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Equipment Boards => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: justinmill14 on June 22, 2009, 09:07:08 AM

Title: full swing vs. Roto grip Rogue cell
Post by: justinmill14 on June 22, 2009, 09:07:08 AM
Which do you think is the better ball? which one is stronger? My friend has a momentum swing and a loud noize and is thinking about getting one of these two so was wondering what everyone thinks?
Title: Re: full swing vs. Roto grip Rogue cell
Post by: Jay on June 22, 2009, 06:02:55 PM
The Full Swing would make more sense seeing as he has two Columbia balls already.  To be honest I think the two balls in question are fairly similar.

Edited on 6/22/2009 6:03 PM
Title: Re: full swing vs. Roto grip Rogue cell
Post by: the other c300 barnes on June 22, 2009, 07:40:02 PM
the Full Swing has more backend, and is a little cleaner down the lane making it a more versatile ball.
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Title: Re: full swing vs. Roto grip Rogue cell
Post by: kcbruns300 on June 29, 2009, 12:50:42 AM
I have been throwing a Rogue here at home and got a chance to throw the Full Swing at Bowl Expo.  To me, the core of the Full Swing matched with the Full Tilt cover made it clear the front a little bit better and gave it more of a flip on the back end than what I saw from the Rogue.  The Rogue starts up slightly sooner and is stronger in the midlane than the Full Swing.  Both, in my opinion are good balls and it'll depend on what conditions you bowl, to determine which will match up better.  I personally would feel that the Rogue would be more controllable, but I also like a smoother reaction with control, a lot of bowlers don't necessarily care for that reaction.
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Title: Re: full swing vs. Roto grip Rogue cell
Post by: SVstar34 on June 29, 2009, 12:58:49 AM
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I have been throwing a Rogue here at home and got a chance to throw the Full Swing at Bowl Expo.  To me, the core of the Full Swing matched with the Full Tilt cover made it clear the front a little bit better and gave it more of a flip on the back end than what I saw from the Rogue.  The Rogue starts up slightly sooner and is stronger in the midlane than the Full Swing.  Both, in my opinion are good balls and it'll depend on what conditions you bowl, to determine which will match up better.  I personally would feel that the Rogue would be more controllable, but I also like a smoother reaction with control, a lot of bowlers don't necessarily care for that reaction.
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I love my Rogue, and the reaction i get... Smooth and strong off the spot, easy to read what it's going to do. Haven't thrown the Full Swing or seen one, so i cant comment on it. But you wont be disappointed if you get a Rogue.
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Title: Re: full swing vs. Roto grip Rogue cell
Post by: the other c300 barnes on June 29, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
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I have been throwing a Rogue here at home and got a chance to throw the Full Swing at Bowl Expo.  To me, the core of the Full Swing matched with the Full Tilt cover made it clear the front a little bit better and gave it more of a flip on the back end than what I saw from the Rogue.  The Rogue starts up slightly sooner and is stronger in the midlane than the Full Swing.  Both, in my opinion are good balls and it'll depend on what conditions you bowl, to determine which will match up better.  I personally would feel that the Rogue would be more controllable, but I also like a smoother reaction with control, a lot of bowlers don't necessarily care for that reaction.


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You are exactly right but remember the surface prep on the Rogue makes it earlier, the two balls are close but the Full Swing is a little cleaner and a little more on the back but not to the point of being uncontrollable. This is a a great oil ball WITH backend reaction and not having to sacrafice one for the other is rarely seen.

PAP 4 OVER BY 5/8 UP
REV RATE 350 - 380
BALL SPEED 16 - 19 MPH
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Bowl Depot - Fayetteville Ga
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Edited on 6/29/2009 5:40 PM
Title: Re: full swing vs. Roto grip Rogue cell
Post by: clt2244 on June 29, 2009, 06:51:33 PM
Sounds like both are very close, i love my Rogue Cell and ive seen the Full Swing thrown, Roto's stuff seems to take great to surface change, i would say that if both drilled the same, you might change the Rogue to a true 4k finish to get it VERY close to the full swing, both good stuff and cant go wrong with ether one
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