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Equipment Boards => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: Cranking_Inferno on January 10, 2006, 05:55:57 PM

Title: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Cranking_Inferno on January 10, 2006, 05:55:57 PM
The EPX-T1 is the beginning of a revolution in heavy oil action and new shell technology. This jump is as important as the leap from urethane to reactive resin.

I recently rolled the EPX-T1 - The Super Carbide Bomb - and the Ultimate Inferno in a test simulation. I am a power Tweener, with above average speed.

Lane condition: Heavily flooded oil, 38ft pattern, out of bounds outside 5.
This lane condition is considered one of the hardest to get a ball to trully finish, when playing a 12 to 6 shot.

Results:
EPX-T1 - Set up well, finished hard, carried perfectly.
Super Carbide Bomb - Never set up, sailed through the 3 pin continualy
Ultimate Inferno - Never set up, sailed through the 3 pin continualy

Click this link top find out why:
http://www.columbia300.com/innovation/techdocs.cfm?id=21

The reason is that reactive resin and reactive resin particle both have a series of small holes that they use to create surface friction to grab the lane.

Since the EPX-T1 is not reactive resin it does not have millions of tiny holes, holes that trap oil in the ball, oil that is really hard to get out. The EPX-T1 is an Epoxy shell, the first of its kind. The surface has thousands of dents or valleys on the surface, but they are only visible with a very high powered microscope. These valleys are sometimes 50 times the size of a reactive resin hole, but they are not holes, just fisures used to grab the lane. These valley act like small suction cups, making the ball rough and very very grippy. They create the most friction to date, and make the ball hook in the heaviest of oils, without over-reacting.

The best part is that this new epoxy shell has a really cool feature.
To clean the shell and rejuvinate the ball, and to remove oil from the valleys, just fill a sink with scolding tap water, and set the ball in the water with the water line on your track (keep all the holes, above the water line. Use a cork in a weight hole if its to low) Wait 20 minutes, pull the ball out and wipe off the lane oil.

The ball is suddenly good as new. Maby people did not know this and thought the ball lost its hook. With this technology you can do this every 20 - 30 games and the ball will continue to roll like new for a very ong time.

It is simply a new technology, and you can't approach this ball as though its another reactive resin.
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: thfonz98 on January 11, 2006, 03:37:40 AM
if you can get through 20-30 games without it cracking.
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: tjj300 on January 11, 2006, 11:27:47 AM
Sounds a little like Ebonite's Acryllium(?)coverstock from the mid-90's.
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: ptommy on January 11, 2006, 01:44:05 PM
Everybody already knows that the epoxy epx-1 is a piece of over hyped garbage.1.Most of them crack 2.They work for less than 10 games and become oil logged. 3.They leave 5 pins an alarming amount of times.4. They skid too far on heavy oil and over hook on dry etc etc etc. A mistake by the makers.So spare us the BULL!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: DP3 on January 11, 2006, 02:11:30 PM
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A mistake by the makers.


....or is it?
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Ragnar on January 11, 2006, 02:17:08 PM
I hadn't realized until now that these forums had begun hosting advertising copy.
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Cranking_Inferno on January 11, 2006, 02:30:28 PM
Yes, every new shell ever launched, even the excalibur, the first reactive resin had its stumblings.... I am not telling you this to sell EPX's.... I TOTALLY though the SCB would outperform, but the EPX-T1 completly outpowered and out motored the Super Carbide Bomb in heavy oil.... and the SCB is Particle also..

Both balls were drilled the same ....  the new epoxy did have a shaky launch for a epoxy, but just wait and see.. they are not done with this new technology... not by a long shot.

They become filled with oil, but only on the surface .. since the valleys are not oil trapping black holes like on resin..

Do the hot water bath after 10 games and its good as new...

Its to bad u can't do this with reactive resin without ruining the shell..
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Aud300 on January 11, 2006, 02:56:27 PM
Not sure on that one . .I remeber the Ebonite Omega was not a very good ball.. Also Early particle ball had their problems also.. I still remember the Ebonite Tombstone.. Whew.. The Epx changes the way people look at ball motion. For myself and others who use this ball.. This ball blends out wet - dry conditions.Also, I noticed on this website and others,Most have tried to drill this ball with a weak layout and/or use polish on a ball with a new cover meant for heavy oil patterns. How many of the ya'll can tell me when your ball is burning up ( Losing Energy ) or is it under - performing?  I have 50 games on my and I am not a rep or something but With one cleaning, the ball returned to the original hook potential. I have seen how this ball can blow a hole in any lane pattern.. Just my .02 cents
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Gene J Kanak on January 11, 2006, 04:22:25 PM
I haven't seen many of them thrown, but I've liked what I have seen. On the telecast for the Masters, the ball looked great to me. Sure, it wasn't a crowd pleaser that hooked coast to coast and sent messengers every which way, but it was smooth, controllable and pretty hard hitting. I think it's the epitome of a control ball.

When I was at the Bowlersparadise.com Classic in Hammond, I heard the Columbia guy talking about it. He said that Barnes actually throws it quite a bit during the earlier rounds of events. Malott and the other guys have tended to shy away from it because they like to hook the lane a bit more. He also said that the cracking stories are overblown. He said that, overall, there has been no higher incidence of cracking with the EPX than with any other release. He just said that when they do crack, they've tended to crack out much more dramatically than other balls. Now, of course, I have no idea about the validity of these statements, and I understand that it's a C300 guy, but still.  

Anyhow, my driller has an EPX that he doesn't like. When I went in to practice today, I decided to give his a try. The shot was a leftover house shot that was medium to medium-light. Personally, I really liked what I saw. The ball was smooth, predictable and very hard hitting. I was able to play up the boards and circle the lane with equally good results. Though, overall, I still think it will play best going straight. I think it's a very nice ball. I would love to have one in the bag for tough to read tournament shots. Personally, I would love to have one.

Maybe that's the trouble. Maybe C300 made a mistake in the way they marketed this ball. Maybe they should've marketed it as a control ball. Then again, I can see why they wouldn't. Most bowlers aren't going to pay a premium price for a control ball. Still, I think this ball has a lot of potential value. Maybe I'd change my mind if I used it long-term, but, from the little bit that I've seen, I think the ball can be a real winner.
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: baltimora on January 11, 2006, 07:55:01 PM
i love mine with some caveats. it is the poster boy for condition specific. it needs a ton of oil in the heads and a dry back end. i know you can say this of all heavy oil balls, but stuff like my ts&a are more versatile and can take manipulations of hand release and such to tailor to conditions. having said that when i actually encounter clean back ends (something rare where i bowl) this ball really does hit like a truck.
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: baltimora on January 11, 2006, 08:06:45 PM
p.s. i clean mine with isopropyl alcohol. i never bought into the baking or the water submersion techniques. (just my opinion unscientific as it may be)
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: MI 2 AZ on January 11, 2006, 10:30:40 PM
baltimora, try cleaning the ball with hot tap water in a bucket.  It does not behave like a reactive ball does in hot water.  Have you noticed what happens to the ball if you press your hand on top of the ball for two minutes or so?
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Cranking_Inferno on January 11, 2006, 10:54:36 PM
Bowled again tonight on my usual wednesday night 40 foot heavy flood pattern... again super carbide bomb couldn't even make it through practice.....

I rolled 225 258 279 with the EPX-T1 in extreme oil..

Everyone around me was trying to play my line but they couldn't.. there balls kept sailing in the oil all night.

I laughed all night as I rolled my 762 scratch....

The point I am making is this... I wanted so bad to believe the SCB was the best in heavy oil.... but it could not set up or finish and carry like the EXP-T1 Epoxy shell.... I am totally amazed... and I have been bowling 24 years and have never seen this type of ball rection ever in such extreme oil.

The ball seems to react even better after a few Hot Oil Baths. The fact that I can actually extract the oil from this ball with ease with a simple 15 minute hot water bath, and keep on rolling is utterly amazing... no matter what other epoxy columbia300 puts out.. . I will buy it.. no questions asked..

I am not putting Lane#1 down by any means.... the fact I am making is that technology is catching up.. and the epoxy may be the best shell for heavy oil ever made.

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EPX-T1 - Heavy flood - long oil
Super Carbide Bomb - Heavy oil - short oil
Ultimate Inferno - Heavy to medium
Original Inferno - Medium
H2O - Medium to Dry
XXXL - Dry to scortch - spare ball
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on January 11, 2006, 11:03:50 PM
I have not thrown one, but I have sold a few.

The only problem with the EPX-T1 is that they got this great new coverstock, yet they wrap it around an older......and compared to alot of stuff of today, relatively weaker.......core. They should have used a stronger core...or at the very least put something inside of the ball that could help the coverstock out some.

With that said....I have not seen it perform poorly. The fellas I have drilled them for tend to use them on the type of condition that it was meant for, and it shines.


-Carl
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on January 11, 2006, 11:47:08 PM
No word at all. The Track Epoxy will not be until August, that much I do know.
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Cranking_Inferno on January 12, 2006, 12:42:16 AM
It is drilled 12 o,clock leverage.  A resonably early rolling strong drill.
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Cranking_Inferno on January 12, 2006, 02:07:22 AM
reason the ball uses a weaker core is so that the agreesive shell and this core complement each other, so that they dont over react.... and its a purfect blend..
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Aud300 on January 12, 2006, 03:28:00 AM
before the c300 guys get on here .. the core matches the cover ... it's not like any other C300 ball which doesn't use old cores and new covers.. I have mine drillled 3 and 3/8 by 3 3/8 .. theat's stacked leverage boys with no cover stock change and I know it's 7 more boards than any dyno ball I have.
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on January 12, 2006, 12:51:55 PM
I understand the weaker core....stronger cover perfect combo....but why recycle the core? use something different. That core has been in ALOT of bowling balls.

I think the EPX-T1 is a great ball....but they can do better. Have you thought maybe they didn't want to release the mercedez first.....it is down the road I am sure.

Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: J_L_B on January 13, 2006, 02:31:00 AM
I was lucky enough to talk with Carmen Salvino, the patent owner and coverstock designer of the EPX this week at the Dick Weber Open in So Cal and he explained to me how the polymers in epoxy bind together differently that regular reactives.

Epoxy by nature is a very strong material used in aerospace design for many years. The bonds that hold epoxy together at the molecular level are more tightly knit than that of the reactives, thus not allowing oil to remain trapped within around those molecules. This explains why oil is so easily removed from this ball.

I hope this helps a bit. I use my EPX still on wet/dry and it has worked well for me on my regular league house shot.
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: tonloc300x0 on January 13, 2006, 09:19:18 AM
Right now I am currently testing the new epoxy ball.  I must say this one is pretty awesome.  The hitting power is better than any ball I have seen.  It also hooks sooner than the first EPX with tons of backend.

I also have the first EPX and this ball just seems to get better the more I soak the ball in hot water.
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In the bag

Messenger Ti Low RG
Epx T1
Fear
Red Pulse x2
Action polished up
Powerdrive dulled up
U-Turn
U-Turn Particle
Bully
Ricochet Rebound
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Strider on January 13, 2006, 06:19:45 PM
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It also hooks sooner than the first EPX with tons of backend.


Hooks earlier than in your backswing, and still has backend?  
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Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: tonloc300x0 on January 14, 2006, 05:21:15 AM
This baby gots back


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It also hooks sooner than the first EPX with tons of backend.


Hooks earlier than in your backswing, and still has backend?  
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In the bag

Messenger Ti Low RG
Epx T1
Fear
Red Pulse x2
Action polished up
Powerdrive dulled up
U-Turn
U-Turn Particle
Bully
Ricochet Rebound
Title: Re: EPX-T1 ... New Epoxy pushes the limits ...
Post by: Aud300 on January 14, 2006, 09:59:15 AM
ah Geez! Whatca gonna do with all that back, All that back with your swing ..
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