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Title: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: strikecing on January 09, 2009, 12:16:41 PM
So im watching extra frames and Chris Barnes is throwing a U2 urthane (spelling) on the right lane which is the Cheetah pattern.  How crazy is that???
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: Hogsharley on January 09, 2009, 08:21:46 PM
Is he playing the twig? The right lane must be toast.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: strikecing on January 09, 2009, 08:22:28 PM
not sure what you mean by twig???
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: Kid Jete on January 09, 2009, 08:24:31 PM
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not sure what you mean by twig???
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: strikecing on January 09, 2009, 08:26:15 PM
thanx

No more like 12 at the arrow and 5 at the break point.  He is using the power swing on the shark pattern and the same line.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: strikecing on January 09, 2009, 08:55:41 PM
cant believe you guys arent all over this trying to get companies to stop making so many balls....
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: jkiser01 on January 10, 2009, 05:08:57 AM
Chris is a very smart player and am not surprised at all to see him using the old U2 on those conditions.. He made the show this week so kudos to him..
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: jkiser01 on January 10, 2009, 05:15:07 AM
I know late last summer when Barnes was practicing up in Denton, he had just had an old U2 plugged and redrilled and was using it that day.. I ask him about it then and he said that was the only one he had..

I bet this was the same ball.. I would imagine finding that ball NIB would in fact be a rare find!!

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Kind of crazy that they still had some blank U2s sitting around
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: supernoodle on January 10, 2009, 05:50:46 AM
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I  know late last summer when Barnes was practicing up in Denton, he had just had an old U2 plugged and redrilled and was using it that day.. I ask him about it then and he said that was the only one he had..

I bet this was the same ball.. I would imagine finding that ball NIB would in fact be a rare find!!


I thought Plugged balls were not allowed on the PBA tour?
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I would have got away with it if it was not for those pesky kids (Behind my lane) and those blasted 10 pins.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: jkiser01 on January 10, 2009, 07:26:45 AM
Using a plugged ball is fine. Here is the rule directly from my PBA rule book:

11.8 Plugged Equipment. Plugging material may be used in accordance with
current USBC specifications. No foreign matter may be placed within the plug area, and all equipment shall otherwise comply will PBA regulations


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I  know late last summer when Barnes was practicing up in Denton, he had just had an old U2 plugged and redrilled and was using it that day.. I ask him about it then and he said that was the only one he had..

I bet this was the same ball.. I would imagine finding that ball NIB would in fact be a rare find!!


I thought Plugged balls were not allowed on the PBA tour?
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I would have got away with it if it was not for those pesky kids (Behind my lane) and those blasted 10 pins.

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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: supernoodle on January 10, 2009, 07:48:00 AM
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Using a plugged ball is fine. Here is the rule directly from my PBA rule book:

11.8 Plugged Equipment. Plugging material may be used in accordance with
current USBC specifications. No foreign matter may be placed within the plug area, and all equipment shall otherwise comply will PBA regulations


Ah well it must have been updated,then again not hailing from the US or bowling on the PBA tour it was not something I would have come across.

So how rigorou are the PBA in checking equipment,especially plugged balls? I have a couple of books that mention about Plugged balls being plugged with all manner of substances,having dense materials underneath a layer of legitimate plugging material and the old "Soakers" used "Back in the day".

If they check such things a lot its a good job I will probably never bowl a tour event,as having got most of my equipment pre owned I would never get out of the bowl!
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I would have got away with it if it was not for those pesky kids (Behind my lane) and those blasted 10 pins.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: jkiser01 on January 10, 2009, 08:08:22 AM
I am sure everyone out there knows if they use a ball thats illegal, it could jeopordize their career and livelehood..

I don't see that being a problem with the exempt tour.. Regionals "might" be a different story.. But then again, I would hope integrity would keep all of the PBA members honest..

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Using a plugged ball is fine. Here is the rule directly from my PBA rule book:

11.8 Plugged Equipment. Plugging material may be used in accordance with
current USBC specifications. No foreign matter may be placed within the plug area, and all equipment shall otherwise comply will PBA regulations


Ah well it must have been updated,then again not hailing from the US or bowling on the PBA tour it was not something I would have come across.

So how rigorou are the PBA in checking equipment,especially plugged balls? I have a couple of books that mention about Plugged balls being plugged with all manner of substances,having dense materials underneath a layer of legitimate plugging material and the old "Soakers" used "Back in the day".

If they check such things a lot its a good job I will probably never bowl a tour event,as having got most of my equipment pre owned I would never get out of the bowl!
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I would have got away with it if it was not for those pesky kids (Behind my lane) and those blasted 10 pins.

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Edited on 1/10/2009 9:09 AM
Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: sdbowler on January 10, 2009, 08:12:58 AM
At one time I had heard that the plug had to be clear. I don't know if that is true or not.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: jkiser01 on January 10, 2009, 08:28:03 AM
that could be true, not 100% sure though..

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At one time I had heard that the plug had to be clear. I don't know if that is true or not.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: mmcfarland300 on January 10, 2009, 08:34:42 AM
sd, I also heard that it had to be clear don't know if that is still the case or not.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: batbowler on January 10, 2009, 08:50:43 AM
Here's from the PBA Rules:
11.8 Plugged Equipment. Plugging material may be used in accordance with
current USBC specifications. No foreign matter may be placed within the plug area,
and all equipment shall otherwise comply will PBA regulations.
Penalty for 1st Offense:
Intermediate - $500 and the ball must be immediately removed from play
Penalty for 2nd Offense in a Season:
PBA Code of Ethics Violation - Disqualification
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: strikezone_sanantonio on January 10, 2009, 06:54:38 PM
This was true years ago.

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At one time I had heard that the plug had to be clear. I don't know if that is true or not.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: missed messenger on January 10, 2009, 09:26:31 PM
Rules from the USBC also doesn't allow any subtance on the ball gut you still see pros and other bowlers banging their rosin bag over the holes then wipe it off.  Now even wiping the rosin off the ball is illgeal
Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: Mike L on January 13, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
Just curious since Barnes is under contract with Columbia, how does he get away with throwing a Viz-a-Ball?  I mean I know he has the contract with Pepsi too, but is there something stating he can throw that even though Columbia makes plastic?
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: KDawg77 on January 13, 2009, 09:19:22 AM
USBC rules do not apply in the PBA excpet for the Masters (I know) and US Open (I think).
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: tuckingfenpin on January 13, 2009, 09:19:55 AM
They probably worked his contract out to allow him to throw the Pepsi Viz-a-ball even though it wasn't manufactured from the company he throws.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: supernoodle on January 13, 2009, 09:30:50 AM
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Rules from the USBC also doesn't allow any subtance on the ball gut you still see pros and other bowlers banging their rosin bag over the holes then wipe it off.  Now even wiping the rosin off the ball is illgeal


Well here in the UK we are now not allowed to use any products which emit dust such as hand conditioners/grip sacks etc in the players/seating area,which as I am sure some of you are aware would be a right pain in the butt in bowling alleys that get hot or for bowlers like myself,who have trouble with their grip sometimes.

Also there is a rule in place whereby you cannot alter the surface of a ball once a tournament has started,even between blocks. Thats fine for those that can afford to bring lots of balls with varying surfaces to the tournament but what about those,such as myself,who cannot afford this luxury?

Makes you wonder sometimes if the people who run bowling know the first thing about bowling themselves!
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I would have got away with it if it was not for those pesky kids (Behind my lane) and those blasted 10 pins.
Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: jbuzz31 on January 13, 2009, 09:45:04 AM
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Just curious since Barnes is under contract with Columbia, how does he get away with throwing a Viz-a-Ball?  I mean I know he has the contract with Pepsi too, but is there something stating he can throw that even though Columbia makes plastic?
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its part of the pba advertising.  certain players i think are REQUIRED to throw branded vizaballs like the pepsi, CLR, or Lumber Liquidator balls.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: Stormkid84 on January 13, 2009, 09:59:51 AM
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Just curious since Barnes is under contract with Columbia, how does he get away with throwing a Viz-a-Ball?  I mean I know he has the contract with Pepsi too, but is there something stating he can throw that even though Columbia makes plastic?
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I actually own a Storm Viz-a-Ball. The ball is obviously made by Brunswick, due to Brunswick has the Viz-a-Ball process patented.   But, because it is a sponsor ball, they are allowed to throw it.  Although, if you are not sponsored by the company, you cannot throw that ball.  I know a bowler who bowled the US Open with a white sanded Viz-a-Ball cause he was not authorized to throw it.
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Title: Re: Chris Barnes throwing...............
Post by: Track900 on January 13, 2009, 11:16:17 AM
Wasnt that GL3 that had a Pepsi ball and they made him either sand the logo off or take it out of play??? Pretty crazy since you can purchase that ball at many different online stores. Guess the PBA can do what they want. Just like the shoe issue. Why is it allowed that people can wear Nike or New Balance tennis shoes as bowling shoes, but Linds cant be worn, because they didnt pay to be a licensed equipment. If they are going to stick to the rules there should be no grey area's PERIOD.