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Title: Throttle-R
Post by: admin on December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 PM
Weight Rg Differential Rg
16 lb. 2.519 0.057
15 lb. 2.548 0.057
14 lb. 2.583 0.057
 
Total Hook Hook Potential
(in Oil) (Dry Backends)
57 36 21

Color:Crimson/Purple/Bronze w/Yellow Logo
Finish: Smooth
Track Flare: 4-6
Available Weights: 16,15,14,13,12

Cam Shaft Core Triple flip block core design which provides optimum energy release at the break point.
MuscleGT Larger solid additive produces maximum friction in heavy oil with a continuous arcing backend motion.

Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: Jeff Mop on June 29, 2003, 04:16:51 PM
Just like the Throttle, the Throttle-R flares a heck of a lot.  In some ways, this ball reminds me of a next-generation Pearl Aftershock.

The Throttle-R has no problems getting through the heads.  I drilled the ball so the ring finger was straight into the pin and the CG is stacked directly under it, just a hair shifted towards the positive axis.  Final specs are 5 1/3 X 4 1/2 with the pin 2 3/4 above midline.  

Unfortunately, I was only able to test the ball so far on a flood of oil.  This is definitely not this ball's strength.  The Accelerator coverstock goes very long.  I was able to move out to about 6 and find enough dry to get the ball back to the pocket.  Once I did, I didn't stop striking.  The Throttle-R saves its energy to rebound off the dry boards very hard.  It does't use up much energy in the heads at all, so the flip is very dramatic.  I would recommend it for when the track is drying up and you need to get inside it with something that will carry and kick out the corner pins.  Like the Throttle, I don't think a very strong drill pattern is necessary because of the high flare potential of the Throttle-R.  

This ball might be at the top of the list of balls that "go long and flip hard"

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Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: brainfish2 on July 21, 2003, 07:48:19 PM
I won one of these in a raffle at the St. Louis JG. I am a throw a spinner with medium ball speed (16-17 mph) with medium to low revs. For anybody with similar stats or with the ball at all, what drillings worked for you? I'm looking for something to go longer and finish harder than my Rock Star w/ pin above the fingers.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: shimozukawa on August 18, 2003, 07:46:42 PM
I drilled my Throttle-R similar to the set-up for my Spirit (5.75"x3.75" pin-below and left of middle finger, cg right of centergrip).

I _REALLY_ like this ball, REALLY!

I haven't been able to swing a lane like this in a while.

Oil 12 ft. 38 ft buff, I was able to stand 38 and swing the ball to the three. The ball would float to the gutter and then just snap back to the hole.

Skid-snap, on the big end.

Heavy: 8. (The ball squirts on heavy, better choices out there: like the Throttle.)

Medium-Heavy: 19. (The ball tends to be a bit over-under because of the skid-flip tendency.)

Medium: 24! (This ball is just too cool to not give a 24 on medium-oil.)

Medium-light: 18. (There are better choices, but the "R" will get the job done.)

Light: 19. The ball rates better on light than "medium-light" because of its ability to get through the heads. However, this ball doesn't like carry-down, so it can't recover on medium-light.

Over-all: 22.5 as a medium-oil ball.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: bowlman23 on September 18, 2003, 04:28:10 PM
I got one drilled up last night.  Basic specs: 16 lbs. 2-3" PIN, 3 oz top weight

Drilled it with pin under the fingers, cg kicked out.  balance hole off the thumb.  I wasn't sure what to expect.  Unfortunately, the lanes I was bowling on were a little tight so, I had to move outside really far to get this ball to do much.  However, once the lanes broke down, i was able to move in and swing it wide to the dry spot and have it come back fairly strong.  Ball hits very well, hardly ever left anything when the ball was in the pocket.  I think this ball will be good for wet/dry conditions.  It doesn't like heavy oil or carrydown, but it should work well for a normal 10-10 shot or christmas tree pattern.  I'll let you know how it works when I throw it some more.  For those of you who care, I averaged 220 with it for 4 games.  I'm a semi-stroker with decent revs, but not a cranker.  Usually play between 8-13 swinging the ball most of the time, but can move anywhere on the lane.  Hope this helps for anyone who bowls similar to me.  I'll post another review once I throw the ball more.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: Phillip Marlowe on September 30, 2003, 09:13:07 PM
Dame came into my office late in the afternoon.  She had pearls, a yellow gold ring and yellow gold necklace dripping off a figure that should have been labelled a traffic hazard.  She said she needed me to look into the value of a new gold bauble she was considering for her collection, a glittering orb she called the Throttle-R.  She liked the racy gold/pearl accelerator covers and the triple cam shaft core.  She said she needed something that would go long, move hard and plow through all opposition.  For her number, the promise of a date and one-fifty an hour, I took the case.

The Throttle-R looked sleek and fast, gold with black trim.  15 pounds, it was drilled with the pin over the ring, with both pin and CG four inches from the PAP, giving it a 1:30 look.  The stakeout went over lanes that were natural and synthetic, with and without enough conditioner to keep her hair looking silky, in patterns ranging from a crazy quilt to a molehill crown.

1.  Length or did it go far enough?  The TR went long all right, long on everything.  The ball seemed to have a mind of its own, and a distance it planned on travelling before it moved off the straight and narrow. Oil and no oil were the same to it.  It was going the big length.

2.  How did it move?  It soon became clear that the "accelerator" cover was no such thing and neither was the "breakpoint".  With this ball, it should be called the break area.  The core tried to rev and flare, but the ball flailed where the breakpoint should have been. I've seen stuff that doesn't want to go round the bend, but this one wouldn't turn the corner unless you spun the steering wheel left and kicked it.  If you were willing to race it, maxing out its speed and revolutions, it turned the corner all right, but the effort was too much for me.  Maybe the dame wouldn't mind, but it left me feeling tired and sore -- I just wanted to push the thing left.

3.  How much did it move?  Oh, it moved enough.  It went left gradually, but continuously, like a college professor trying to get tenure at a liberal arts college -- and, as you might guess, wouldn't stop.  Once it got started nothing would stop it, certainly not minimal carrydown.  The sheer amount of the move made it look like it turned the corner better than it actually did -- a mirage that proved costly when playing against the spread.

4.  How did it hit?  Once it finished loping toward the pins, it threw them around like Aragorn tossed Gimli -- scattering stuff in its path.  You want to keep this one on the light side, no heavy yellow gold here, so that the pins  scatter rather than melt into fast eights or splits.  On the whole, it hit a lot better than the move would have lead me to believe.

5.  Control over the gold.  The TR didn't overreact -- no, this one reacted more like a lazy hound dog, it got going when it had to, no more and no less.  It'd move harder when cranked from the side, but never a hard overreaction.  On a hard overblock, it recovered if sent to the right, though only as much as it would have anyway.  Left, well, unless the lane was juiced, it went it's merry way and punch me right in the nose.  It was a smooth pearl.

6.  What's the report of this investigation? Frankly, Columbia should turn this Throttle off. The coverstock smooths out the core -- for the average Joe, way too much.  As pretty as the gold cover is, for most of us, this one is fool's gold. Perhaps it's the worst core/cover combination I have tried.  Maybe for the higher speed (20 mph+) higher rev player, this could be a winner, as for the very low rev, lower speed player.  I wonder what the cam core would have done with the enhanced superflex they put on the Wicked.  Now there would be a ball worthy of the gold.

I told the dame that this one was costume gold and she should go somewhere else if she wanted a longish, forgiving pearl with a controllable breakpoint.  She decided on a Frenzy to help her get around the bend.  It felt good. Me, I'm gonna stay away from these high rent baubles and keep in my Element.  

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Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: bowlman23 on October 02, 2003, 12:35:19 AM
Here's my updated review on the Throttle-R.  I've had a chance to track this ball up a little bit.  I've seen that this ball is very good.  It needs a dry backend to hit hard though.  If it slides through the oil, you'll find that this ball will leave half-tens, and not always carry the light hit.  However if you have a wet-dry condition, this ball will work well and hit very hard.  I've scored well with it.  Shot 727 on Sunday night with it.  It was the perfect wet-dry condition for this ball.  If you are looking for something that will make the move in the dry, this ball will do it, and you can get away with pitching it in the middle.  Just make sure you don't overdo it with the hand in the dry, otherwise you'll get an over-reaction.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: pba4583 on December 12, 2003, 09:38:34 AM
Good ball for players with a little less hand (like me) but still want something that will go long and flip hard. Mine is drilled with the pin above the ring finger. The balls goes long and then flips as hard as any I have seen. Carries very well. Players with higher ball speeds probably wont be able to use this unless the lanes are toasted or they get 30 revs.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: bobojimmye on December 17, 2003, 12:28:35 AM
I GOT THIS BALL THE FIRST WEEK OR SO IT WAS CAME OUT AND THE  ONLY GOOD THING I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT IT IS...IT'S GOT A REALLY COOL COLOR! I HAD THE BALL DRILLED NEGATIVE TO TRY AND MAKE SURE I GOT IT THROUGH THE HEADS OK AND I MUST SAY IT PERFORMS WELL AT THIS. HOWEVER Getting IT TO REACT THE SAME WAY TWICE  IS A DIFFERENT STORY IN ITSELF. I NEVER SEEM TO KNOW WHEN IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT'S TURN AND HOW HARD IT WILL BE COMING WHEN IT DOES. EVERY TIME I HAVE THOUGHT THE LANES WOULD BE RIGHT FOR THIS BALL I WAS QUICKLY SLAPPED IN THE FACE BY THE TOTAL Inconstancies OF THE BALL. I REALLY WISH THIS BALL HAD BEEN A BETTER ONE FOR ME AND @ $200 A POP THIS WAS A Costly MISTAKE. IF YOU ARE Interested IN ONE OF THESE BALLS I WOULD SUGGEST YOU WAIT A COUPLE MORE MONTHS WHEN EBAY WILL BE FLOODED WITH THEM MAYBE THEN YOU CAN GET A GOOD DEAL. BUT FOR MY TWO CENTS THIS IS JUST AN OVER PRICED Unreliable DUD FROM Columbia and remember this is just my opinion you may very well have this ball or get this ball and love it.

Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: White_Trash_Ball_Driller on December 17, 2003, 02:49:01 PM
Hey Boob,

This ball is not a dud.  The reaction you are getting is because of the way drilled it.  I have sold alot of these, and seen alot in action.  Learn how to bowl, and then comment on a high performance ball.


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Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: pocketsmasher5158200 on February 06, 2004, 07:26:59 PM
I bought this ball in the early fall or 2003 and when i first saw it out of the box I fell in love.  The colors in this ball are so Sweet and its just an EYE Catcher when you see it.  Now when i got it drilled and had it on the lane for the first time Yikes, does this ball move.  The first time i threw this ball i swear it went from about the 5th board from the right(next to the Right gutter) all the way to the left gutter.  I was going nuts.  After a while of using it i got to be able to handle it and all of its POWER.  After about a month or so i got used to it and i went from being about a 140-145 bowler to now about 160+.    This ball certainly ain't for beginners and is probaly for people who have a higher ball speed and higher rev speed as well.  This ball is basically CRAZY when you see it on the lanes.  The hook it has is just amazing.  SOme times you think your gonna throw the ball in the gutter and this ball comes ALIVE and goes either In the pocket or "Jersey/Brooklyn".  Simply amazing. This ball is definitely a "Buy Me" type ball if you have bowled for a while and have high ball and rev speeds.   For a pricey ball this ball is worth every penny.   Remember when and if you buy this ball it does take a little time to get used to it because of its high hook and every thing else.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: Matt Fortney on February 19, 2004, 04:07:17 AM
I have to say i was a little bit dissapointed with this ball at first.  Basically i was expecting the wrong thing. Columbia says it hooks, i get it...and it doesn't...very much.  i was expecting a lot more aggressive ball so after the initial shock that...omg..it doesn't hook, i realized it's an excellent ball for med. oil...if it's hvy/med...careful. good ball. just not what i expected.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: heckler17 on February 19, 2004, 11:00:32 AM
The worst Columbia product I've ever thrown.  I was expecting a ball similar to the Ricochet, and hoping for a ball that hooked like the Wicked in the backend.  What I got was a juiced up version of my white dot.  Well it isn't that bad, but the only way I can get this thing to finish and have a decent backend reaction is to throw it outside second arrow, letting it get to the dry outside boards early.  If you are looking for a Columbia ball that gets trough the oil and finishes strong, pick up an Ego.  Its a much better ball than the POS Throttle/R.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: davecarnie14 on February 22, 2004, 11:37:36 PM
I got this ball, 16 lbs., after the rest of my bowling stuff got stolen.  I had previously been throwing a Messenger Titanium and wanted something that was similar but a little bit more active.  I love this ball. Best ball i have ever bought. did exactly what i want it to do. i am 17, and throw the ball 17-19 mph with med to high revs. This ball finishes strong and looks incredible. 10/10 stars!!!!  
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: ColumbiaBwlr300 on March 25, 2004, 11:43:11 AM
I would like to say my thought's about this ball.  I am a cranker, and this ball hits so hard for me i fell in love with it after the first shot.  All my friends and people who watch me bowl fall for this ball when i throw it.  It goes so far down the lane then snaps at such a rate and slams the pocket very very very hard.  I say people who crank a ball,  get this ball.  It is worth it.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: mrspacely on March 30, 2004, 01:01:39 AM
I picked up a used ball from eBay and used the drilling almost as it came to me, having to move the thumb out around 1/4" and replaced the slug with my custom molded slug. I was excited to post a review, even though the ball is in my locker, and I forgot to memorize the pin placement, etc. I believe it is drilled with pin below ring finger and the CG kicked out an inch to the right... 2-3" pin out.

I have only used the ball for one series, but I am already SOLD on it for slow speed med-rev players. I played today just before they laid down the standard X-mas tree pattern... so I was on a day old pattern... but it did not seem too squirrely. I was standing 20, throwing pretty straight up the 8-board oil line. When I pushed it a bit to the right, it came back with a vengeance (as long as stayed down on the shot). When I pulled it a bit, it held nicely as long as I kept the speed up. I ended up throwing a 621 with NO practice shots (chopped a spare the first frame and had two bad splits in game three) and am REALLY LOOKING FORWARD to testing it on a fresh league shot. I will try to update this report after I have more time with it. For now, I will describe it as a "control ball" with good power... predictable... consistent.
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: denty191 on April 03, 2004, 06:30:14 PM
i am thinking of buying this ball for a medium oil ball....i am a stroker and i like to stand around 15 out to 7-8 board and let it come back but i am not sure which ball to get can i have some help please??
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Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: denty191 on April 03, 2004, 06:30:54 PM
1 more thing is it particle or resin??
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Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: chamo191 on April 03, 2004, 06:33:19 PM
PARTICLE!! ... P.S .. denty post your questions on the forum page on the left thakz
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Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: s1nger1 on April 03, 2004, 09:05:21 PM
It's a reactive ball.
Coverstock Technology: Accelerator-New reactive formula provides length with a more controllable move at the break point. Hence the R in throttle-R
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: chamo191 on April 18, 2004, 08:21:14 PM
so is the ball a resin or partical ball ???
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Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: s1nger1 on April 19, 2004, 02:39:38 PM
resin
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: mrspacely on April 27, 2004, 07:25:48 PM
Med speed (14-16), Med rev's, high track righty... 195-205 average...

On fresh patterns, I may have ben "babying it" due to what looks like a highly polished "go long" cover stock... and it wanted to start up too strong when it hit the fresh backends...

I recently took out the Throttle-R to battle my home lanes 2-day old Christmas tree pattern with carry down. BOY... WHAT a difference... I came inside (for me) throwing 15 out to around 8, feet at 27... with decent speed (for me = 15-16) and at first it looked like it would go too long, but at ten feet from the deck... ZOOM... a great strong arc (almost a snap but WAY more controllable) and a 243-224-226-222 with NO warm-ups!

I will report more about the fresh shot once I go try it again with more speed from a teensy bit inside tonight during a fresh league shot.

Spacely out!

Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: mrspacely on June 22, 2004, 12:29:03 PM
New review on fresh oil shot!

I just used my Throttle-R on our new house shot to pre-bowl two sets... similar Christmas tree pattern to before, with a bit more oil... and after a 169 game trying to find a line (started around 17 at arrows given my previous success with this line but it squirted with the extra oil), I bowled 223, 243, then a 246, 253, 249 = 748 set. I ended up with a SIMPLE line from the 12 board at the arrows out to 4-5 board at the break point... and never had to move more than a board or two with my feet... I did increase the speed just a bit as they changed a bit.

I am so HAPPY TO BREAK OUT OF MY RECENT SLUMP (had a 519 and a 493 in one week!) and felt real confused. Hopefully this marks the end of the <600 series for a while...

Now if I could just get my confidence up with my Full Throttle... the thumb is a bit loose and I can not get in a comfort zone with it...
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 15, 2004, 12:05:44 AM
Accelerator my A!
Lane Conditions: Medium-Light Oil
Typical Conditions: House Shot
Type of Lane: All Synthetic
What part of the lane did you play? Second Arrow
Did the ball track out? Normal
Weight of bowling ball: 15
Surface of bowling ball: Factory/Box
What grit was the surface of the ball? 600
Likes: This ball really really likes to strike!
Rock hard candy synthetics this thing is a champ combined with medium to light oil patterns. Can be longer.
Dislikes: NOt really a skid snap pearl, may be a blessing in disquise!

Ok I bowl in a house they call "Lefty death". NOt the righties as long as lefties don't win they don't even know you are there or what the hell is going on in lefty land! I mean who cares right?

Condition is rock hard Brunswick Pro anvil lanes with a light sprinkling of very thin and ready to change oil out to 40 feet.

It turns out that the shot for lefties is a strange 10 to 6 or 10 to 4 swing. Don't bother two and oning it just hit right near 10 and swing almost to the gutter and if you don't fluff you may strike all day.!

This ball sure can!

Drilled 4 3/4 X 4..... 3.5 inch pin out has the pin about 1 inch above the ring finger. (Weak for me). I've been going to these drillings instead of pin next to ring to get more skid and travel in the midlanes where all balls drilled stronger have been reading hard and early in the midlanes.

This ball though it acts like a softer pearl shell(one of the new 72 to 75 hardness balls)(but it is not it is listed at 75 to 78 hardness) seems to never really exectute the classicskid snap pearl reaction. It is sort of quick straightaway skid followed by we're bored could we please leave the dufus bowling alley? All Right already!

Now back to the ball.. Accelerator coverstock means it accelerates what? For a pearl this thing is really not skid snappy!! BUT for a pearl it is reading all way down the lane.
If you didn't know this year I have just offered to watch HER kids and this coverstock is a lot like the bowling ball she is not getting.

How's that? WELLLL It is NOT Exciting!
IN fact accelerator which is 500 grit sand + 2000 degree polish is the out of box surface. Maybe it is this 500 grit base sand which makes one think this ball is reading earlier than other rock hard pearls.

But as a result this ball has no skid snap but on syntetics it is a jewel. It reads early with it's higher rg compared to balls like the V2 pearl and El Nino Wrath with their low rg are revving much faster and harder in the heads and midlane than this medium high rg core. And yet they have the older style rock hard coverstocks that really were skid snap! Due to skiddier coverstock.

Like other reviews with a high pin and weaker pin position this baby was ready for College ball! In other words go straight and then start flaring and then curl hard and with tons of carry into the pocket(slurve!). Despite it's higher rg it does not get down the lane as fast as those mopes who harrassed you in the parking lot!

As a result of this combination this ball never seems to get behind the head pin and was carry ing like crazy from outside 6 at the breakpoint. Numerous 6 and 7 baggers in my practice session with the usual oil shortage on the lanes!

Someone recently stated that the Rip is a similar ball to this yeah maybe but that one has more skid snap in it giving the prerequisite pearl ball over under. This ball has none of that!

Glad I got it!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS I bought this after watching one of our areas big studs tear up the local lanes then go away from this gem and then struggle and then come back and tear them up with the Throttle/R.
PPS I think that our smooth friend above may have really hit on something to give you a boring look but a heck of a lot of strikes!
PPPs Not accelerator but dullerator!
PPPPS closest ball in reaction out is the very nice and predictable X-factor original with its seemingly softer cover also.
PPPPPS now my strikes look just like Mr. 10 in the pit above.
Sometimes corner pins being blown back straight back vs more trouble kick outs and flats for my more traditional skid snap balls!





Edited by luckierlefty on 12/14/2004 12:03:14 AM
Title: Re: Throttle-R
Post by: mrspacely on May 05, 2006, 02:21:10 AM
I went to 14 pound equipment after hurting a shoulder this season. I sold all my 15's, including my Throttle-R. JUST found a NIB 14 pounder and bought it... anxiously awaiting its arrival. It turns out to be a good ball when the shot is "squirrely" like it was tonight. We have 2 200+ bowlers roll a 497 and a 460 at us tonight! I only got a 508 and was fourth high out of 10! I am looking FORWARD to punching the new one out and seeing if it is as good as I remember!