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Title: Rock
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
The ROCK is an intense ball that features a break-through cover stock technology featuring Columbia's NEW exclusive TEC2 (patent pending) shell. TEC2 features an enhanced lane-gripping additive that bites through oil without hollow glass microspheres or hard particles found in other balls. The ROCK offers 4-5 inches of flare with a low Rg of 2.513 and a medium differential Rg of .046. This low Rg core, combined with our aggressive TEC2 shell, creates a strong hook in heavy oil. The core offers an efficient use of the dense mass that surrounds the ball's center. The ROCK has a hook rating of 26.5. The ROCK PEARL has a hook rating of 22.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: BuddiesProShopcom - Bill on July 12, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
We received the Rock and the Rock Pearl Monday.  Chris drilled the Rock with a 5" by 5" drilling, putting the pin under his ring finger.  Then sanded it with 600 and used 1200 degree polish on it.  It shined up easily.

On a normal league night with first shift oil, this ball was able to get through the head clean and into the midlane without a problem.  The Rock made its move around 40 to 45 feet and was 3-4 boards stronger than the Total Chaos, that is drilled similar.

This ball did well crossing pairs throughout the 4 game set.  The Rock kept the pins low and didn't lose its energy throughout the night.  I think this is another solid release from Columbia and will be a great ball to add to your bag.

Early reports were that the Rock outhooked anything, and we found on our normal house shot that the Messenger TEC cover a couple more boards.  On a Scale of 1-10, I would give this ball a solid 8.5.  This ball is easy to adjust the shell to fit most bowler, and with the proven Pulse core this ball will be the choice of a lot of bowlers.

I will make a posting on the Rock Pearl, later this week.

Thanks

Bill
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Kelly Beasley on August 02, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
This will be a fantastic seller for Columbia.  They have came out with a hooking ball that will match up with many of the slicker tournament patterns.  This ball HOOKS.  But it doesn't quit like some of the other Columbia balls.  This is a must ball for every tournament bowler.  I have sold about 20 of these in the first week of having them in my shop, they sell themselves.  I hope that everyone out there will like the ROCK as much as I do.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: striker300 on August 18, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
I've had this ball for a while now and I just couldn't get this ball to play well for me, I tried cover adjustments and the ball was too over under for me.  So I drilled it up for a freind of mine who hits the ball a little bit harder than I do and he loves.  This ball wants to hook as soon as it touches the lane and it is so smooth becase of the core in it and agressive cover.  This would be my choice for heavy oil
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: SKIP on September 01, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
I HAVE TO BE HONEST, I HAVE NOT THROWN A COLUMBIA BALL IN FOUR YEARS.  WHEN THIS BALL CAME OUT, ALL THE HYPE INTRIGUED ME SO I GAVE IN AND PURCHASED IT.  I HAVE MINE DRILLED 4X4 WITH THE PIN ABOVE MY RING FINGER.  THIS BALL IS AWESOME, IT HITS HARDER THAN MY CARBIDE AND ALL OF MY MATRIX'S.  THIS DRILLING GIVE ME GOOD LENGTH THRU THE HEADS AND A MINE BLOWING BACK END.  I STAND 35 LAY IT DOWN OVER THE 15 AND BELLY IT OUT TO THE 6 AND IT COMES BACK EXTREMLY HARD.  THIS BALL IS NOT FORGIVING IF YOU LET UP ON THE SPEED, IT WILL GO THRU THE NOSE AND LEAVE SOME NASTY BOOGERS.  I HAVE TO THROW IT ABOUT A 1 MPH FASTER THAN THE CARBIDE.  ALL IN ALL IT IS A MONSTER OF A BALL, IRATE IT A 10.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Mike James on September 04, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
 HI,

GOT THE ROCK SEVERAL WEEKS AGO AND HAD IT DRILLED WITH PIN ABOVE THE RING FINGER AND CG AT MID GRIP..I DON'T HAVE MUCH HAND IN TURNING THE BALL BUT WANTED THIS LAYOUT SO THE BALL WOULD GET THROUGH THE HEADS BEFORE TURNING SO AS TO USE THE BALL MORE OFTEN BEFORE THE LANES DRY UP...I CAN TELL YOU THIS..IF YOU LIKE THE BLACK CHAOS YOU WILL LOVE THIS BALL...I USUALLY PLAY STRAIGHT UP THE BOARDS BUT WITH THE ROCK I FIND MYSELF MOVING LEFT AND PLAYING INSIDE AND "IT WILL CARRY" OTHER BALLS I'VE HAD WOULD NOT HIT HARD ENOUGH TO CARRY THE CORNER PINS ON AN INSIDE SHOT...I'VE KEPT THE BALL IN BOX CONDITION AND WOULD SAY THAT THEIR 26.5 HOOK RATING MAY BE REAL...
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: D-Kyanite-D on September 11, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
To update everyone,

I just wanted you all to know I got the ball drilled with the pin(about three inches out) at about 1:30 and the cg offset about a two inches off to the right...i'm right handed.  All I have to say is wow this ball loves oil.   Take extreme caution when using this ball on dry or even medium lanes.....  My ball is drilled for both hook and control(drilled slightly tame) and I by the end of the thrid game on freshly conditioned synthetics the ball is hooking an easy 25 boards.  I would definitely suggest this ball as your heavy oil/ first shift ball.  I sometime change my ball in the third game to my lesser aggresive ball, which happens to be my El Nino 2K.  Anyway this ball is definitely a 9 on a scale of 1 to 10.  The ball around 45 feet begins to make a left turn for the pocket. If explosive backend is desired...., you wont be disappointed
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Bowl299 on September 16, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
This ball for me have trouble carry tens pin out. I have another ball company ball that carry the ten pin better. But I still will try to use the ball to help me out on tougher lane condition that will let ball skid littlr better to carry the ten pin out
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Paul Meyer on September 28, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
Drilled my Rock with the pin above fingers and mass bias in the strong position. I needed an extra on hole, which i placed 5 1/2 inches from the center of my grip.

This ball does hook quite a bit, even though I polished it pretty nicely with Black Magic. Overall , a smooth constant arcing ball, which hits quite hard. Basically this ball is a a stronger version of the original Red Pulse. Except this ball will definitely hook more in the oil than a pulse. Not a bad ball at all, just a bit on the pricey side.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Bagman on September 28, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
Just had my rock drilled,This ball is a monster on oil! Ball was drilled stack leverage,with 7/8 finger and 13/16 side weight. I usually throw my hpd down and in but had to move 6 boards inside and throw out to 7 board with the rock, It went down the lane to 40 feet then made a consistant left hand turn to the pocket. shot 3 practice games with this ball and shot 191,220,221 if i could only pick up a 10 pin (missed 3) This ball is very predictable and hits vey hard on the back end I think columbia has scored BIG with this one. Rating it a 9,Keep up the good work columbia.





Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Bagman on September 30, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
Got a few games on the rock and thought i would give it another reveiw,Went to my bowling house and shot 4 practice games 266,235,232,216 This ball is the best i've ever seen! The condition was heavy oil middle with carrydown stood on center dot on approach threw down 7 board and the ball came back HARD on the backend consistantly,I have been bowling this house 13 years and never thru a 700 in practice or league night. The rock is drilled up 3 3/8x3 3/8 stacked leverage with a small weight hole near the pap, finger holes located 1" left of center and pin is 2" above ring finger at 1 o'clock. This is an excellent drill for this ball. I first rated this ball a 9 I'm now rating it a 10+ I dont think anybody should not Have this ball in there arsenal.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Bob Hanson on November 01, 2000, 01:00:00 AM
I drilled the Rock out for 2 reasons.  First I haven't been liking the reaction of my El Nino 2000 and second I have had a terrible time carrying with anything in a money league.  I left the Rock in box condition and put the pin at 3 3/8 from my PAP and the cg at about 2 1/2. I needed a balance hole which I put about and inch below the PAP.  I noticed two things about this ball that are really different from my other equipment.  First, it truly arcs. Everyone talks about getting more arc and less skid/snap but this ball really delivers in that area.  The other really noticeable thing was the lack of over under on a pretty walled up house shot.  I found the Rock to be relatively strong when I stayed in the oil, but very controllable for a strong ball when I intentionally sent it wide into the dry.  It will interesting to see whether it can retain these characteristics when the heads are a little burned or the track gets super dry.  I see the Rock as a very versatile ball that will carry pretty good on a lot of conditions.  It is cleaner through the heads than my 2000 or my riot zone, and smoother in the back end than my ARC.  The Rock definitely replaces my 2000 and will go into the arsenal along with the ARC and RZ when I have some oil.      
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: D-Kyanite-D on November 27, 2000, 05:00:09 PM
An update......,  I recently had a great deal of problems controlling this ball on my newly renovated AMF synthetic lanes.  As I had the ball driled at 1:30 with the CG set off about 1 inch I found that the ball would over react on the backend.  I'm talking about really over reacting.  I explained my problem to the my proshop operator and he suggested that I try polishing the ball up.  He polished it up with the lowest gloss and I try it while he looked on.  I must say that the ball did go alot longer, and fliped violently on the backend, hitting the pocket like a freight train.  The bad part is that the ball is beginning to return to its unpredictable form.  I originally bought this ball to attack the oil but have found a headache and a great deal of problems with this ball.  I heard many bowlers near me complain about the ball being to jumpy on the backend, and now I know what they mean.  This ball is still a hooking machine, but it's just not for me. It is to hard to predict and I have had a great deal of trouble controlling it thus far. If your finding that this is also happening to you, my proshop operator has suggested others to get the Rock Star..... that is if the "Rock Bowling Ball Line" from columbia is desired.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: wjxzi0b on December 06, 2000, 10:46:34 AM
I agree totally with StormMan 300 view that this ball dies after 60 or more games.  Both my son and I experinced the same thing and with my son who is left-handed he now uses the Rock to shoot his 7 pins.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: frank marino on December 11, 2000, 09:08:04 PM
i just bought this ball, shot it for the first time last thursday nite. used it for my first game shout a 265 the ball hits very hard, not a bad ball. will shot it again this thursday nite for 3 games will give another review on the rock next week
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: back-end on December 12, 2000, 11:53:52 AM
 The rock solid is very good ball. Hooks like hell when brand new. The problem is it loses its steam quite quickly. Some say after 60 games this ball is a dud. I  only used my mine for barely 3 months. I have quite a number of friends who have this same ball. As of the moment we are all trying to find a replacement for it. I wonder if it has anything to do with the TEC. We're kind of scared to purchase some of the other Columbia balls with TEC because it's not exactly worth your money
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Cuda/C Man on December 14, 2000, 10:16:19 PM
...The Rock is awesome! This ball hits hard and is very predictable!

   It doesn't "snap" on the backend like most reactive balls do - this ball is both powerful and controlable!

   The first night I used the Rock, it took me two games to dial it in - but I still managed 20 strikes for the series!! I left ONE 10-pin on the last ball of the night!

   I was wondering what all the hype about TEC-surfaced balls losing their hook was all about? Please let me in on it!

   Thanks and good bowling!!

                Cuda/C Man
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: matt smith on December 30, 2000, 08:17:16 PM
hi



got this driled the other day. it was the second drilling for medium lanes. i think that it was sumpin like 4X4 1/2.

this ball rolls great and even with this medium drilling it still turns the corner harder than any ball i have ever bowled with. it carries well. ill relate the carry to another modern ball that i got drilled that day. the matrix III. the matrix is maxed out and the rock still hooks more than the tps III and carries much better. i have bowled about 30-40 games with it so far and it hardly has a dent or scratch on it. so far so good...it hasnt died.



definitly a ball for real sloppy wet lanes....do not underestimate the hook on this ball. with the medium drilling on this ball my jaw dropped to the ground when i saw this thing hook.



i bowl at about 25 km/h and have average revs. i am currently standing an extra 7 boards left of where i normally do.....and puting less revs on it just so i can use it.



overall a great ball....when i can use it. good for the start of tounies when there is oil. carries corners well. overall 8.5 on the smith scale.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Vic Santos on January 03, 2001, 11:45:25 AM
just got the Rock more than a month ago. to try how effective this ball is, i have to travel nearly 140 miles (back and forth)to be able to play on a freshly oiled lanes. i was not the only one surprised with its hooking power but my co-bowlers too. but the Rock does not perform in medium/dry oil lanes. don't try and you will be disappointed.



a great ball from Columbia and definitely a favorite after the Mass Chaos.



thank you Columbia and Paul Meyer who provided me with the Rock and who has given me professional advices.



will post another review later on.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: frank marino on January 06, 2001, 06:31:28 PM
i used the rock for the last 2 weeks now, this ball leaves a lot of ten pins

regardles where i move to.

i am always in the pocket with this ball

just don,t take out the ten pin for me.

could be the house itself
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: MrsLoco on January 15, 2001, 12:42:35 PM
Hello,



I feel out of place posting here because I'm a amateur bowler but what they hey. I bought the Rock because of it's rave reviews and I'm very pleased with it. It's only a 13 pounder but it still carries a good hook. I've found that having to throw a 13 pounder it's hard to find a ball that can have a good hook and reaction. I'm very pleased with the Rock but watch out on dry lanes. I've haven't had to move that much on the approach before for when the dry go dry.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Sniper206 on April 03, 2001, 08:54:20 PM
i got my rock drilled stack leverage with the pin about 3/4 in. outside of my grip and my cg is just inside my grip between my thumb and ring finger.

i left it in the box finish and i have been completely impressed with my results with this ball. even though it is a particle ball and probably has between 200-250 games on it, it is still an outstanding ball. it didn't eat up the oil as quick as i thought like most particle equipment. it doesn't hook as much as it used to, but it still moves and it still demolishes the pocket. at first it was a good heavy pattern ball, but now i like it for carrydown, so i can open up the lane then switch to a more backend ball.. which would be my cuda 2000.. i give the rock a solid 9.. it would be a 10, but sometimes with it's strong breakpoint and entry angle, it sometimes leaves a hard 8 or heavy 9
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: waterville on May 13, 2001, 06:10:48 PM
I am a stroker, 16 mph with not much hand. Typical shot is down and in except with this ball. The ball is drilled for maximum leverage with box finish. Have used on both wood and synthetics. House patterns are both oiled to 36 feet 10 to 10. I have done well with this ball as it matches my shot. Does not generate a lot of pin reaction, (messengers), and it will leave a few corner pins. I find the ball very predictable responding to hand position ajustments and lane adjustments for the changing shot. It is not a short oil ball for me. I find it very affective with carry down when other balls are leaving corner pins. The one thing I did notice is that the more games it is used the less the ball will hoke. Have had the ball cleaned and resurfaced on a regular bases and was unable to restore its initial coverage. This could be the end of the season reaction as part of the lane break down, I don't know. It is a keeper for me.

I also have two other rocks, the pearl and the rock on. These are for another review.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: parlevelplayer on March 07, 2002, 01:19:53 PM
Well here's another late review on a Columbia ball.

I purchased this ball about 1 1/2 years ago, the ball is in 15-pounds
with a 3-inch pin. I drilled this ball with the pin in the 12 o'clock
position with the CG in the palm area.

The ball once used new hooks all over the lane and is somewhat uncontrolable.
but, once the oil starts to sink in the cover stock the reaction is more controlable. Important must keep cover stock clean after each use and touch up the cover with your pro shop (or spinner)this will help with long term use.

I have shot a 300 game with this ball and a few 700 series, I put this ball on the shelf for awhile, and recently I pulled this ball out of the shelf and I will post another review later on the proformance.

Parlevelplayer
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: parlevelplayer on March 08, 2002, 12:40:14 PM
This is a follow up review to the Rock; (please read my other Rock review)

I pull this ball out of the closet recently and I used this ball in my Thursday night league. I was using a release more like Brian Voss's.

I played standing on 27 on the aproach, 15 at the arrows and my breakpoint was on the 8th board.

The condition was medium oil with light carry down.

Well all I can say was what a great reaction I was receiving for the three league games I bowled (269,247,258 = 774 series)

Well this ball does have a place in your bowling bag (even after the ball has over or close to over 100 games)

Parlevelplayer
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: raff on October 07, 2002, 04:48:52 PM
I just bought the ball....  i really like the ball, it doesnt work @ all on dry lanes, works best on wet lanes! i have a 150, but after getting this ball i got a 198 average , good ball by Columbia!!!
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on May 29, 2003, 07:42:01 PM
I got incredible length out of this ball for a particle. Almost reactive like length with out the skid flip.

It had a tremendous roll to it. Very readable, much like the reaction Arc. It hit extremely hard and for a particle did not track out badly.

I could play all of the lane with the Rock. Just slight adjustments in hand position and the ball read it well.

I give the Rock a 9 out of 10. It would have been a perfect 10, but Rock on was not far behind, so this ball got pushed into reserve status.
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: imjouster on May 28, 2006, 04:30:08 AM
Check profile for Personal specs.
Ball: 15lb Columbia ROCK (pin-in)
Surface: Green Scotch Brite pad.
Drilled: Pin about 1/2 inch to the right of ring finger and 1/2 inch above. CG right on top of pin. No balance hole needed (barely)

This was a very impressive ball for me.  I still find myself pulling it out when i know I'm going to be encountering Heavy Oil.  Used the ball on all types of lines and patterns.  Ball would work great on anything from medium to heavy oil.  It didn't seem to have the problem with rolling out that a lot of other particles have.  The ball just kept on rolling.  I have well over 500 games on the ball now, and it still hooks almost as hard as it did from day one.  I've baked the Oil out of it 2 times.  Never resurfaced it (unless you want to call hitting it with a Green scotchbrite pad to dull it up resurfacing).  

The only ball I have had recently that I can successfully compare it to would be my Track Mutant.  Overall the Rock went longer than the Mutant but made a much more dramatic move on the backend.  The mutant was really rolly, and if there wasn't enough oil the ball would just lose all its energy and roll straight down the lane.  The Rock would usually hook somethiing like 2-3 boards more than the Mutant.  Mutant was drilled strong (can't remember exactly how but I remember it being a strong drilling)

The Rock didn't flare a whole bunch.  I think that partially is what caused it to not roll out very often and have such a strong backend.  Overall I loved the ball, still love it, just doesn't fit my hand so I usually don't roll it.  I'd give the ball an easy 10 out of 10.  Great ball Columbia.

Jeremy

--------------------
"Strive to be perfect,  that is afterall the only way to become perfect."

"If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans."


Taken from Desiderata


Proud user of Columbia 300 and Visionary Bowling Products
Title: Re: Rock
Post by: Jyank2002 on March 27, 2010, 12:18:27 PM
Right Handed
PIN up and out 1.5 inches right of ring finger.
Center of gravity 2 inches below ring on midline.
Medium oil conditions
Ball speed at time 13-14mph

Here's my story about the Rock. I picked this ball up in 2007 off a rack in a bowling center. I was new to bowling, and had only thrown a scout particle ball up until that day. This ball was the first ball I hooked, and it hasn't stopped since. It doesn't hook across the lane, but it is consistent. Hits hard, still today even, wow, what a ball. I have 10 balls now, and I'm a 190 league bowler, and sometimes I bring this bad boy out to play. My high with this ball was a 240ish.

Only negative is now that I compare it to my current equipment, the Rock leaves me a few more ten pins, even on solid pocket hits. But if you can find one around, give it a roll.

Jason