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Spirit
« on: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM »
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CORE TECHNOLOGY: 2-Piece Core

COVERSTOCK: Reactive

HARDNESS: 75-78




TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS:

DYNAMIC PROPERTIES

Weight Rg Differential

Rg

16 lb. 2.534 0.041

15 lb. 2.590 0.030

14 lb. 2.660 0.016



Track Flare: 3-5 inches

Color: Liberty Blue with Red and White Engraving

Finish: Polished

Available Weights: 10,11,12,13,14,15,16 lbs



Has the orignal game core with the pro hook coverstock so it gives it a nice smooth reaction

 

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2002, 12:35:47 PM »
*This ball is a Great Ball!

Columbia has a great ball in the Spirit in that its mild reactive cover
stock with the "Tried and Proven" weight block that comes from the
original Black Chao's (alias) The Game, provides it with tremendous hitting
power and friendly ball reactions.

The Coverstock is very friendly and adjustable!

The ball can fit a large range of lane conditions and style of bowlers!

And the price point, Its the best buy going!!!

Alot of ball for the dollar!!!

Anyone who needs a anytime ball, should have this one in their bag!

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2002, 08:36:28 PM »
This ball defines "bang for your buck".  We sell them for $100.00, including finger and thumb grips, and they have sold like CRAZY.  I'll bet that since its release, we've sold 10-12 CASES of them.  GET ONE WHILE YOU CAN!  

I drilled a 15# Spirit (pin out 3") for myself in a 4x4 drill pattern, pin next to the ring finger, and the label stacked straight down.  I then took the ball back to neutral weight with an axis hole.  

The ball rolls so well, for me and nearly everyone that has bought one, that it could easily be sold for $200!  Mine deliverd medium length, and an awesome backend punch.  The only downside to this ball is that, unless you dull it down a bunch, it does not like wet patterns.  I tested it in a wood house, dry outsides and backends, and oily from 7 to 7.  I could play the oil line very easily, and the ball carried very well.  Even when I had to move deeper, the ball responded by making a great charge to the hole.  I then tested on synthetics, with 29 feet of oil buffed to 35, and dry outside 5.  It was so smooth and powerful in the transition from skid to hook, that is was just a pleasure to watch.  And, still great carry.  Not a thing not to like about it!  I, however, sold it to a friend, because he likes it even more than me.  I'm sure I'll get another one sometime though.  

As of right now, 10 out of 10 for affordability, versatility, and just plain VALUE!  Way to go Columbia!
J. J. Mastny
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University of Nebraska Omaha Bowling
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Re: Spirit
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2002, 11:02:11 PM »
#1.  Slow speed spinner.  Pin under ring finger, cg in lower right quadrant.  Weight hole 5" over and 2" down.   This ball hooking all over the place on a 36 ft. house pattern.
#2  Left handed stroker.  He dulled ball with green scotch brite.  Goes 35-40 ft.  hard roll up to pocket.
#3   Right hand cranker.  5" stack.  Goes long, nice smooth move to pocket.  Didn't jump off the dry very bad.

Will say again, good ball for league bowler that doesn't need a whole lot of help to move the ball.  Might be a secret weapon for tournament player on fried condition with high polish.

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2002, 08:35:45 AM »
On the advice from my driller and looking at the reviews here, he drilled a 15# Spirit with 3 inch pin.  He stacked it with the pin about a half inch outside and up of the ring finger.  The only place to practice last night was in one of the tougher houses around these parts.  Very few honor scores.  I rung three different balls out and this was the third one.  I'm right handed, a stroker but get pretty good revs on the ball.  I bowled Regionals for a while before I hurt my shoulder.  From the first ball to the last with the Spirit my thoughts were "OH my God.  What a ball."  I've been around this game quite a while,  I'll be 50 next month, and have NEVER seen a ball with this much power.  It was the last ball of the day and I only bowled 1 game with it and it was 280.  The pins literally exploded when it hit them.  There was a league bowling in the house and by the fith frame they were watching when I was up.  The smack in the pins was that conclusive.  I played it in the oil, it was skid/snap, barely looked like any break until it hit the pins, and it crushed them.  I played it on the oil line, in the track, skid/roll/snap, and it crushed them.  I played out where it was dry where NOONE scores in this house, 4 balls, skid/roll/hook, and it crushed them.  There were no swishers, no wiggly falling 10s, no wall shots.  Just honest to goodness ten in the pit.  The one ten pin I left was from the outside and it was stoned.  And what makes it even more amazing is this ball is inexpensive.  Way to go Columbia! Anyone that doesn't have one of these is missing out.

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2002, 08:11:14 PM »
I bought this ball as a result of a listing in the AUCTION at this site. I thought the price was a little high so I wrote to the person with the ball and made an offer. The person turned out to be a PRO and was very fair about it and accepted the offer. I had this PRO (who lives in PA) also drill the ball for me. I wasn't expecting much from the ball, since it was rather cheap, however, I had been reading the great review on it and wanted to try it. I was delightfully surprised. This ball is great. It holds the line and sends messangers all over the ally. I must give credit to the Pro that drilled the ball, he did a GREAT job using one of my existing balls for specs. The PRO is: MICHAEL CIMBA. Great job MIKE, thanks .. this ball hits better then my REMEDY, my BUZZSAW/C and my AFTERBURNER .. a ball worthwhile adding to your arsenal.
RIP Thongprincess/Sawbones!

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2002, 02:05:07 PM »
I got mine used with a 5" pin drilled with the pin above the ring finger and cg in the center of my grip.  

Bowled on a 7 to 7 oiled to 30 buffed to 40 shot.
Played across the oil, held the line and snapped off the dry, threw seven strikes then left a ten.  Played straight down the second arrow, held the line to 40 then ripped back and crushed.  Threw 8 strikes before another 10 pin.  This ball is very versitile and sends pins flying.

This ball compliments the ultra hot beautifuly, it hooks as much ultra hot but the spirit hooks about 10 feet later and a lot harder backend.  It also caries a little better.  Highly recommended because of the performance, cannot beat the price either.

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2002, 12:07:01 AM »
This is a follow up review.  I have been able to throw this ball on a variety of conditions and reporting unexpected results.

I have yet to find a condition that i could not throw this ball on.

On an extremely bunt up shot, the ball did not burn up in the heads and energy on the backend to carry all ten.

On a medium oil 7 to 7 with carrydown the ball clears the medium oil and just arcs beautifully on the carrydown.

On a heavy oil 5 to 5 with fresh backends the ball goes forever and rips on the backend.

On a tricky sport conditon the ball is very forgiving and eventhough they change the amount of oil weekly, i can still use this ball every week.  Only minor adjustments are needed.  

This ball is by far better than my messenger ti which i thought at the time was the best mid priced ball i have ever thrown.  And this ball is even cheaper!  This will be the first ball i own multiples of, i want to try a different drilling.

Greatness

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2002, 06:55:00 PM »
This is a very good ball for the price. I have used it on wood and synthetic and have found that it reacts and hits better on synthetic. I used it in a tournament today. My Raging Red Fuze left the 10 pin 8 times in the first game, i switched to my Spirit and the 10 pin fell. My score went up 70 pins. Very nice ball, i am glad i made the purchase.

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2002, 10:33:39 PM »
I made a review on this ball on March 14, 2002. After my review I had trouble with my thumb swolling up and could not use the ball for about 3 weeks. I took it to a local Pro shop(Buffaloe North in Raleigh)and without a charge, he refitted the ball.

This has got to be the BEST BUY on the market today in Bowling Balls. Untill you throw it yourself you won't believe how good it is. I read the reviews at this site every day and see where people brag about how good different balls are and some even say how reasonable priced the ball is .. $165; $180; etc. The SPIRIT can be bought (drilled)for half that price and the reaction you get will be JUST AS GOOD. In some cases BETTER! I have a BUZZSAW C/CARBIDE that is a tremendous ball .. but I payed through the nose for it .. I'd take the SPIRIT over it any day.

How can we tell these manufacturers that enough is enough .. one way is to STOP PAYING those rediculous prices and shop around for spots like the SPIRIT!!
RIP Thongprincess/Sawbones!

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2002, 09:24:43 AM »
Purchased a 15lb. Spirit and had it drilled 4x4 stacked with pin under ring finger.  I am a power stroker with low to average revs and low to medium speed and reference the 2nd arrow as my initial target.  I used this ball on a 1st shift fairly fresh synthetic house shot.

This ball gets through the heads nicely and saves its energy for the flip into the pin deck.  Carry is as good as anything else I own if not better.  I will be trying this ball at a wodden lane house tonight.  As Joe Falco said, this is plenty of ball for typical house conditions and very affordable for a change.  Unless you bowl for big$$ tournaments or atypical lane conditions, this is probably all the ball you need except for maybe a plastic spare ball.

I will be curious to see how well this ball holds up over time and how versatile it can be.  Definitely a winner in the "bangs for the bucks" department.

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2002, 12:11:16 PM »
Ball layout:  15lb 4 oz. - top weight 3.2 oz., pin out. Drilled stacked leverage pin next to ring finger and cg in center of grip. Lane conditions - synthetic with various oil patterns - usually light to medium with moderate carrydown. On this type of condition ball is very aggressive and makes a strong arcing hook at about 40 ft. Although I like to play up the boards around 10 -12, I found I could only do this for the first game. After that it was move way left swing it across 20 out to about 6 or 7 at the break and watch it turn and burn to the pocket. The ball seems to hit and carry better with this shot than throwing it up the boards - don't know why, but that's been my observation. At any rate, it is a terrific ball and a great bargain!! I'm a 190 avg. bowler, and for the last 3 weeks I've averaged 204 with this ball! Easy to read and control and lots of power - just destroys the pins!!! I give it a 9.5 - way to go Columbia! Thanks to all the other reviewers who turned me on to this ball!

p.s. I left it in out of box condition - if you want to use it on a little heavier oil pattern you would probably want to sand or scuff it.......P.J.

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2002, 11:45:30 PM »
Very very good ball for the buck. I have drilled about 75 of these balls for bowlers from less than 3 months experience to PBA members and only had one person not like the ball ( and he set it up himself ) Ive used mine to pick up 10 pins as well as down and in and also for a inside shot up 15 to stay in oil for a lesser reaction.Just drilled one for a team USA member and she loves it. Get one while they last because when they are gone that is it there will be no more made.

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Re: Spirit
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2002, 09:28:01 AM »
Summary: My two catchphrases for it are "tweener heaven" and "baby Game". Controllable hard arc, earlier and stronger than the specs indicate. Great complement to the Ti Messenger Pearl. Everyone I've talked to that got it in a high RG drilling wants another one in a hook/stop; I certainly do.  

I'm moving my equipment one ball at a time to 15 # and started with my mildest resin. I had a Scout/R in 16 and wanted to upgrade, so I initially tried a Too Hot. Short story, 3 drillings in 2 different Too Hots flare over the fingers. We screwed around with various layouts and weight hole tweaks for 3 months with no joy. There's just something about me and this core with the pin anywhere near the ring.

My pro shop suggested a Spirit. First drilling worked great. The problem is, the two are not directly comparable. I'm told that Spirit is actually a light load particle, but I can find nothing to confirm that statement.  

Ball specs: 15#3, 2 3/4 top, 2" pinout. 5 1/2 x 5 1/2, pin in the ring finger, mass bias in the track. Final static weights are: 1/4 side, 5/8 finger, 1 1/8 top. This is a good drilling, and it fits into my arsenal better than I'd planned. For a little wetter shot, I have a strong hunch that a 4 x 2 could work well and I plan to try that later.

Here's a lesson in specs versus experience. For a 15# Spirit, you see an RG of 2.590 (vs. 2.582 for Too Hot) and a diff of .030 (same as a Scout/R). Letting it follow its nature, you get it in a high-RG drilling. For a little extra length, maybe you drill the pin in the ring. You think this is going to be super long ball with a bit of flip, maybe something for dry lanes to the lightest oil. Even though it's not a Superflex pearl, right or wrong, you worry it may be touchy at the breakpoint.

And you'd be absolutely wrong on every count. Spirit is a midlane-reading ball. It is just a bit longer than a Ti Messenger Pearl, not as long as a Scout, not nearly as long as a Too Hot. So far, it has proven tough to throw through the breakpoint.

The backend is a strong driving arc. Summerfield referred to one ball's backend as "a patient veer", and that's the idea here as well. You could probably build flippier layout but I don't think you could make it much longer without a lot of polish. What it really reminds me of is a baby Game, transposed about 8 boards.

It is emphatically not a dry lanes ball and while it can handle a bit of dry, it doesn't get through the heads quite as well as a pearlized resin. My experience is that you have to be ready to hit it with some polish the minute the track starts to dull or it will want to start up too early. I loved it on second-day backends, but got some over/under on third-day as the shot burned up after several hours of open play.

Hits really, really good, again like a baby Game. I get a great reaction out of it, especially from deeper outside lines. Because you aren't burning up the energy to swing it 5 - 6 boards into the dry, the carry is a actually a wash between Spirit and the more powerful Ti Messenger Pearl.

Who will like it: My opinion is that Spirit is tweener heaven on a league shot or wet/dry. A great balance of strength and control for this style. There's that mythical phrase "control ball": what I mean specifically is that it was easy to get and stay lined up with it and to maintain a consistent breakpoint, it responds predictably to different releases and index and pinkie positions, and it doesn't jump on the dry.

I think the bowler who likes the particle-type arc but needs a milder coverstock will also like it a lot.

Spirit adds a lot of value to an arsenal that already contains a Ti Messenger Pearl. It's a great complement to the TiMP, with minimal condition overlap and a very different look. My current 4-ball is Amulet (CG in palm), Spirit (MB in track), TiMP (4 x 4) or TFlash (4 1/2 x 3) depending on the heads and backends, and Game (4 1/2 x 3), and there's almost no overlap at all. Someone that uses plastic for their spare ball would want to fill the gap on the low end.

Who will not like it: To the low-rev guy, it's going to be just another dry lanes choice. Bullred pointed this out, saying that Spirit is for the "league bowler that doesn't need a whole lot of help to move the ball".

What it's for: League shot on light to lighter medium conditions. Sits perfectly below what you'd throw a Ti Messenger Pearl on.

What it's not for: fried or much above a light medium condition. The only real weakness I've seen is that, strangely enough, it's the worst thing to over/under that I own.

Overall rating: 9.

Versatility: 8. Higher-rev styles on a variety of league shots. I think it really shines in the hands of a tweener/power tweener type. Not much there for the stroker. Once you get one in a length drilling, you'll want one in an early roll as well.

I'm torn here. There are a lot of pros and cons in balance in this rating. I wound up knocking off a point because no matter what the design goal was, it's what I call a 'baby bear' ball - the style and conditions can't be too hot or too cold.

Control: 9. Lots of things to commend it.

Hit & Carry: 9. A very efficient piece of equipment. A good-hitting ball, about like a Game.
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Re: Spirit
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2002, 07:32:25 PM »
Hello Fellow Bowlers!
What's all the commotion about this Columbia Spirit ball?
After reading all the favorable reviews about it and the budget price ($80.00 total for me brand new & drilled with finger inserts & thumb slug)I had to go out and give it a try.
After replacing the finger inserts to the proper size, I decided to give it a try this afternoon on full synthetic lanes (AMF I believe, and medium oily).
The 15 lb. ball is drilled strong with the pin 1" right of the ring finger and the CG kicked-out below it between the fingers & thumb.
Out of all my equipment, this ball is the strongest on the backend.  Big, strong, arcing hook and the most powerful hit to the pins! Monster backend.
I'd say it hits harder than the Firehawk, Red Fuze & Purple Fuze and they're no slouches either.
If you can find the pocket it'll strike bigtime.  But I found it a little trickier to get it there consistently compared to the rest of my stuff.
A little tougher to control on the backend because of it's power when it gets there - a big, sweeping hook.  Was forced to play inside-3rd arrow,which I seldom do. 10-board is my usual default position.
Relatively clean in the front end and takes off when it hits dry.
If you get it out of bounds in oil, it won't recover.  But it still hits good.
Very good value for the $$$.  Check it out! What I've been hearing about this ball is true.