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Scout Reactive
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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The Scout Reactives have Columbia's Super-Flex Reactive Urethane coverstock. Columbia began with the same core as the Shadow/R. An offset heavy puck below the center of the ball is added inside the three-piece core. This puck creates pin out and medium differential Rg. This is the first three-piece Columbia ball with built-in track flare. It gets down the lane easily with good backend turn. The Scout Reactives have a hook rating of 13. They come in weights of 10-16 lbs. Hardness: 75-78.

 

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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2000, 02:00:00 AM »
I drilled the Black/Red Reactive with a simple over the label w/pin below the ring finger.  I used it tonight on a rather difficult shot were basically the only option was a straighter line.  The Scout cleared the head with ease but did make an impressive roll in the back with just enough flip to hit and be predictable at the same time.  For the price this is going to be a ball that every bowler should carry with them if nothing else than to have a ball to go to when the lanes require more of a track shot.

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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2000, 02:00:00 AM »
Thanks to Danny Speranza from Columbia for his Knowledge and support. I again had Roxanne George test this ball for me. Roxanne is one of Wisconsin's finest Lady Bowlers. She has a carbon copy physical game to the Touring Pro, "Kim Adler". So watch out Kim!!

This Shiny Dark Purple/Black Reactive has a modified three piece design with a Offset Mass Bias Puck towards the center of the core to control the break point. I personally think this is a wonderful idea and can really allow the Pro Shop Operator to have contol over the Ball's Motion. The only thing I don't like that I wish Columbia would do is "Mark" the mass bias with some sort of logo. To locate the mass bias I drew a line from the pin through the center of gravity 6 3/4 down to locate the spot. Without a "Free Spinner" to accurately locate the mass bias spot, this was the only way.

I set this ball up to go longer and arc even on the backends compared to her current equipment. I drilled this ball with the pin 4 1/2 inches from her PAP and set the mass bias line at a 110 degree arc from her PAP. The ball rolled truly like I thought. Good length, rev'd later, and arc'd hard but predictable on the last 15 feet.

This ball hits very hard and kept the pins very low for good carry. It proved to me that you don't need a Big Core to strike, just get it to the pocket which Roxanne has no problem doing.

If you are looking for a ball for medium to dry conditions with "Big Time" hit consider this ball, for the money it's a winner. Thank you Roxanne for testing this ball for me and also Thank you Danny Speranza from Columbia. I appreciate you reading my review.

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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2000, 02:00:00 AM »
I drilled this one up as an experiment to add to my dry lane arsenal.  This was a pin in ball and I stacked the pin and cg in the grip line for about a 4 3/4 stack.  My first impression of the ball was that it brought back memories of using a brand new yellow dot in the 70's.  That probably shouldn't come as a complete surprise since the 3 piece, high rg pancake weight block construction is reminiscent of early Columbia balls.  For you guys with some hand this ball could be an excellent option on a fairly wide variety of hooking conditions.  For lower rev strokers like myself it is going to be even more condition specific, requiring not just dry but a certain type of dry pattern. For example my first use was in the 4th game of a late league on older synthetics that have a very long oil pattern but are notorious for the track burning out between 10 and 15 board.  On one lane I was able to go fairly direct up 12 board and got a nice reaction in the pocket.  On the other lane the Scout wanted to hook early and set up on the nose until I got to third arrow.  From third I could get decent recovery when I swung it, but there was no way it was going to carry half pocket.  Again I am a low rev stroker.  I could picture a guy with some hand playing the same angle and getting pretty good pop in the pocket.  This ball is typical of many dry lane balls in that it will out hook its revs for me.  By that I mean it loses its optimum axis tilt ( not quite to the point of hooking out ) before it hits the pocket when I have to swing it out very much.  

For myself this could be a decent option on some conditions where I need to play outside 10 even though the shot is torched.  It is not going to be a "go to" dry lane ball every time the shot burns out and I can't play at 20 anymore.  I just don't have the hand to get this old high rg core to hit from there on todays high viscosity oil.  

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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2000, 02:00:00 AM »
Recently ran into lane conditions that made the Sahara Desert look

like a Rainforest. The ball would flip, setup, then roll giving the

track a funky looking "s" shape. As a result I bought this ball as

a dry lane ball, on the recommendation of the Pro shop owner at Java

Lanes in Long Beach (Tommy Underwood).

My requirements were that the ball be essentially straight, with

enough hook (on dry lanes)to hit the pocket at a good angle. The ball

was label drilled. To my surprise I found that the ball hooked more

than I expected, and liked the outside line. Infact when I set up at

the 15 board, laying the ball down on 6, it came back to the pocket

nicely, and on my second full game with the ball rolled a 225 in

medium to dry conditions. I would hesitate to use the ball in truly

medium to wet conditions (that's why I have an HPH), except for spares

but I really like the ball, and for the price ($90) consider the ball to

have been a real bargain. One review I read said the ball hit like a

marshmallow. Now I don't roll hard, and I do stroke the ball with

moderate rotation, but I found the impact to be solid clearing the

deck on a good line. If it is a marshmallow, I wouldn't want to try

to take a bite out of it. Of note is that the owner of the Proshop at

South Bay Bowl, Mike Wahl, also spoke well of the ball for dry

lanes and right side (for a right hander) spares.

Kelly Beasley

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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2000, 01:59:35 AM »
Great ball. This is an every tournament players ball.  When it's late and your eyes are well inside your feet this is the ball to have on your hand.  I used to love to use Pearl Beasts deep inside, but this ball is even better.  This ball is a lot more agressive and hits a lot stronger than the previous balls in Columbia's weaker category such as the Shadow/R.  The addition of the "puck" in the middle of the ball has made me a very happy late shift bowler.  If your tired of fighting the hooking heads put one of these in your hands.  It's also very good on the pocket book.  

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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2001, 11:53:50 PM »
Look at my profile for info on my game.
I got a black/red scout recently and drilled it up with the pin above the ring finger, with the Cg kicked to the left almost on the center-grip-line.  even with this mild drilling, the ball makes a left turn after a lenghty travel to the pins.  great for shot heads and carrydown.  on a lot of head oil, however, it often doesn't have time to react.  never the less, a great ball, escpecially for the price.
on a 1-10, easily an 8.
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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2001, 02:34:37 PM »
Dollar for dollar the best ball on market. I have yet to use it on heavy oil, but being a pearl ball I wouldn't expect much out of it.  It gets through the heads easily, but if the backs are screaming, this thing will turn as hard as any other pearl reactive.  The Scout Reactive hits hard, yet keeps the pins low to the deck for great carry.  I threw an out of the box 260 on medium conditions. I used a label drilling with an agressive pin placement and would have to recommend this ball for medium lanes.  If they are bone dry this ball still does too much.  For the price, I am considering buying another one or two to play around with drilling patterns.  I've only had it a couple weeks, but already it's the first out of the bag.
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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2001, 11:07:36 PM »
SCOUT REACTIVE (BLACK AND RED)

WOOD LANES HEAVY OIL 17 TO 17 BLENDED 16 OUT.

PIN IS ABOUT 1 1/2 INCHES FROM CG.

Ball is drilled with the pin directly under the ring finger.  I picked this one up for my dry lane arsenal and possibly a spare ball.  No regrets about this purchase.  I've only used it once but I shot fairly well with it today on the condition mentioned above.  FOR A 3 PIECE BALL, THIS BALL RIPS ON THE BACKEND!!!I had to slow my ball speed and crank it just a little bit and I was able to  play a similar line to the one I was using with my Rock Star.  Left a few flat 10 pins, but hey no ball is perfect and for $70 you can't go wrong.  Regarding my ten pins, this ball held well on the corner pins.  Still may opt to pick them up with my white dot but I think I should be okay picking them up with the Scout on most conditions.  Overall, decent ball from Columbia.  Great for light to med. oil.  No rating yet, I'll do that when I take it to a JBT tournament or League Play.  Thanks for your time!


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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2001, 11:52:06 AM »
see my profile for specs on my game

pin 3.5 top 3.25 gross 15.2 before drilling.
drilled 4.25 x 4.25 with small weight hole 2 inches beyond val.
factory polish removed taken up to 2500 wet sand with white 3m
polishing compound finish.

primarily drilled up for shorter patterns in scratch trios league
bowled on sports conditions.

this ball may be low in price but it is high in performance.
this ball gives me very good length to the break point with a nice
hard arc to the pocket. carry is very good.....
when used on patterns with more oil i am able to move left and
this ball will carry on anything but a flood.

in my opinion the best ball columbia has produced since the original
black u-dot.

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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2001, 05:45:37 PM »
I started bowling a little over a year now and my first ball was the white dot, but when I went reactive, I got the Columbia Scout. It is a great ball. My average improved 31+ pins over the summer. It works best on dryer lanes.

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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2001, 09:50:00 PM »
Specs:
3" pin
2 1/2 oz. TW

Drill specs:
4 1/2 X 6 (pin next to ring finger)
1/2 negative side
Box finish

One of our big handed customers was looking for a solution for extremely dry backends.  He has a Solid Beast shined to the hilt with the pin over the bridge...good length but too much the last 15 feet.

This drill matched up perfectly as a compliment to the already mentioned Beast.  The pearlized cover allowed for a bit more length, but the mellow layout resulted in a smooth reaction, even on the dryest of backends.

This is an excellent entry-level ball for anyone looking for their first resin equipment.  This would also be an excellent arsenal ball for anyone bowling on burnt heads or flying backends.
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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2001, 11:53:16 AM »
The Scout/R is a very popular ball in my area. I'm willing to call it an adequate ball for light oil to little-bit-dry conditions. It is best on a fresh house shot and a poor second choice to polished urethane to play inside on a reverse block. My opinion is that there are probably better choices, even in the same price range, for your mildest resin ball. When I have it to do over again, I'll move to a Too Hot in a length drilling instead.

My Scout is a 16# Red/Black, 5 x 4, pin in the ring finger, a tiny weight hole to bring it to 1/4 oz positive. In this configuration, it is a very long ball with a surprisingly strong backend reaction. Mechanically, I have to watch my speed to avoid throwing it through the breakpoint.

The Scout/R is a stronger ball than the spec sheets indicate. From the low differential, you would think it had no flare. In reality, give it just a hint of dry to catch on, and it can turn the corner and cover 10 - 12 boards with no problem. From a 3-piece with nothing but an offset puck, you would expect a fluffy hit. Mine carries quite well from its preferred angle, which is down the boards on the outside.  

On a house shot, I just throw it hard and turn it up around 7 - 8; it stores energy really well and all it needs is a little bit of dry to turn the corner. Basically, I'm calling it a mediocre ball here, yet I've thrown some very good series this year with the Scout/R under just these conditions, and I'm not sure I would've done better with anything else.

On a reverse block, I try to walk it down the tightrope on the inside, and, even from this angle it has enough energy to hit the pocket fairly well. A polished urethane ball with a strong core is, in my opinion, a better solution to this problem.

Scout is not much good on medium or heavier oil. Mine seems to like it best when it is played down and in or at most with a 2 - 3 board swing. Therefore, it is a good complement to a ball in the Messenger line, which seems to like being swung out. Finally, like many pearl resins, it can get jumpy in spotty/carrydown conditions. I really have to watch my speed to avoid throwing it through the breakpoint.

My overall review rating of 7 is composed of:

Control: 8. It's about as long as resin gets, can serve as a decent spare ball. More backend than you'd expect. Speed-sensitive.  

Versatility: 7. Not much good for me outside dry/light oil conditions. Really wants to be played down and in. Likes clean backends.

Hit & Carry: 7. It's adequate to good from its preferred angle, that's the limit of what I can say. Not really enough core for a deep inside line. Since this is the same coverstock as the Ti Messenger Pearl, it goes to show you how important the core is.
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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2002, 10:47:30 AM »
liked the jade scout reactive i drilled up so much
(got me my first pba regional check!!!) that i drilled
up a red/black scout reactive.

starting specs
gross 15.2
top 2.75
pin 3

drilled 4.24 X 4.25 as with the jade.
on red/black pin 1 inch above mid line cg 2 inches below mid
line and slightly left of pin. large weight hole on val just
about even with thumb hole. this ball has a bit earlier break
point and a more roll type reaction but is still easy to stay
in pocket. this ball will come out before the jade...and when it
becomes too early or strong....the jade will be a good next grab
out of the bag.
i wish they would do the pancake/puck configuration with the
urethane scout and also do a light particle load version.....

i give this ball a 10 for med/dry to dry/dry conditions.

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Re: Scout Reactive
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2002, 12:05:14 PM »
scout/r black/red pearl 15lb 2.5 oz top pin 2-3" drilled stacked pin above fingers cg shifted 1/2" to the right of grip center line. I got this ball for dry lanes what a mistake. this ball needs oil. on a 10 to 10 house shot oiled 40' with clean backends this ball will scream left in the mid lane as soon as it hits a dry board. colubia underated  the hook potential on this ball it hooks like my intensity just not the carry of my intensity. changed the surface polished to 3000 with paper and polish and it still hooked quit abit so after 3 games I gave it away to a friend of mine. entry level bowlers ball or something to play with not a dry lane ball...
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