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Title: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 06, 2014, 10:09:22 PM
Greetings
 What ball would you recommend to go along with my "Enigma - Oath - Freeze Hybrid" ?

 I would like the new "Crazy Antics" but I dont know if that would be the smart thing to do  8) of course it certainly wouldnt be the 1st time I did something weird with my bowling gear  :o

 Maybe if I left my Enigma and Oath at OOB and put some polish on the "Crazy Antics" then do you think that would prevent any overlapping???
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: mikelane2325 on January 06, 2014, 10:16:08 PM
What are you looking for the ball to do? Because their are two recommendations based solely on what you have
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 06, 2014, 10:59:11 PM
To play on medium oil and I would be standing (around) 28 and throwing out for a small swing  shot...I'm right handed.
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 06, 2014, 11:25:24 PM
After reading a few posts about the CA I think I might be better off with the 'Disruption'...I'm looking for a ball yo go above my Freeze Hybrid basically.
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: mikelane2325 on January 06, 2014, 11:43:11 PM
My personal suggestion would be a smack down or the new take down. Smack down will do just that, will give a little more midlane and less backend then the take down but it's an amazing ball! You can't go wrong with either one! I don't know if your a tournament or sport shot bowler at all but if you are I would also suggest the ca as well for when you want to stay in the same area as your egnima but your enigma starts to burn up and not retain energy. The reason I wouldn't go the disruption is because it will be a lot more wet dry sensitive then what your are looking for in what you described.
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 07, 2014, 12:05:18 AM
Ok thanks for the suggestions. What are your feelings about the Eruption Pro?
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: TWOHAND834 on January 07, 2014, 06:51:24 AM
In my opinion, you already have two high end smooth rolling balls.  So I dont think there is a need for another one like a Smack Down or Take Down.  The Eruption Pro or Disruption both would fit the bill nicely to go under the Oath but be a step above the Freeze.  Only other thing you could consider, is if you did a Take Down but added a coat of polish to it.  However, if you did that, you may as well just get the Crazy Antics.  But my suggestion is any of the Eruption balls.
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Dave81644 on January 07, 2014, 07:13:09 AM
IMO, the disruption is an awesome ball, however, only after i took the factory finish off and re-did it. that ball went way to far down the lane OBB.
then the ball came alive for me.
its also stronger overall then the eruption pro and IMO, much better
 
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: mikelane2325 on January 07, 2014, 09:03:47 AM
The eruption pro is a great piece! For a solid clears the heads and the mids quite nicely! The blue eruption was to angular for me although I loved the look I got I couldn't kick the corners due to entry angle the violent was a little better but I didn't like the over under I got out of the ball. Now the eruption pro have me that look but blended the lane a lot better. The reasoning for the smack down or take down was with what you described you could get that out of the pro but it might be a little more jumpy. The smack down is a hybrid whereas the oath is a solid with a stronger cover core combo so it's a good step down from the oath but they however are right about the eruption line. I do like the pro just don't be surprised if it pops off the backend more then you were expecting
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Dave81644 on January 07, 2014, 11:31:31 PM
The EP is a ball that needs some head oil, to much early friction and the ball slows down fast. changes direction to quick
if you find the shot where you can use the EP, it will store energy, have an even, arcing move and carry very well.
if its not that condition, then you have to put it away.
had mine drilled pin down, they re-drilled pin up
i am able to recreate OBB finish(pretty close anyways) and have had both drillings at 2000 dull to 4000 polished.
I will just repeat the above, when its good, its really good.
when its not, put it away
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 08, 2014, 03:20:07 PM
Where would you guys put the Perfect Scale for these balls since bowlingball.com has not put it up yet?

The balls in question are - Crazy Antics, Take Down

I know that the Perfect Scale is far from perfect but it does give me an idea anyway  8)

An example from bowlingball.com :

Eruption Pro - 189.9
Enigma - 216.47
Freeze Hybrid - 170.8

I'm thinking about one these 3, Eruption Pro, Crazy Antics, Take Down and I am kinda leaning towards the Crazy Antics since I found out its a pearl and I can polish to make it go longer...just saying!
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: mikelane2325 on January 08, 2014, 06:39:44 PM
Crazy antics will be somewhere around the enigma and take down close to the smack down and pro will be around the others
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 10, 2014, 12:33:45 PM
Another Q - if the Crazy Antics and the Vow were drilled the same would the Vow be more ball?

I'm asking because the Vow is made for med-heavy oil and the CA is made for med-oil...thanks again, Jake
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: mikelane2325 on January 11, 2014, 01:28:30 AM
No it would not
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 12, 2014, 10:11:16 AM
@mikelane2325, ???
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: mikelane2325 on January 12, 2014, 12:28:27 PM
The crazy antics is a totally different animal then the vow and depending on what your looking for the crazy would be more ball. The vow has more midlane but the crazy IMO would handle more volume
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 12, 2014, 05:05:30 PM
Thanks Mike, if I got the CA I would drill it rather tame, maybe, a label drill, however, there are to many to choose from :-)

So now I'm thinking the CA, Erup.Pro, Take Down, or the Mass Erup. ;-)
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: mikelane2325 on January 12, 2014, 10:45:31 PM
I myself and trying to decide on whether or not to drill myself up a take down or smackdown. I've thrown them already but for what I have personally I can't decide. I have a while before I decide anyway. I love how my ca is drilled. As a matter if fact I just shot 260 234 with it tonight had to switch to my 400a game 3 so I can't count that game
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 12, 2014, 11:16:23 PM
Good shooting mike...
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: mikelane2325 on January 13, 2014, 09:57:13 AM
Thanks man
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Monster Stitch on January 14, 2014, 11:49:46 AM
Mike-Smackdown is a great benchmark ball that can handle some oil. It has a strong midlane with a continuous arching backend. I am going to try a Takedown to fit inbetween my Smackdown and Eruption Pro then maybe get a Crazy Antic to fit on top.
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: mikelane2325 on January 14, 2014, 05:49:41 PM
Oh I know how it works for me I've thrown both of them
With the same layout they just weren't mine. I just can't decide on which one to
Get. I want the smack down but my head tells me the take down. I've already talked with the guy that does my stuff and we are basically stuck right now. After selling 6 balls I'm now down to my crazy antics, original taboo, 400a, low flare, and blue hammer. I know where they would fit but the predicament is what ball would be better with the layouts we have picked out. Smack down would be above bridge or to right of ring finger with cg in Palm. Take down would be pin under bridge cg kicked. And the surfaces would both be altered and polished. We just can't really decide on one or the other I know I can't go wrong and I'll be happy with either one, but what the better choice would be is the right question
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: makpa on January 15, 2014, 08:26:35 AM
I see it a little different. The Creazy Antics for me is great on shorter and medium patterns with some oil, because for me it is actually very smooth drilled 55* 5 5/8 *50 pin in midle finger. I had the best look on anything from 34 to 39 feet but i can throw it on longer patterns, but that is where the original Antics shines. The Vow for me is long and plenty backend with most succes on 41-43 feet after a couple of games, drilled 55* 5 3/8 *35 Pin above bridge. Eruption Pro is same drilling as Vow and is my go to ball on medium length medium volume and can throw it on fresh and until i loft the gutter on about anything 38-41 feet. I didnt like the disruption, to long and to angular, had a 55* 6 *35 pin above middle finger but never really liked it.

With the Enigma, Oath and Freeze i would look at something in the Eruption line

500rpm, 18.5 mph and tilt is 15.
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 15, 2014, 09:25:42 AM
Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: Big Jake on January 29, 2014, 03:04:47 PM
So I thought I would come back and let you all know what ball I selected. Its probably a little stronger then what I needed but not by much.

I got the *VOW* and it fits perfectly. I do keep it a little more polished then OOB but man-oh-man do I love the way this ball hits and rolls.

Are there anymore Columbia 300 balls that have the  Capsule core?? I also have the *OATH* which also has the Capsule core and with both balls having a Symmetric core it really fits my style perfectly.
Title: Re: a ball suggestion
Post by: bowlerzs on January 29, 2014, 07:50:50 PM
The capsule core was also in one of my favorite balls, the Omen. For me, the Omen was a ball that took all of the over reaction out of the backend and gave me a very controllable arching motion.