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MSC2471

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Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« on: March 02, 2005, 06:08:07 AM »
I figure I might as well get the layout questions flowing for a Columbia Panic that I plan on getting this month. I want this ball to be my medium to medium-light control ball. All the specs that I know about my game are in my profile. Right now for light oil control I have my Barrage, which is pin under ring finger- and I'm looking for a similar look as I have with my Hot Wire, which is pin above bridge, cg in palm...

Also, would you recommend taking the surface down a little bit so that I can have more of a controlled move to the ball? I know with the surface as is it would seem to store more energy and make a stronger move at the back.

Matt

 

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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2005, 03:41:19 PM »
Matt...  To combat the ball storing more energy / snapping harder there are a few ways to go with this:

1. Alter the surface
2. Place the pin closer to you PAP
3. Lower the pin...burry it in the ring finger or maybe below, then twist out the CG to where it will need a weight hole so we can tweek the reaction.

Given your current drillings you *might* want to give #2 a try.  I have a ball with the pin 2-1/2" away from my axis and in the past have had pin axis balls.  It's a nice reaction to have in the bag...even if it not as all purpose as some other drillings.  But in order to duplicate your current reaction #3 is probably best.
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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2005, 03:46:37 AM »
Matt,

Sorry, but I still have a hard time visually this as a control ball ... whereas something like a Valor/P Tour might be. Pearlized Super-Flex is a snappy, out of the box, as you can make a ball.

Modifying the surface would surely help; maybe sanding to 600/800 then using a VERY light polish, as opposed to the high gloss polish it comes with, 2000 grit.

Edited on 3/6/2005 4:43 AM
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MSC2471

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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2005, 08:00:32 AM »
Charlest: I guess I'm going to have to modify the surface a bit to get what I am looking for. I have a couple of tournaments where I need the ball to burn a little mid-lane energy and still have a decent move at the back- that's what I'm hoping for out of this ball. I've found that in order for me to tame the move in some of what I consider my control equipment (ie the Hot Wire, Barbed Wire) I've had to either take a lot off the ball hand/finger wise (resulting in loss of energy and weaker hits to the pocket) or upping the ball speed too much (which results in lots of corners, 6-8's, 7-9's....etc.).

Matt

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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2005, 08:33:44 AM »
I find this ball smooth and not that strong.  Still working on really getting a smooth release on it.

Above the Sonic X below the Sonic Boom.  Medium weak and need a fairly short pattern or a lot of hand.

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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2005, 12:35:43 PM »
LuckyLefty: Thanks for the information. Do you think it would stack up side by side to the Barbed Wire? That was my intention was to have another medium-light piece that would replace this ball and be a little stronger than my Barrage.

Matt

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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2005, 11:59:44 PM »
I have never seen the Barbed Wire or Barrage thrown sorry!
Heard good things about the barrage.

My Panic I am now getting a clean release on and striking up a storm.
First of all with 600 grit crosshatch sand and 2000 degree polish it looks like a hybrid pearl solid!

Today it was Columbia Day at my tough lanes.  After really having a nice day that should have been way better Sat in a tourney with my El Nino Wrath.  I could not get anything to really work EXCEPT for the panic had a great look all day!

Along with another good Columbia one the Throttle R, (3 to 4 boards stronger with the feet).  Also way outside my Dynamic Groove worked again.
Lanes Brunswick Pro Anvil oiled 30 feet 10 to 10 and then  after 30 a rapid tapering christmas tree is added to top it!  That's why so much jumpiness in the midlanes..   Ah soo said the dumb bowler!

Look of Panic now that I am clearing the thumb decent is very similar to a Sonci X solid but stronger at back.  Looks almost flush all the way down the lane!  AND decent backend.  On this pattern today it looked way better than the Hot Wire.  Just seemed flush all day.  Also much better than the Sonic Boom ....Today.  I believe the 600 cross hatch and 2000 polish probably will get the ball rolling nicely (mostly straight in the heads and mids and then it makes it smooth powerful and even slurve to the pocket.  To give you an idea this ball was much better than the Sonic Boom today, Sonic was skidding behind headpin.  Panic was in this case, we called her Hook Cartright!

Also working nicely today was the Throttle/r drilled a little weaker pin but still stacked like the Panic!  This ball /r was played a touched deeper with the feet but could really sweeping em off the lanes.  El Nino Wrath forced a strong backend and swing which really doesn't work at this house.

Again Cross hatch 500 and 2000 Degree polish!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS in general Throttle R and Panic are skid slurve type of balls.
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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2005, 04:51:55 AM »
Pearl Super-Flex on Panic is a notch stronger in hook and oil handling than the Barbed Wire, Sonic-X or Sonic Boom. Barbed Wire has similar RG but slightly more RG differential, thus flare, but coverstock is absolutely oil allergic.

The Panic, having very little flare, works by virtue of RG, cover and bowler's hand. Many people take that Columbia gloss polish off to reduce the out-of-box extreme skid most COl300 pearls have at the beginning. Bob Summerville (deceased) of BTM used to strongly recommend sanding them to 600 grit, and then re-applying the polish of your choice before ever using one.
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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2005, 04:41:23 PM »
Thanks once again Jeff. I think I'll have my pro shop driller adjust the coverstock accordingly and then apply a light polish from there...

Matt

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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2005, 12:44:09 PM »
Matt, rather than changing the surface from what it was designed to do I would suggest you get a Columbia Rip.  It is basically what you are looking for, a more controlled version of the Panic that is a sharp arc shape that reads the midlane better than the Panic.  I have both and the Rip is a lot more useable drilled the way you want to.  You can compare the two at www.columbia300.com and you will see that they are close to each other in where they fit into an arsenal.

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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2005, 01:05:03 PM »
Turbo,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I've already purchased and drilled out my Panic this morning- unfortunately I will have to wait til leagues to try it out though, as we are having a significant snow storm again in the Northeast.

Matt

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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2005, 09:05:21 PM »
I have a Reaction Rip also.  I think a very good skid snap ball.

A lot more flare and angle at break big hitter if right also!.  A good ball but much different from the earlier revving(slightly lower rg and less pearly) and archier Panic!

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Re: Drilling suggestions for a Columbia Panic
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2005, 09:06:28 PM »
In fact I was intrigued with some lighter oil conditions I face I was going to put a quick 3 ball comparison of some solutions I've found.

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LUckylefty
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