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Equipment Boards => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: ekster on July 24, 2006, 09:29:41 AM

Title: Apogee??
Post by: ekster on July 24, 2006, 09:29:41 AM

Asymetrical w/tweaked M80 coverstock?

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Hoselrockets on July 24, 2006, 10:05:00 PM

Asymetric yes, tweaked m80 no. This is a brand NEW core!!
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on July 25, 2006, 01:35:46 AM

This is a brand new core, listen to joe on this one. I dont know if you remember talking to me at the ace trade show because of all the people, but we talked about this ball a good bit. I cant wait to see it hit the market. I think it will make heads turn. I love the specs on it including the intermedite diff. I think this one will be the brand new ball I buy this year.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Offical "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio

"The Revolution has started. The sides were drawn, and if you didnt Choose the side ofEvolution you will fall to the power that it has."

and I said "PLEASE, I ONLY WANT TO GET ONE MORE BALL." he responded "THAT WAS WHAT 12 BALLS AGO." I said back "WELL, YA BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT."

"Freak Bowling Ball cleaner of the TRACK Revolution."

Edited on 7/25/2006 1:32 AM

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: JessN16 on July 25, 2006, 02:52:32 AM

Why is it, when I hear the name of this ball, that my mind flashes back to Angela Lansbury in "Bedknobs and Broomsticks"...

"Filigree, Apogee, Pedigree, Pedidgee!"

Jess

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: JEE on July 25, 2006, 09:02:35 AM

Do we have a release date for this ball? Does it have any information on where it fits into the columbia line up.

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on July 25, 2006, 02:24:17 PM

I have all the stats as to the core numbers and where it fits but I will not say because it isnt my info to give out.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Offical "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio

"The Revolution has started. The sides were drawn, and if you didnt Choose the side ofEvolution you will fall to the power that it has."

and I said "PLEASE, I ONLY WANT TO GET ONE MORE BALL." he responded "THAT WAS WHAT 12 BALLS AGO." I said back "WELL, YA BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT."

"Freak Bowling Ball cleaner of the TRACK Revolution."

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Hoselrockets on July 25, 2006, 09:31:34 PM

This ball will be available in September.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on July 26, 2006, 11:14:33 AM

OK.  It appears that I have been out of the country for the past few months because WTF is an Apogee?
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Malaysian Chest Implosion Torture Specialist.

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on July 26, 2006, 11:44:28 AM

Hmm...

What is apogee?

Apogee is the point at which a satellite in an elliptical orbit is furthest from the Earth.  At its apogee, the satellite travels slower than at any other point in its orbit.

Sweet!

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Current Arsenal:
Geddy Lee
Of salesmen!

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on July 26, 2006, 12:42:27 PM

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Hmm...

What is apogee?

Apogee is the point at which a satellite in an elliptical orbit is furthest from the Earth.  At its apogee, the satellite travels slower than at any other point in its orbit.

Sweet!

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Current Arsenal:
Geddy Lee
Of salesmen!

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I know what THAT is...lol

I was simply wondering what kind of ball this was supposed to be!
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Malaysian Chest Implosion Torture Specialist.

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on July 26, 2006, 01:10:37 PM

It was answered in the above posts.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Offical "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio

"The Revolution has started. The sides were drawn, and if you didnt Choose the side ofEvolution you will fall to the power that it has."

and I said "PLEASE, I ONLY WANT TO GET ONE MORE BALL." he responded "THAT WAS WHAT 12 BALLS AGO." I said back "WELL, YA BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT."

"Freak Bowling Ball cleaner of the TRACK Revolution."

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on July 26, 2006, 01:13:52 PM

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I know what THAT is...lol

I was simply wondering what kind of ball this was supposed to be!

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Well judging by the name, I would say this ball travels at its furthest orbit.  In other words, this ball is going to go WAY out there and come back.

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Current Arsenal:
Geddy Lee
Of salesmen!

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on July 26, 2006, 02:11:27 PM

quote:

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It was answered in the above posts.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Offical "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio

"The Revolution has started. The sides were drawn, and if you didnt Choose the side ofEvolution you will fall to the power that it has."

and I said "PLEASE, I ONLY WANT TO GET ONE MORE BALL." he responded "THAT WAS WHAT 12 BALLS AGO." I said back "WELL, YA BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT."

"Freak Bowling Ball cleaner of the TRACK Revolution."

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It's a new core that nobody knows what it looks like.

It's a coverstock that nobody knows what it is.

The only thing I know is that it's assymetric.

How is that an answer to my inquiry?
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Malaysian Chest Implosion Torture Specialist.

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on July 26, 2006, 02:20:35 PM

Pretend the ball is the moon and you are the Earth.
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Current Arsenal:
Geddy Lee
Of salesmen!

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on July 26, 2006, 02:23:14 PM

You are the Sun.

You are the rain.

But you make this life a foolish game.
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Malaysian Chest Implosion Torture Specialist.

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Hoselrockets on July 26, 2006, 03:30:10 PM

Cover: m80
Core: Capstone core (NEW) asymetrical
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: J_L_B on July 26, 2006, 06:35:11 PM

Joe, do you know who came up with the name for this ball? Now when I try to sell this ball in my shop I'm going to have to explain what an Apogee is every 5 minutes....gee thanks Columbia

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on July 26, 2006, 10:13:50 PM

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It was answered in the above posts.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Offical "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio

"The Revolution has started. The sides were drawn, and if you didnt Choose the side ofEvolution you will fall to the power that it has."

and I said "PLEASE, I ONLY WANT TO GET ONE MORE BALL." he responded "THAT WAS WHAT 12 BALLS AGO." I said back "WELL, YA BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT."

"Freak Bowling Ball cleaner of the TRACK Revolution."

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It's a new core that nobody knows what it looks like.

It's a coverstock that nobody knows what it is.

The only thing I know is that it's assymetric.

How is that an answer to my inquiry?
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Malaysian Chest Implosion Torture Specialist.

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New Core yes, Yet I know what it looks like.
New coverstock (only if M80 is a new coverstock.)
Asymetrical yes, but I am not saying anything extra. It is up to joe if he wants to give you anymore specs. I will say this it is said that OOB it will fit between powerdrive normal and sanded.

Not trying to be mean just not trying to let out to much info.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Offical "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio

"The Revolution has started. The sides were drawn, and if you didnt Choose the side ofEvolution you will fall to the power that it has."

and I said "PLEASE, I ONLY WANT TO GET ONE MORE BALL." he responded "THAT WAS WHAT 12 BALLS AGO." I said back "WELL, YA BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT."

"Freak Bowling Ball cleaner of the TRACK Revolution."

Edited on 7/26/2006 10:10 PM

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: J_L_B on July 27, 2006, 12:53:37 AM

I don't get why it's a supposed to be a big secret what this ball is??

Why allow speculation amongst the crowd when you could be stirring up a positive vibe about the ball by letting everyone know what they can expect. Keeping everyone in the shadows leads to most everyone getting their hopes up and expecting too much.

It's kinda bad that I get my staff balls before Columbia even puts it up on the website. They should have it on the website a month ahead of time saying "COMING SOON!!!"  Instead the balls just show up and they have almost no pre-release excitement.

Sorry it just bugs me.....
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Jon Brandon
Columbia Regional Staff 04-06
2003 PBA West Region Rookie of the Year
"You don't score, until you score......"

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on July 27, 2006, 04:26:27 AM

I agree with you here, I would love to talk about this ball and its stats. I would also love to say what I think about it but it isnt my ball to tell about. I really wouldnt mind if there wasnt so many people on here able to read everything. Hey if I had it my way I would talk about all the new stuff coming out at all times. I would love to build the hype up for a ball. I will say this though, after what I have posted on the forums saying what I would like to see and why they havent made it yet. They did it, so if you know what I have said I would like to see come out of columbia then you might have an idea. Yet other then that if you want more info you might want to nicely ask joe. Once agian not trying to be mean.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Offical "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio

"The Revolution has started. The sides were drawn, and if you didnt Choose the side ofEvolution you will fall to the power that it has."

and I said "PLEASE, I ONLY WANT TO GET ONE MORE BALL." he responded "THAT WAS WHAT 12 BALLS AGO." I said back "WELL, YA BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT."

"Freak Bowling Ball cleaner of the TRACK Revolution."

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Hoselrockets on July 27, 2006, 08:30:43 AM

What secret are we keeping?  You know the cover and the core? The ball is going to launch in September?  What more do you want?  We've already have it in our new ball catalog so I don't understand?

The name came from our new marketing department and I guess they are doing a good job because everyone is already talking about it just because of the name and just wait until you see the reaction of the ball.

Jon we are working on a lot of things in San Antonio as everyone knows we have been making some changes.  We are working on getting the balls on the site before launching them.  You'll see some of those changes happen this year just please give us some time.  As you know we've been putting a lot of time into creating NEW products.

Thanks.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on July 27, 2006, 08:38:03 AM

I think its a cool name!  Don't change the name!  As long as they make the logo look like the Action and not the Hyjinx, it should be sharp and mysterious.
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Current Arsenal:
Geddy Lee
Of salesmen!

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Mark T. Trgovac on July 27, 2006, 12:47:05 PM

Thank you joe, I was waiting for you to say it was in this years ball catalog. I know alot of the guys on here are probly pulling a homer simpson with saying doe. Not to be mean guys but come on that was the easyest way to find out about it. When you read its core numbers you will be impressed, and you really be impressed by the intermediate-diff. I couldnt belive the number that it had, yet it was still placed in the line they put it.
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Mark "scoot" Trgovac
C-G Pro Shop
Offical "Spokesman"
Youngstown, Ohio

"The Revolution has started. The sides were drawn, and if you didnt Choose the side ofEvolution you will fall to the power that it has."

and I said "PLEASE, I ONLY WANT TO GET ONE MORE BALL." he responded "THAT WAS WHAT 12 BALLS AGO." I said back "WELL, YA BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT."

"Freak Bowling Ball cleaner of the TRACK Revolution."

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: J_L_B on July 27, 2006, 01:12:05 PM

We know the cover, M80 is great, no doubt about that. The core is new so we don't know anything about it but the name Capstone.

The truth is if it weren't for you Joe, there would be nothing but people guessing as to what this will be.

I know Columbia is sticking to its plan about making less balls which means there is less room for error in making sure it's a good one.

If the ball had some momentum and positive hype before it came out, it would sure help in sales.

I try to do my part by making videos and letting people know what they can expect. It would just be nice if they let the staffers and elite Pro Shops have some information a bit earlier so they can help build some buzz for a great new ball.
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Jon Brandon
Columbia Regional Staff 04-06
2003 PBA West Region Rookie of the Year
"You don't score, until you score......"

Title: Re: Apogee??
Post by: Hoselrockets on July 27, 2006, 09:14:28 PM

Jon all your work is greatly appreciated and we are working on exactly what you are talking about.  Like I mentioned before you will notice a good amount of changes.  I'm 100% with you on this one but sometimes it's just not that easy to do.  Thanks again for all you do.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920