Post by: AkA 99 Problems on December 03, 2007, 02:56:35 AM
Post by: tdub36tjt on December 03, 2007, 11:01:28 AM
Post by: NicholasE on December 03, 2007, 11:12:37 AM
Post by: chrisleftwich on December 03, 2007, 11:24:11 AM
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Post by: strikingresults-atl on December 03, 2007, 11:33:23 AM
Cleaning after every set is a very good practice, but thats only have of the battle.You will want to try an oil extraction method.I would try hook again or a hot water bath, or the revivor.These methods will restore your hook.The Gamebreaker is an awesome ball dont give up on it.All the balls on the market are high maintence a need to be cleaned on a regular basis and need to have the oil removed.I would suggest having the oil removed every 50 games.
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Post by: jls on December 03, 2007, 04:46:30 PM
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The Gamebreaker ain't a Columbia ball...but as you posted this in the Columbia section, I feel justified in recommending that you buy a Columbia ball. It won't die on you.
columbia, track, hammer, ebonite, why we are all just one happy family.
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jls, proud watcher of womens golf
Post by: mainzer on December 03, 2007, 05:03:58 PM
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The Gamebreaker ain't a Columbia ball...but as you posted this in the Columbia section, I feel justified in recommending that you buy a Columbia ball. It won't die on you.
columbia, track, hammer, ebonite, why we are all just one happy family.
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jls, proud watcher of womens golf
Still using different cover formulas though different R&D depts.
Try a Awesome Revs or Seek and Destroy from MoRich it will be a better choice than a GameBreaker and will last longer
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Mainzerpower
Post by: charlest on December 03, 2007, 05:08:57 PM
You most definitely do not need to have a pro shop clean your ballafter every use session. Just use a good bowling ball specific cleaner on it before putting it back in the bag.
Even if they cleaned it correctly, a dull ball will absorb enough oil after 100 games to require some sort of treatment: either the Revivor/Rejuvenator oven or the Ebonite Hook AGain process/procedure. Do that first.
Then buy some cleaner and clean it yourself after each session.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on December 03, 2007, 05:14:51 PM
Most are NEVER cleaned.
I look for a dry spot on every alley.
If I can't find one(hasn't happened) they don't hook.
REgards,
Luckylefty
PS...often a 3 board move with the feet to the outside from where you are and all of a sudden a ball magically hooks!
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Post by: C-G ProShop-Carl on December 03, 2007, 10:13:41 PM
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Still using different cover formulas though different R&D depts.
Not true. The same R&D departments design all of the companies with different ideas and reactions in mind.
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Youngstown Ohio (West Side Lanes)
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Boardman Ohio (Camelot Lanes)
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Post by: jls on December 04, 2007, 09:40:46 AM
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Still using different cover formulas though different R&D depts.
Not true. The same R&D departments design all of the companies with different ideas and reactions in mind.
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Carl Hurd
C-G Pro Shop (owner/operator)
with locations in:
Youngstown Ohio (West Side Lanes)
and
Boardman Ohio (Camelot Lanes)
Track Intl- Tech Support
The Legion Lives @ www.trackbowling.com
Tag Team Member #1
TAG TEAM COACHING!!!!!!/Co-Founder
thankyou Carl, i knew that, but sometimes, it's to hard to explain, so why bother. let them think what they want.
columbia, track, hammer, ebonite, we are all just one happy family!!!
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jls, proud watcher of womens golf
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Post by: Fatboy8 on December 04, 2007, 09:44:18 AM
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Post by: shelley on December 04, 2007, 09:47:48 AM
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Still using different cover formulas though different R&D depts.
Different or same R&D departments, I would not count on Columbia or Track equipment having significantly different lifespans than the current Ebonite and Hammer equipment. Whatever the Columbia or Track longevity reputation was before the buyout, you gotta go with Ebonite's reputation, whatever it is, now.
You want long-lasting? Lanemasters, Visionary, 900 Global. Replacing a Gamebreaker, I'd go with something like a solid Ogre.
SH
Post by: scotts33 on December 04, 2007, 09:49:54 AM
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the longest lasting balls on the market is Legends/Lanemasters, and this is proven as there coverstocks are a lot thicker than the rest.
Thicker than Visionary? How about the new LM/L balls that aren't thicker shelled?
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Post by: revTrex on December 04, 2007, 11:33:12 AM
Post by: I Hate Bowling on December 04, 2007, 01:01:06 PM
Post by: backupball on December 04, 2007, 01:04:10 PM
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Every brand of ball I have still hooks!
Most are NEVER cleaned.
I look for a dry spot on every alley.
If I can't find one(hasn't happened) they don't hook.
REgards,
Luckylefty
Of course your ball finds a dry spot, there ALWAYS is one on the left side!
Post by: mainzer on December 04, 2007, 01:23:45 PM
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I've had my Action Attack for 1.5 years now, bowl three leagues/week during summer and two leagues/week the rest of the year and have not lost any reaction on this ball at all. I clean it after every use (rubbing alcohol) and give it a run through the dishwasher (no soap) every month or so. I've also bowled with guys that have had the old M80 coverstock balls (Bully line) and action packed for over two years and they still hook just fine. It's unfortunate that a good company went out of business because they made a quality product.
Hit the nail on the head. Why did Columbia go down with equipment that lasted when Ebonite one line was cracking and dying?
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Mainzerpower
Post by: LuckyLefty on December 04, 2007, 04:40:02 PM
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Open the door...see what's possible...and just walk right on through...that's how easy success feels..
Post by: T-GOD on December 05, 2007, 08:48:48 AM
Post by: T-GOD on December 05, 2007, 12:12:46 PM
Thick covers, especially Legends/LaneMaster only limits you as to how dense you can make the core. This means you can't get low RG balls as well as the lighter weight balls being less dynamic than the 16lb. version.
The only bad thing with a thin cover is if the cover was prone to cracking, which I haven't been aware of any problems with this company. =:^D
Post by: Steven on December 05, 2007, 01:00:17 PM
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Post by: shelley on December 05, 2007, 01:05:01 PM
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Thick covers, especially Legends/LaneMaster only limits you as to how dense you can make the core. This means you can't get low RG balls as well as the lighter weight balls being less dynamic than the 16lb. version.
If they put some of the Lanemasters covers on low-RG balls, they'd roll out at your feet. They use some seriously strong covers on many of their balls.
SH
Post by: T-GOD on December 05, 2007, 01:11:39 PM
Post by: Steven on December 05, 2007, 02:01:48 PM
There is this general perception that since Ebonite shells are thin and short lived, then any balls with thin shells are doomed to be short lived. Somehow I think there is more to it than that.....
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"Sometimes, the best move is the one we don't make"
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