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Title: Scout Reactive
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
The Scout Reactives have Columbia's Super-Flex Reactive Urethane coverstock. Columbia began with the same core as the Shadow/R. An offset heavy puck below the center of the ball is added inside the three-piece core. This puck creates pin out and medium differential Rg. This is the first three-piece Columbia ball with built-in track flare. It gets down the lane easily with good backend turn. The Scout Reactives have a hook rating of 13. They come in weights of 10-16 lbs. Hardness: 75-78.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Paul Meyer on April 19, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
I drilled the Black/Red Reactive with a simple over the label w/pin below the ring finger.  I used it tonight on a rather difficult shot were basically the only option was a straighter line.  The Scout cleared the head with ease but did make an impressive roll in the back with just enough flip to hit and be predictable at the same time.  For the price this is going to be a ball that every bowler should carry with them if nothing else than to have a ball to go to when the lanes require more of a track shot.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Dwight Albrecht on July 20, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
Thanks to Danny Speranza from Columbia for his Knowledge and support. I again had Roxanne George test this ball for me. Roxanne is one of Wisconsin's finest Lady Bowlers. She has a carbon copy physical game to the Touring Pro, "Kim Adler". So watch out Kim!!

This Shiny Dark Purple/Black Reactive has a modified three piece design with a Offset Mass Bias Puck towards the center of the core to control the break point. I personally think this is a wonderful idea and can really allow the Pro Shop Operator to have contol over the Ball's Motion. The only thing I don't like that I wish Columbia would do is "Mark" the mass bias with some sort of logo. To locate the mass bias I drew a line from the pin through the center of gravity 6 3/4 down to locate the spot. Without a "Free Spinner" to accurately locate the mass bias spot, this was the only way.

I set this ball up to go longer and arc even on the backends compared to her current equipment. I drilled this ball with the pin 4 1/2 inches from her PAP and set the mass bias line at a 110 degree arc from her PAP. The ball rolled truly like I thought. Good length, rev'd later, and arc'd hard but predictable on the last 15 feet.

This ball hits very hard and kept the pins very low for good carry. It proved to me that you don't need a Big Core to strike, just get it to the pocket which Roxanne has no problem doing.

If you are looking for a ball for medium to dry conditions with "Big Time" hit consider this ball, for the money it's a winner. Thank you Roxanne for testing this ball for me and also Thank you Danny Speranza from Columbia. I appreciate you reading my review.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Bob Hanson on September 28, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
I drilled this one up as an experiment to add to my dry lane arsenal.  This was a pin in ball and I stacked the pin and cg in the grip line for about a 4 3/4 stack.  My first impression of the ball was that it brought back memories of using a brand new yellow dot in the 70's.  That probably shouldn't come as a complete surprise since the 3 piece, high rg pancake weight block construction is reminiscent of early Columbia balls.  For you guys with some hand this ball could be an excellent option on a fairly wide variety of hooking conditions.  For lower rev strokers like myself it is going to be even more condition specific, requiring not just dry but a certain type of dry pattern. For example my first use was in the 4th game of a late league on older synthetics that have a very long oil pattern but are notorious for the track burning out between 10 and 15 board.  On one lane I was able to go fairly direct up 12 board and got a nice reaction in the pocket.  On the other lane the Scout wanted to hook early and set up on the nose until I got to third arrow.  From third I could get decent recovery when I swung it, but there was no way it was going to carry half pocket.  Again I am a low rev stroker.  I could picture a guy with some hand playing the same angle and getting pretty good pop in the pocket.  This ball is typical of many dry lane balls in that it will out hook its revs for me.  By that I mean it loses its optimum axis tilt ( not quite to the point of hooking out ) before it hits the pocket when I have to swing it out very much.  

For myself this could be a decent option on some conditions where I need to play outside 10 even though the shot is torched.  It is not going to be a "go to" dry lane ball every time the shot burns out and I can't play at 20 anymore.  I just don't have the hand to get this old high rg core to hit from there on todays high viscosity oil.  
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Ed Ford on October 19, 2000, 02:00:00 AM
Recently ran into lane conditions that made the Sahara Desert look

like a Rainforest. The ball would flip, setup, then roll giving the

track a funky looking "s" shape. As a result I bought this ball as

a dry lane ball, on the recommendation of the Pro shop owner at Java

Lanes in Long Beach (Tommy Underwood).

My requirements were that the ball be essentially straight, with

enough hook (on dry lanes)to hit the pocket at a good angle. The ball

was label drilled. To my surprise I found that the ball hooked more

than I expected, and liked the outside line. Infact when I set up at

the 15 board, laying the ball down on 6, it came back to the pocket

nicely, and on my second full game with the ball rolled a 225 in

medium to dry conditions. I would hesitate to use the ball in truly

medium to wet conditions (that's why I have an HPH), except for spares

but I really like the ball, and for the price ($90) consider the ball to

have been a real bargain. One review I read said the ball hit like a

marshmallow. Now I don't roll hard, and I do stroke the ball with

moderate rotation, but I found the impact to be solid clearing the

deck on a good line. If it is a marshmallow, I wouldn't want to try

to take a bite out of it. Of note is that the owner of the Proshop at

South Bay Bowl, Mike Wahl, also spoke well of the ball for dry

lanes and right side (for a right hander) spares.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Kelly Beasley on December 06, 2000, 01:59:35 AM
Great ball. This is an every tournament players ball.  When it's late and your eyes are well inside your feet this is the ball to have on your hand.  I used to love to use Pearl Beasts deep inside, but this ball is even better.  This ball is a lot more agressive and hits a lot stronger than the previous balls in Columbia's weaker category such as the Shadow/R.  The addition of the "puck" in the middle of the ball has made me a very happy late shift bowler.  If your tired of fighting the hooking heads put one of these in your hands.  It's also very good on the pocket book.  
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: abowlerguy on April 17, 2001, 11:53:50 PM
Look at my profile for info on my game.
I got a black/red scout recently and drilled it up with the pin above the ring finger, with the Cg kicked to the left almost on the center-grip-line.  even with this mild drilling, the ball makes a left turn after a lenghty travel to the pins.  great for shot heads and carrydown.  on a lot of head oil, however, it often doesn't have time to react.  never the less, a great ball, escpecially for the price.
on a 1-10, easily an 8.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: O on August 10, 2001, 02:34:37 PM
Dollar for dollar the best ball on market. I have yet to use it on heavy oil, but being a pearl ball I wouldn't expect much out of it.  It gets through the heads easily, but if the backs are screaming, this thing will turn as hard as any other pearl reactive.  The Scout Reactive hits hard, yet keeps the pins low to the deck for great carry.  I threw an out of the box 260 on medium conditions. I used a label drilling with an agressive pin placement and would have to recommend this ball for medium lanes.  If they are bone dry this ball still does too much.  For the price, I am considering buying another one or two to play around with drilling patterns.  I've only had it a couple weeks, but already it's the first out of the bag.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: ColumbiaBowler on August 16, 2001, 11:07:36 PM
SCOUT REACTIVE (BLACK AND RED)

WOOD LANES HEAVY OIL 17 TO 17 BLENDED 16 OUT.

PIN IS ABOUT 1 1/2 INCHES FROM CG.

Ball is drilled with the pin directly under the ring finger.  I picked this one up for my dry lane arsenal and possibly a spare ball.  No regrets about this purchase.  I've only used it once but I shot fairly well with it today on the condition mentioned above.  FOR A 3 PIECE BALL, THIS BALL RIPS ON THE BACKEND!!!I had to slow my ball speed and crank it just a little bit and I was able to  play a similar line to the one I was using with my Rock Star.  Left a few flat 10 pins, but hey no ball is perfect and for $70 you can't go wrong.  Regarding my ten pins, this ball held well on the corner pins.  Still may opt to pick them up with my white dot but I think I should be okay picking them up with the Scout on most conditions.  Overall, decent ball from Columbia.  Great for light to med. oil.  No rating yet, I'll do that when I take it to a JBT tournament or League Play.  Thanks for your time!

Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: gene riley on September 27, 2001, 11:52:06 AM
see my profile for specs on my game

pin 3.5 top 3.25 gross 15.2 before drilling.
drilled 4.25 x 4.25 with small weight hole 2 inches beyond val.
factory polish removed taken up to 2500 wet sand with white 3m
polishing compound finish.

primarily drilled up for shorter patterns in scratch trios league
bowled on sports conditions.

this ball may be low in price but it is high in performance.
this ball gives me very good length to the break point with a nice
hard arc to the pocket. carry is very good.....
when used on patterns with more oil i am able to move left and
this ball will carry on anything but a flood.

in my opinion the best ball columbia has produced since the original
black u-dot.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Justin Garrett on December 15, 2001, 05:45:37 PM
I started bowling a little over a year now and my first ball was the white dot, but when I went reactive, I got the Columbia Scout. It is a great ball. My average improved 31+ pins over the summer. It works best on dryer lanes.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Mongo on December 19, 2001, 09:50:00 PM
Specs:
3" pin
2 1/2 oz. TW

Drill specs:
4 1/2 X 6 (pin next to ring finger)
1/2 negative side
Box finish

One of our big handed customers was looking for a solution for extremely dry backends.  He has a Solid Beast shined to the hilt with the pin over the bridge...good length but too much the last 15 feet.

This drill matched up perfectly as a compliment to the already mentioned Beast.  The pearlized cover allowed for a bit more length, but the mellow layout resulted in a smooth reaction, even on the dryest of backends.

This is an excellent entry-level ball for anyone looking for their first resin equipment.  This would also be an excellent arsenal ball for anyone bowling on burnt heads or flying backends.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: BrianN on December 23, 2001, 11:53:16 AM
The Scout/R is a very popular ball in my area. I'm willing to call it an adequate ball for light oil to little-bit-dry conditions. It is best on a fresh house shot and a poor second choice to polished urethane to play inside on a reverse block. My opinion is that there are probably better choices, even in the same price range, for your mildest resin ball. When I have it to do over again, I'll move to a Too Hot in a length drilling instead.

My Scout is a 16# Red/Black, 5 x 4, pin in the ring finger, a tiny weight hole to bring it to 1/4 oz positive. In this configuration, it is a very long ball with a surprisingly strong backend reaction. Mechanically, I have to watch my speed to avoid throwing it through the breakpoint.

The Scout/R is a stronger ball than the spec sheets indicate. From the low differential, you would think it had no flare. In reality, give it just a hint of dry to catch on, and it can turn the corner and cover 10 - 12 boards with no problem. From a 3-piece with nothing but an offset puck, you would expect a fluffy hit. Mine carries quite well from its preferred angle, which is down the boards on the outside.  

On a house shot, I just throw it hard and turn it up around 7 - 8; it stores energy really well and all it needs is a little bit of dry to turn the corner. Basically, I'm calling it a mediocre ball here, yet I've thrown some very good series this year with the Scout/R under just these conditions, and I'm not sure I would've done better with anything else.

On a reverse block, I try to walk it down the tightrope on the inside, and, even from this angle it has enough energy to hit the pocket fairly well. A polished urethane ball with a strong core is, in my opinion, a better solution to this problem.

Scout is not much good on medium or heavier oil. Mine seems to like it best when it is played down and in or at most with a 2 - 3 board swing. Therefore, it is a good complement to a ball in the Messenger line, which seems to like being swung out. Finally, like many pearl resins, it can get jumpy in spotty/carrydown conditions. I really have to watch my speed to avoid throwing it through the breakpoint.

My overall review rating of 7 is composed of:

Control: 8. It's about as long as resin gets, can serve as a decent spare ball. More backend than you'd expect. Speed-sensitive.  

Versatility: 7. Not much good for me outside dry/light oil conditions. Really wants to be played down and in. Likes clean backends.

Hit & Carry: 7. It's adequate to good from its preferred angle, that's the limit of what I can say. Not really enough core for a deep inside line. Since this is the same coverstock as the Ti Messenger Pearl, it goes to show you how important the core is.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: gene riley on March 02, 2002, 10:47:30 AM
liked the jade scout reactive i drilled up so much
(got me my first pba regional check!!!) that i drilled
up a red/black scout reactive.

starting specs
gross 15.2
top 2.75
pin 3

drilled 4.24 X 4.25 as with the jade.
on red/black pin 1 inch above mid line cg 2 inches below mid
line and slightly left of pin. large weight hole on val just
about even with thumb hole. this ball has a bit earlier break
point and a more roll type reaction but is still easy to stay
in pocket. this ball will come out before the jade...and when it
becomes too early or strong....the jade will be a good next grab
out of the bag.
i wish they would do the pancake/puck configuration with the
urethane scout and also do a light particle load version.....

i give this ball a 10 for med/dry to dry/dry conditions.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: robert mushtare on March 05, 2002, 12:05:14 PM
scout/r black/red pearl 15lb 2.5 oz top pin 2-3" drilled stacked pin above fingers cg shifted 1/2" to the right of grip center line. I got this ball for dry lanes what a mistake. this ball needs oil. on a 10 to 10 house shot oiled 40' with clean backends this ball will scream left in the mid lane as soon as it hits a dry board. colubia underated  the hook potential on this ball it hooks like my intensity just not the carry of my intensity. changed the surface polished to 3000 with paper and polish and it still hooked quit abit so after 3 games I gave it away to a friend of mine. entry level bowlers ball or something to play with not a dry lane ball...
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Greatness on March 06, 2002, 06:27:09 PM
I picked this ball up for a broken down shot and had it drilled with the pin under the ring finger.  I found this ball to be very condition sensative on a fresh league shot.  It needs head oil because if there isnt, the ball ball seems to burn up in the heads and loose most of its hitting power.  But it also needs a little carrydown, if it doesnt have it, the ball takes off inconsistently once it finds a dry board.  So basically the ball sucked for my league shot.

Then i took it out for pot bowling after work which i bought it for.
The 7 to 7 to 45' league shot was slighty toasted but still a little head oil and a little carrydown.  This is the condition i bought it for and it works great.  Glide, arc, and crush.  More than paid for the ball the first night.

Greatness
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: GaryT on March 10, 2002, 04:25:20 AM
I bought my Scout for dry lane conditions. One of my leagues
is 9 o'clock on Friday night. The lanes are extremely dry, because
in most centers the lanes are dressed in the morning. And with open
play, and one leagues before us the lanes are burn-out. I read others
reviews on the Scout, I think most of them are off the mark. The
secret to the Scout is to go down in weight. I have been bowling
with 16lb balls for the last 15 years. I was having serious trouble
on Friday nights. I went from a 207 average to a 170 in a matter
of months, granted I moved to a new state and center. My Scout is
leverage drilled. This is the smoothest ball Columbia every made.
 I play deep inside, anywhere from the 25 to 39 board, I have the
perfect combination of hand and speed. I have more hand than the
average bowler and average speed. This ball is under rated on hook
potential, but if you LAY it down and don't loft, you will be the
baddest man in the house on dry conditions. Now on carry down, don't
use the Scout unless you are a surgeon, you have to hit your mark
every time, there is no room for error. This is one the best value in
bowling balls. With all balls they are lane specific, but balls are
 bowlers specific also. Remember, if you can read the lanes throughout
match play, you will never blame a ball. Those who cannot read, blame
everything but themselves. A ball is a tool, use the right tool for the
job.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: brimar on March 11, 2002, 02:54:13 PM
Im a lefty full roller who throws around 17-18mph. I bought this ball for VERY dry conditions and was i shocked when this ball hooked and it hooks.the ball has a 3inch pin with 3.34 of top weight drilled for a medium-dry condition according to columbia's drill sheet.

With the right conditions this ball is great. But it needs some oil in the heads otherwise it catches it roll way to soon, with some carry down it wont come back.

Now for the good things, It is a very consistant ball. Its a hell of a ball for $75. Packs plenty of hitting power for a 3 piece ball.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: bowling god 1981 on March 16, 2002, 08:42:51 PM
This is Kevin gf and he is buying this bowling ball  for me tomorrow.
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Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: jjdodge98 on April 19, 2002, 03:09:44 PM
I am a fairly new bowler (leagues for almost 2 years) and this ball was recommmended to me when I began...I have it drilled to go long and rely on the backend...it is GREAT for dry conditions but if there is any sign of medium to heavy oil the ball does not have very much carry...it is great though for the second shift league that I bowl in
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Messenger Ti on April 30, 2002, 10:56:32 AM
Good ball hit fairly good with a dry lane, don't even try it on oily. It will go far far far far and never come back.



 " IF YOU WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE, SEND IT WITH THE MESSENGER!!!"
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: gtucker1217 on July 19, 2002, 11:10:58 AM
I like everything about the ball. The ARC is consistant through the heads and is very easy to control. The backend flip isn't real sharp but good enough. I threw a 233 right out of the box.

I recommend this to anyone. I throw the ball with a lot a revs and the ball didn't over react. This ball is the perfect compliment to those wishing to add something to their arsenal that will adapt to the any lane condition. I drilled the ball with the standard recomendations and what I got was a superb performer all night.

This ball is a lot more agressive and hits a lot stronger than it is given credit for. I would hesitate to use the ball in medium to oily conditions. This ball was recommended to me by a friend who suggested that it would compliment my style and approach. Needless to say I thank him regularly.


Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Bowling King on September 04, 2002, 09:08:57 AM
This is one nice ball for the $. Drilled for finger-tip. I've only been bowling for 2 years. I bowl 1 night a week and my average was 186 at the end of the fall league. I recently bowled a 290 with this ball. In fact of 19 balls thrown, I threw 18 strikes. I don't throw all that hard, but when I lift correctly and this ball gets near the pocket, it delivers with bad intentions.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: LuckyLefty on September 17, 2002, 09:34:10 AM
I believe balls at the extremes oily or dry are the toughest to get just right!!

So it is with this dry lane ball segment.

This scout reactive green pearl has a 3 inch pin out and about 2 1/2 ounces of top weight to start.

Me lefty, medium speed and revs 15mph speed (at rack) revs about 300 rpm.

This ball is drilled strong pin to pap 3 3/4 cg to pap 4 3/4.  Leaving about 2/3 of an ounce side weight and just under one ounce of top weight.  No weighthole.
A 3 3/4 X 5.

Drilled this way as I had drilled other weak stuff of similar design weaker it was a tad long so I wanted this a little earlier and more even, less pure backend.  This is a ball to slot in behind my long and strong battle zone bullet
I want just as long with a little less pure flip!

This fits the bill perfectly the way I have it setup.  It can be played straight up the boards on a light beat up pattern just at the same time I am swinging the bz bullet 14 to 10.  Lots of clean skid in the front and then a smooth strong rounded recovery that carries great for a ball of these modest specs.

I've seen a lot of others getting either no hook(weaker handed drilled in the grip center area) or an incredible long with skid snap when the stronger handed drills near the ring finger area.  I like the way I did it best.  Drill these weak balls strong and maybe they can not be used on extreme dry but this way it gets away a little from extreme length(too much length) and too much jumpiness at the back.

During this test, I compared to a Too Hot(drilled weaker) more hit and more jumpy than Scout, Messenger Black(Black had 4 boards less move at the back and very controllable), Monster Scream/r (Scream/r 5 feet earlier and sharper backend, and a Storm Blue Hot drilled in the label(weakest but hard hitting on really dry), and the BZ Bullet described above.

I still believe that the Dynamic groove is the king of this class(I like Brunswick's pearl coverstocks better) but the one I had I drilled just a TAd too weak a pin position.

Final thoughts.  To even these super high rg balls(pancake with puck) out either drill a stronger pin than your medium stuff, or follow Columbia's drill
sheet and drill cg down slightly for a little earlier start too!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS  I'm not sure if I'm excited about the Power Groove over the dynamic groove as they have added a stronger coverstock on Power Groove (who needs that for dry).
PSS I really like my weaker drilled revolution vengeance in this slot too!  I am not releasing it as well but once I tweak feel to match this scout I will do a comparison.  Right now Scout in the bag!
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Jesse James on January 23, 2003, 03:36:25 PM
I've had this ball forever, it seems yet never did a review on it. I got it for a very competitive mixed league I was in, where I could shoot 278, or even 290 and still get beat out, for the pot.

Ball is 15#er, 2"pin with about 1-1/2 oz of topweight. Drilled it label leverage
at 2:00, with pin and cg in my palm.

House is all synthetics, with very lite oil that always disappears by the third game. They do vary using long oil or short from time to time but always lite.

Got it specifically for the third game. I'd play down and in and the ball hit extremely hard. Even with a small swing, came back extremely hard, sometimes leaving impossible splits. I was shooting 10-5 and back.

Moved inside,standing 25, shooting to 8 with moderate speed, this thing had length like I couldn't believe, and just when I was about to give up and figure I'd hit the OB, here it comes......roaring back!!!Wham!!!! But it still hit too
hard. Left a lot of ten-pins.

Problem solved. No move needed. Set the ball down early, two feet early in fact. Let it use up a little energy, and WHAM! Back in business. I already know it's COMING BACK...so get myself lined up and this thing HITS!

Inexpensive ball, great for dry conditions. Seems to come back from anywhere.
Great length, and controllable if you have patience with it. Definitely a keeper for me. (Oh yeah, I was  actually able to crank it also)
Good job, Columbia.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: striker200 on July 03, 2003, 07:04:45 PM
This is a good ball for how much you pay for it. You are really getting the bang for the buck with this ball. It is made for dry lanes, but for me it didn't just work on dry it worked on oil too.

On dry lanes i stood 30 to 10 and WHAM, the pins were gone.
On medium oiled lanes i stand around 13 out to 5 and BOOM strike.

What i like about this ball is it gives you good length and a lot of backend, so i never have to worry about this ball not coming back, except maybe if i get it out to the OB. I have struck on several occasions from going threw the nose. Thats hitting power for you.

You just really have to take time to figure this ball out, but once you do it will be a really good ball to go to if you don't have a clue what to do with any other ball. I have recently shot 217 with this ball, thats my personal best. I always use this ball when my wow pearl is hooking wayyy too much and when i use this ball it just works really well for me. This ball really dont have much of a core but it hooks and hits real good for me. This ball carrys better than i thought it would. It seems like almost every shot that hits the pocket the pins arent there anymore. This is a great 3rd game ball and for a begginer like myself.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: topbowlinlyricist on July 07, 2003, 05:33:57 AM
(the green one)
pin directly right of ring finger, and cg out 1in. from center of grip.

not the biggest hooking ball, but it gets the job done.  this is a multipurpose ball, i can use it on just about any lane condition.  i've played it up 1st arrow, and out across 5th.  for the price, you can't get a better ball.
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got you convinced someone's using voodoo...on you
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Kathleen on July 24, 2003, 05:05:10 AM
I have always been a straight-ball bowler untill I moved up to the Scout. I purchased my scout over a year ago and have been extremely happy with it. I was having trouble with my hand and had to have it redrilled x 3. It has always reacted well. It prefers medium to light oil but with adjustments can handle heavy oil also.
If going to a straight ball to a curve I would recommend the Scout as your first ball.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: krislacson on July 28, 2003, 05:29:57 AM
I just started bowling a little more seriously lately and i picked up this ball on friday.  i just got my personal best today of a 174.  i usually just barely break 100 when i used to bowl.  im still having a hard time trying to hook the ball, so as of right now i just aim for a spot between the 1, 2/3 and let it fly.  when the ball hits the pins those things fly!  well..this is compared to a house ball.  but so far i like this ball a lot, and im still getting used to it since im starting out like i said before.  anybody have any tips on how to hook?
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Zack Pelton on July 28, 2003, 07:44:28 PM
Columbia 300: Blue/Gold perlized Scout
Pin: 2-3"
Topweight:2.55oz
Weight: 15.45lb
Surface: Took it from 600 to 1000 than polished it with Ebonite Factory Polish than with Ebonite Extender Polish.
Drill: Pin above middle finger, and cg under ring finger. No weight hole.

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Overall

Overall the ball reaction is really smooth. It is a versatile ball I can stay behind it and play up the boards easy, or I can get around and make it have a little bit snapper backend. This ball does not hit the greatest, but the core has allot to do with that. However, it does not have the hitting power but it does keep the pins low when you are having trouble with the pins shooting up. I have ran into some lanes were the heads were burned but it did not seem to effect the reaction at all. However, when I stay under the ball it reacts early when there is a dry patch in the middle of the lane.

Sport shots

This ball did not react well when I played more up the boards, because you had to be real accurate on both sides of your mark. In general when there is a few boards room this ball works great swing the middle part of the lane (out to about 10-12 board). Usually this ball is better on shorter patterns for the obvious reasons. I have ran into many sport conditions in the past month that I have used this ball exclusivly.

Pro's

This ball gets through the lanes and is very controlable.

Con's

Sometimes this is the only ball I can get through the lane and it doesn't have enough to get back to the pocket because of carrydown.
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Bowl to Win!!!
Zack Pelton
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: NoNeed4Revs on September 11, 2003, 06:35:01 AM
Just picked up a blue/gold for dry lanes. I wanted something that hooked less than my Monster Smash/R, but still had a decent backend recovery. Drilled it for length, pin over the bridge and CG under the ring finger.

Tested out this ball after the evening league, giving me a chance to see how it would react on a typical broken down shot. The first couple of shots it tended to just sort of arc and not too much, but after getting comfortable with the feel and putting some hand in it, I was quite impressed. The Scout seems to go longer than anything else in my bag, but still recover nicely on the backend. It is exactly what I bought it for, a ball for drier lanes, but it does give you a little area to miss outside. Furthermore, it hits every bit as hard as my Icon or Monster. I actually imagine that this could be a great benchmark ball with a slightly more aggressive drilling.

A couple years ago I had tried a Reactive Flame looking for the same sort of dry lane ball, and I was greatly disappointed. As my first venture back into three-piece equipment since, the blue/gold Scout has renewed my faith in less expensive equipment.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: tonygee on October 07, 2003, 06:24:19 PM
[me]Can't find the pocket, its a jungle in here, get me a scout...
[scout/r]"duh, i'm ball scout junior class duh may i help you cross the pocket, d'uh i mean street, duhh"  
[me]I can't hit the pocket do you know the way?  
[scout/r]D'uhhh, wait let me take out my GPS system, d'uh it says here 60 ft 20th board...??? What does that mean???"  

That's my Green Scout/R; over/under, inside/out, backward/forward

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Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: albertsjj on October 29, 2003, 11:53:48 AM
I pick up this ball because I could not hit the pocket with my Raging Red. Was throwing over center arrow kicking out to the one broad and kept coming in Brooklyn. I had the Reactive Scout (green) drill for length and right over center.  The Scout works great for these old wood lanes with little to medium oil. Shot carries the lane and comes in strong in the backend.  Leaves a few ten pins but all in all good dry or wood lane ball.

Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: johndoe on February 03, 2004, 09:02:19 PM
An amazing ball... I started out in my YABA league in Jan. 2003. I was bowling with a plastic ebonite ball My average was a 108 by the end of the season and I was not in good shape. My coach told me to get a 10 pound Scout ball, and it was the best move I ever did. My average went from a 108 to a 151 I'm really happy with the Scout ball. I recommend it to anyone who is starting out.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: bananapie on February 07, 2004, 01:40:14 PM
Started bowling seriously a few months ago ( i was using a plastic Columbia ball with an average of 122 ) then i was thinkin i needed something more Better , so i went for the Columbia Scout Reactive. This ball is great ! Doesn't really overhook ( works great on dry lane conditions ) pretty well on oily lanes too. My average went up to 166 after getting this ball ! Best score with it - 236
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Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: davecarnie14 on February 22, 2004, 11:43:12 PM
i got this ball after i started bowling and moved up from two-finger white dot to this.  i averaged about 175 with it, but did throw a 300 with it. good ball in dry conditions, however, when the lanes were oily, i felt like i was throwing my white dot again
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: bamjackassbowl57 on March 03, 2004, 12:20:20 PM
I got this ball a couple months ago and I average a 155 with, and I bowled a 265 with it so thats pretty cool.  Although when the lanes are oily the ball does not hit the pocket as well when its on dry lanes.  When there is dry lanes that ball will hook, and maybe thats only cuz i put a lot of revs on my ball.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: And1_headach on March 11, 2004, 10:02:36 AM
well you cant really put a huge drilling layout on this... anyways for a starter ball its awsome. good on dry lanes. awsome for the bowler thats starting to make the move from straight to little hook. this was my first ball and i forgot to review it... this ball was my favorite thing in the bag untill i decided to move up to somthing more aggressive. overall for a starting ball 9/10
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Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: louie on April 15, 2004, 01:43:44 AM
This is a 14 pound ball with a 2.5 inch pin. Pin is next to ring finger cg in span. I was looking for a ball that was just a tad stronger than my Sonic X. This ball has a bit more differential. I thought that this ball would get down the lane and cover just a couple more boards than the Sonic x does late. Well the Scout does exactly what I intended it to do in terms of hook shape. Unfortunately, the ball is very sensitive to speed and release changes. I found that the ball magnified my mistakes. (I make PLENTY of mistakes.) I also found that this ball left a lot of single pins on less than perfect hits. It was not confidence inspiring.
This ball is a viable drier lane ball or starter ball, but I feel there are many better balls out there for these needs. I really like the Slate Gargoyle, Barbed Wire or Sonic x for drier lanes. The Power Grooves are great balls for starter or budget bowlers.
The Scout isn't terrible, but you can find many balls at a similar price point that vastly out performs it.
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Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: BowlingBill on April 18, 2004, 09:46:58 AM
This is my first season bowling in 30 yrs. I was using an OLD black Hammer and averaging about 150 on the synthetic lanes at the Local house. Decided to buy me a new ball for Christmas, so grabbed a green pearl Scout-R. Since then I've raised my avg. to 168 and this past Friday rolled a 204-203-257... 664 series and qualified for 2 achievment awards for 250 game w/170 or less avg. and 150 Pins over avg..  It's Very forgiving on light hits, and gets great pin action. I throw pretty much the same line no matter the conditions, and just adjust ball speed to get it to the pocket. The Scout-R works great for the money it cost. I'm very satisfied with it.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: BowlingBill on April 24, 2004, 09:44:14 AM
Following up to my previous post on the Scout-R, Last night(4/23) was the last night of the season in our Mixed 4-some league. It went out with a bang, sort of. The series started out poorly with a 152. I had sweated the oil out of the ball between last week and this week and it was rolling like a different ball, with a lot more snap on the backend and it took me a whole game to get a handle on it. Second Game was a 201, not bad, but the final game, I rolled a 298, leaving the 5-9 on a brooklyn hit on the 12th ball.  Could hardly believe it! Can't say enough good things about my Scout. Had a couple of really light hits that carried and one brooky. With last weeks 664, and this weeks 298 game, I earned 4 Awards in the last 2 weeks of the season, 150 Over Avg.(Series), 250 Game w/170 or less avg., 100 Pins Over Avg.(Game), and 298 Game. A tip o'the Hat to Bill M. at Faxon Lanes, Williamsport, PA. for suggesting the Scout-R. It was a great buy for only $80
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: amflitepinnacle on June 26, 2004, 05:00:02 AM
I recently purchased this ball from my local pro shop and I must say that for being an entry level reactive ball it seems to hit like some of the more agressive types of reactive balss that are currently oput on market.  I have my scoutr Drilled with a 3x3 Stacked leverage drill With a 15/16 weight hole.  on a fresh house shot on wood lanes I ahd no difficutly in being able to swing the ball out to about the 1 board and it would come screaming back and just ripped the pocket. I took this ball out and used it about an hour later at a house with synthetic lanes and was just amazed by the reaction that I got from it as I had games of 208 209 and 234 with it Overall for the price of the ball It is worth every penny
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Mr 725 on September 05, 2004, 08:23:15 PM
well this was my very first bowling ball and it stunk cause it was only 10 pounds but it was still a good ball...my very first average for my first year of bowling was 131 then things started to get better...i kept the same average for awhile and had my first 200 game with it...the ball rolls smotth through the heads but tends to over and under react...good ball though for a beginner!
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Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Rodney Evans on December 08, 2004, 12:54:50 PM
Hey guys/girls...

I strongly advise this ball to anyone whether they are a beginner, or looking at adding a ball to there arsenal to get down the alley.  I've had it for over a year and it hasnt changed a bit.  I just didn't recently find out about this site to post my opinion . Its the black and red scout, I have the ball set with a 2" pin with about 2 oz. of top weight (its 15lbs), and Box Finish.  Pin under my ring finger and CG in middle of span.  

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I'm a righty, about 5'6" 145 lbs..  I have a fairly small hand, but I use it alot, I crank the ball med./high revs but like to keep the ball with as little hook as I can. My starting position with my shoulder width is a 12 board difference ( stand on 12 to hit 5, 17 to hit 10, etc. )

I play this ball usually on dry, as well as spotty/inconsistant lanes because it is very easy to control. I'm a youth league bowler ( don't look down on me for that I carry 2 high averages in 2 houses) and our ally's machine workers are lazy.  We DO NOT get fresh oil for our league on saturday morning. We bowl on left overs from the night before and they have a double shift on Fridays.  I bowl in 2 alleys as well, This particular house has 2 shifts and I bowl the late shift due to my other league.  After no fresh oil, 2 leagues the night before, and bowling the 2nd shift, You MIGHT be able to say they are bone dry !  

At this house I average 207, we are about 1/2 way through the season.  I use this ball most frequently at this house. Here lately I am VERY HAPPY with it.  I stand about 22 and shoot at 15 out to about 10.  It rolls early but very consistant and smooth, its not a huge hook, I am soft with my hand and I dont rip through it like I normally do.  I have several high games including 8 over 250 this season. Including 2 279 games, several 650+ series's and about 3 700 series's. High series being a 735 with a 269, 246, and 220.

People looked down on me for using this ball at first, but it's turned ALOT of heads lately, and 2 other bowlers have went out and bought this ball recently.  I travel alot and bowl in tournaments (jr. gold, scholorship, etc.) and have found its the most consistant ball I have for short with dry back end, and sport conditions too out of my 7 ball arsenal.

GREAT BALL!!!!!  Everyone should try it out if they can. Sorry to write a book!

Later

Rodney Evans (Pres. of Venture Lanes Youth League, St. Albans WV)
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Brunswickbowler298 on April 02, 2005, 04:04:30 PM
hey everyone

I got this ball at the beginning of the bowling season(about 6 months ago) and it wasn't reacting good for a while and i realized that i hadn't baked it in a while and so i did about a week ago and i got all of my reaction back from about 30 min of using a space heater, i would recommend this ball to anyone who needs a ball for light to medium oil. It has good reaction a bit early but it hits the pocket nicely if you get the right speed. I rank this about a 7.0
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: bowling9883 on July 12, 2005, 02:56:51 PM
Drilled up my Scout Reactive fully aggressive with a 3 1/2 in pin from my CG. Tried this on medium-dry lanes with drier heads. Ball worked pretty well as far as back end goes. A little drier than medium is perfect. Goes pretty long and turns nicely. Bowled a 222 my first game with front 3. Fun to bowl with and is going to be great for dry lanes. Can't wait to see. On a drier lane shot I pulled out a 271 which of course this ball did. Great turn in the dry.
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Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Chevyguy on August 26, 2005, 10:10:45 PM
First I am a right handed bowler. This was the first ball I learned with.  It is so versatile that I learned first the straight shot and then a hook with this ball.  When the lanes are lightly oiled I can swing it from the left gutter to the 1 board and back to the 7 pin.  I own a Total Shock and Awe by morich and Columbia's Backyard Bully.  Both balls are not as versatile as the scout reactive.  I agree with everyone that this ball in oil is a glider, however since all my teammates throw on the same line, our line dries up within the second game and I always end up shooting a 200 with this ball in the third game.  I cant wait to get another since the one I have has been beaten up to the point of no return.  This is indeed a good ball for starters but for those bowling in the 190s and rising this is a great ball for those days dry lanes come after you...or if your line dries fairly fast.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: jamesk847 on November 22, 2005, 03:07:50 PM
ok im right handed medium speed medium rev.  i avg 225-230 at 3 different houses well 225 at one, 212 at another and 230 as sub at another.  i got the ball for something to play the outside part of the lane as my other stuff is too aggresive.  and it has served for just that.  it has plent of hit saves its energy and allows me to play outside without over reacting.  good dry lane ball or outside track.  i used it lastnight at millertime, i started with my powerdrive but inside the ball was going to long and when i moved right it jumped threw the face.  so i thought well i just got this ball to go long and play the outside why not try on the fill ball in tenth of first game.  struck.  went on to shoot 255 and 212.  two missed spares the last game.  great dry ball and great outside angle ball.  will not however be a good ball for someone with low revs...  9 out of 10.  oh mine is the cherry silver pearl color..very neat.
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: dthardcore on March 13, 2006, 01:26:04 PM
I have been using the Scout Hi-Flare reactive ball for about 4 months now, at first i was using the ball on a set of dry wood lanes and the ball had a descent reation to the lanes but when i moved to a new house i could not get the ball to move for the life of me. the house i moved to is extemely heavily oiled and the lanes are synthetic, so i went back to my proshop and had them sand the finish off my ball, so now the ball is dull but in heavy oil will now run across the lane without even trying, my ball is drilled pretty straight i do not have an aggressively drilled ball but i can easily say that this is a great ball for beginners and especially a great ball for the price. the only down side to this ball is that it is not a strong hitting ball. thats why i use this as a spare ball and leave the strikes to my more powerful balls such as my scorchin inferno
Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: Angelfire on August 05, 2006, 11:58:36 AM
Got my Scout Hi-Flare drilled 5"x5", pin 2 1/2-3" with the CG slightly above the midline. This ball is 14lb 3oz. with a 3oz. top weight.

First tried it on med/heavy oil with the backends kind of dry. Threw it from my normal line the 12 board to 7 and made it past the head very well and a smooth lenght and backend arc. It didn't snap or flip, just a nice strong arc into the pocket; something I didn't expect since I thought that this was a skid/snap ball.

On the other lane, the pattern was shorter and the backends were much drier. My One ball simply overhooked every other frame so I tried the Scout but on a different line from the other lane I was on. First game this ball just wanted to go left and left the 3,6 pins alot. So I made an adjustment and moved left where I throw my One ball.  Had my feet on the 24 board and went for the 18 board to 11 at breakpoint. This ball will take off strong once it hits dry. I was throwing it nearly 16.5 mph which is faster that normal for me, but I was still able to control it very well. Anywhere past the 11 board it doesn't come back quite as well and some loss in hitting power would result from that.

And this ball will send pins flying everywhere, if I leave any pins left from a pocket shot, it would be the 10 pin a 7 pin every once in a while. But still shot some very good games with it; 177,232,236,164,225.

This would be a good ball to have either on medium oil when the lanes start to dry out, drier backends, and/or on light oil. Just from the 5 games I've used it, I like it already and for a low price, it's a good ball to have.


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Title: Re: Scout Reactive
Post by: jstamour on November 29, 2007, 03:36:48 PM
This ball is a good ball if you are beginning to hook and want a ball that shows you what a reactive ball can do.  I bought a scout from my friend, who upgraded, for 20 bucks after I bowled a 600 series with it.  I had been using an old Track that was left at the house.  Basically, I worsened my game by moving there and after I became a very stagnant 170 bowler.  I have moved on this season and am back to 190.  

The Scout is a good reactive ball with a very unpredictable point of reaction.  IF YOU BOWL WELL WITH THIS BALL, YOU WILL BOWL BETTER WITH A BETTER ONE!!!