tweener revs, good speed, good circumference coverage
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Bought this ball cheap off eBay from a closeout distributor. With shipping, I think I paid maybe $26.
I decided to use this ball as an experiment and drill the "Girard layout," which consists of putting the pin below the thumb and CG in the grip. It looks somewhat like a full-roller pattern even though I'm not a full roller.
The ball originally came somewhere between 400 and 600 sanded. It's a heavy-load particle and with that coverstock, it was going to be too much ball for my leagues by a mile. Still, I took it out and tested it on a medium to medium-light volume house shot without a dramatic wall on the outside.
The Girard layout makes the ball very arcy, very smooth. It revs up fairly quickly but still gets good continuation through the pins. You would think it would roll out quickly but it doesn't seem to. This is a nice "trick" layout to try and I'd like to try it on something that's not nearly as aggressive.
After this test, I took the ball up to 2000 and polished it with Storm's Moon Shine and tested it again on a pure medium shot, again without a lot of bounce room outside. Whereas my other equipment was playing 12 to 8, I could send this ball 15 out to 2 and watch it come steadily back.
Things weren't all good, however. Carry is strange from outside angles, there were some unexpected splits and the ball seems very condition-specific, even with polish.
Positives: Handles a ton of oil, smooth and even, doesn't get cheated for carry on full hits.
Negatives: Hard to polish, no forgiveness on high hits (lots of splits left), thrives only on medium-heavy and heavy oil.
Summary: If you need an oiler, you can pick this one up cheap. It's got a good core design and the cover is not afraid of current-day oils. But it's not as versatile as other heavy-oil balls and bowlers without decent ball speed might not be able to throw it at all. In the end, I got my money's worth, but only because of the price point at which I was able to acquire it.
Jess
Post by: gcfsa on January 28, 2010, 12:51:35 PM