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Equipment Boards => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: scotts33 on December 25, 2006, 01:32:35 AM
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OK.......I know this has been covered ad infinitum BUT has Col. 300 worked out their problems with the EPX T-1? Are the ones being sold now good NO cracking problems and if one develops are their distributors standing behind them?
Thanks!
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Scott
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I'm not sure, so don't quote thia as the gospel, but from earlier posts on this subject, I was lead to believe that the EPX T-1's were completely discontinued and that anything out there for sale are just leftover stock from the run they made of them.
As far as I thought ( or heard ), no more would be made PERIOD, until they had worked out the problem they were having with them, and I have heard NOTHING about them making another run of them.
If it were me ( and it is because I also have an EPX T-1 ), I am going to assume that anything for sale now is from their original runs and that nothing has been resolved with them. Luckily I only use mine on rare occasions and have had no problems thus far.
Last I heard, Columbia was taking all actions necessary to replace damaged/cracking balls, but who know how long that will last?
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"TOO SOON THE POWER, TOO LATE THE WISDOM"
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Storm8300,
Seems like Col. 300 has shelved the epoxy/catalyst cover but I am only guessing. bowlingball.com says they have purchased all remaining EPX T-1 stock from Col. 300.
I guess the Action Attack maybe the heavy oil ball. Don't know anything about the Big Shot.
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Scott
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Thanks for the info. Storm8300. I'd like to find a ball for heavy that had the same reaction as my old Vis. Midnight Scorcher. The EPX T-1 seemed the closest. For medium-heavy, I use a LM/L Big Bang/P....very good ball probably the ball of the year for me.
I haven't used Col. 300 since Orange Pirahna still use a Col. 300 Blue Dot for spares. Just ordered a Jinx for dry.
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Scott
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Very condition specific ball. (Very Heavy Oil). You need to know when you are going to use it and when to put back in the bag. For me when the shot dries up (Just a little) this ball goes back in the bag and I replace it with my Full Throttle.
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You need the heavy juice for the ball to show its colors you will be able to play lines that no one else can on heavy oil with an EPX, If you buy one now the cover should be okay I am not making any gaurntees though. The early batches is where the problem was the later batches the problem was worked on and the cracking issue was not as large a problem
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Mainzerpower
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Great thread so far...
I'm in the market for a heavy ball in the price range the EPX is being sold for (christmas money is burning a hole in my pocket.)
What is your opinion of the EPX versus the Weapon of Mass Bias? Both are currently being offered around the same price.
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Learning and improving each week
Balls
Toxic
Vibe (blue)
Columbia Blue Dot
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i believe there is a new version of this ball, and if i remember correctly, it is now called the ricochet epx ti. a the ball is a diferent color then the first make.
we drilled several of them for customers. balls were bought online, but i can't remember what dot com they came from.
do know this, feedback on the new version was great.
not sure, but i think these were a special make up ball for some dist. or online dealer.
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jls31316
Edited on 12/27/2006 12:29 PM
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There is no new version of the Catalyst cover. Everything we had in inventory was sold.
If your looking for a stong ball for some oil I would recommend the Action Max this ball loves oil.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
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There is no new version of the Catalyst cover. Everything we had in inventory was sold.
If your looking for a stong ball for some oil I would recommend the Action Max this ball loves oil.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
Good to see you back and posting here Joe!
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There is no new version of the Catalyst cover. Everything we had in inventory was sold.
If your looking for a stong ball for some oil I would recommend the Action Max this ball loves oil.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
There's an overseas version call the Riccochet Rebound EPX-A1. Has the same core as the rebound with the catalyst cover. I have two of them.
Here's the link:
http://www.bowlingball.com/Bowling-Ball-4591/columbia-300-ricochet-a1-epx.html
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New computer. New office. New ID.
Yes, it be I, the Inverted 1.
Edited on 12/27/2006 12:56 PM
Edited on 12/27/2006 1:00 PM
THANKS>>> that's the puppy i was talking about. but i can't rememeber what dot com was selling them.
to me, this coverstock seemed different from the first one!!! and the color was a deeper shade of blue/grey.
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jls31316
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Thanks for the replies.
You all had me sold on the EPX and I was set to order one but bb.com dropped the price on the WMB to $49.99. At that price I couldn't resist.
I don't see heavy oil in my league but plan to enter my first local tournament next month. I feel I need to have a heavy oil ball in the bag but I didn't want to spend "new release price" for a ball that will see very limited use.
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Learning and improving each week
Balls
Toxic
Vibe (blue)
Columbia Blue Dot
Weapon of Mass Bias (waiting for delivery)
Edited on 12/27/2006 2:46 PM
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One of the proshop operators where I bowl was sent a test/comp ball and it was the new EPX ball that won't be out for a while. I don't have any specs, but it was a bit of a shock to the proshop owner to say the least.
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quote:
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There is no new version of the Catalyst cover. Everything we had in inventory was sold.
If your looking for a stong ball for some oil I would recommend the Action Max this ball loves oil.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
There's an overseas version call the Riccochet Rebound EPX-A1. Has the same core as the rebound with the catalyst cover. I have two of them.
Here's the link:
http://www.bowlingball.com/Bowling-Ball-4591/columbia-300-ricochet-a1-epx.html
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New computer. New office. New ID.
Yes, it be I, the Inverted 1.
Edited on 12/27/2006 12:56 PM
Edited on 12/27/2006 1:00 PM
Yes I'm sure that this is the overseas release but I only handle the domestic sales for the mid west, but I think that ball was made the same time the T1 was built.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
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quote:
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There is no new version of the Catalyst cover. Everything we had in inventory was sold.
If your looking for a stong ball for some oil I would recommend the Action Max this ball loves oil.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
Good to see you back and posting here Joe!
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Thanks I've been here just watching and not saying much.
Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
Edited on 12/27/2006 5:37 PM
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There is no new version of the Catalyst cover. Everything we had in inventory was sold.
If your looking for a stong ball for some oil I would recommend the Action Max this ball loves oil.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
There's an overseas version call the Riccochet Rebound EPX-A1. Has the same core as the rebound with the catalyst cover. I have two of them.
Here's the link:
http://www.bowlingball.com/Bowling-Ball-4591/columbia-300-ricochet-a1-epx.html
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New computer. New office. New ID.
Yes, it be I, the Inverted 1.
Edited on 12/27/2006 12:56 PM
Edited on 12/27/2006 1:00 PM
Yes I'm sure that this is the overseas release but I only handle the domestic sales for the mid west, but I think that ball was made the same time the T1 was built.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
YES, but like in the case of the track strike machine, these "so called" overseas releases made a left turn and ended up here!!!!!!!!!!!!
now i don't know if this ball is the "exact same ball" as the first epx. but having drilled both models, and getting feedback from bowlers throwing both models, there to me seems to be a slight difference.
and as in the case of the track strike machine, this second epx ball seems to be a great ball, and i am sure if pro shops had them, they would sell.
we were able to get some strike machine "overseas releases" and they sold well.
and the feedback on the ball was excellent. just yesterday a fellow who drilled up a ricochet epx, told me how much he liked the ball, and how well he was scoring with it.
i wish columbia would release some of these "overseas releases" here!!!!!!!!
cause that'a where they seem to end up.
and you say you handle the midwest area????
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jls31316
Edited on 12/28/2006 3:41 PM
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Jls the ball is not the same as the domestic release and with the power of the internet anything can happen with these balls as we have all seen.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
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Jls the ball is not the same as the domestic release and with the power of the internet anything can happen with these balls as we have all seen.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
JJ, what is different about them? The ball specs & core seem to be the same. Is the formulation for the coverstock different?
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Righty
Think about it!
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Sorry Righty you are correct they are the same balls, I was thinking about the AMF version of the catalyst cover. Sorry.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
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Sorry Righty you are correct they are the same balls, I was thinking about the AMF version of the catalyst cover. Sorry.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
No problem, I just thought the cover may be slightly different. I do like the darker color of the riccochet.
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Righty
Think about it!
It is impossible to govern rightly without God and the Bible. - George Washington
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Sorry Righty you are correct they are the same balls, I was thinking about the AMF version of the catalyst cover. Sorry.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
No problem, I just thought the cover may be slightly different. I do like the darker color of the riccochet.
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Righty
Think about it!
It is impossible to govern rightly without God and the Bible. - George Washington
I've seen a lot of T-1 that were also darker in color, then again I saw a lot of lighter colored one's too.
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Joe Jozwik
Midwest Account Manager
Columbia 300, Inc.
www.Columbia300.com
www.Trackbowling.com
1-800-531-5920
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I believe the core is different in the overseas one. They did a video review on the Japanese ABS site and they were drilled the same and had the same suface but the read the lane completely different.
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