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Equipment Boards => Columbia 300 => Topic started by: channel surfer on July 27, 2003, 12:01:11 AM

Title: Messenger ti traction
Post by: channel surfer on July 27, 2003, 12:01:11 AM
Does anyone know anything about the new Messenger Ti Traction coming in september and what lane conditions its made for??

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Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: DP3 on July 27, 2003, 05:55:34 PM
It's the TEC Messenger replacement basically.  Particle Shell, Ti-Core for heavier oil.
Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: channel surfer on July 27, 2003, 06:00:24 PM
So its a heavy oil ball??
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Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: DP3 on July 27, 2003, 06:59:18 PM
Not really, it'll be for heavier concentrations or what most call medium/heavy, basically the most hook in the messenger line but less hook than the Wow, Icon 300, or Throttle.
Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: 230-n-up-or-bust on July 27, 2003, 07:30:05 PM
Looks, and sounds, an awful lot like a Total Chaos.
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Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: mrteach3 on July 28, 2003, 12:31:08 PM
I just saw one at a trade show on Thursday.  It is not particle, but enhanced SuperFlex.  It is supposed to be the hookingest(nice word) of the Messengers.
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Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: TheDude on July 28, 2003, 01:12:09 PM
Hooks more than the Hyde??(also has superflex?) Looks like over lap in reaction.
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Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: charlest on July 28, 2003, 01:36:48 PM
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Hooks more than the Hyde??(also has superflex?) Looks like over lap in reaction.
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Well, it might cover the same oil amount but it would probably have a different ball path, IF it keeps the Messenger Ti core, which is more flippy than the Hyde's core. It is a version of Columbia's force-a-ball-to-arc type of core; it seems to make a ball very even reacting. So the Hyde in box form is more likely to look like an old fashioned curve (mellow arc) while the new ball is more likely to have some length and then more defined hard arc than the Hyde, with the same drilling, on the same oil.

All the new balls with the enhanced SuperFlex are more snappy and strong (except for the Wicked B/R/T which comes more compounded, like the Hyde).

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Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: channel surfer on July 28, 2003, 10:07:49 PM
bumpedy bump
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Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: channel surfer on July 30, 2003, 03:32:13 PM
The Messenger Traction has a reactive shell ( Superflex family ) with the same proven core used
in the previous Messenger Ti series. The RG is 2.509 and the differential is
0.050. It comes with a 1200 Grit finish so it has an earlier breakpoint than
previous Messenger Ti's and is smoother at that breakpoint.

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Title: Re: Messenger ti traction
Post by: B-Mac on August 01, 2003, 01:22:14 PM
i will talk to my ball driller who happens to be on columbia pro staff and she what he thinks....
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